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Baitball Blogger

(49,847 posts)
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 01:28 PM Apr 9

Someone got tipped off on Donald Trumps 90 day pause on tariffs.

We were watching CNBC and the stock market was down at noon, and an hour later it shot up 1200(?) points. Then, fifteen minutes later, he posted on Truth Social.

This is so corrupt. Find those people who got tipped off!

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Someone got tipped off on Donald Trumps 90 day pause on tariffs. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Apr 9 OP
Clear manipulation. dalton99a Apr 9 #1
It was the homegirl Apr 9 #47
Trump used the office of the presidency azureblue Apr 9 #73
A responsible president would make such an announcement after the market closed. unblock Apr 9 #2
No, he only puts tariffs on after the market closes. pat_k Apr 9 #21
Not everyone can trade after hours. mobeau69 Apr 9 #23
just use an ECN Celerity Apr 9 #72
At this point, the stock market is totally corrupt. Girard442 Apr 9 #3
Which is why I am glad my retirement account Prof. Toru Tanaka Apr 9 #50
Oh I'm sure Pam Bondi will get right on it. surfered Apr 9 #4
And have OP disappeared for suggesting it durablend Apr 9 #32
Anyone else in this position and the SEC would launch and investigation Bengus81 Apr 9 #44
Thanks to the SCROTUS mdbl Apr 9 #75
Are you sure on that timing? muriel_volestrangler Apr 9 #5
I was watching CNBC. And the stock hike came first. They looked around social media and a considerable Baitball Blogger Apr 9 #6
That's different. CNBC hadn't been monitoring Trump's blurtings, clearly. muriel_volestrangler Apr 9 #8
The initial jump was due to the robust Treasury 10 year note auction. The big jump was after the social post. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 9 #14
some ticker feeds are on a 15 minute delay. justsomeguy01 Apr 9 #37
LOL...they didn't buy today,they bought yesterday. Bengus81 Apr 9 #46
I was looking at a graph of the day, not a ticker feed muriel_volestrangler Apr 9 #58
Doesn't matter,his "buds" were told to buy big time yesterday at bargain prices Bengus81 Apr 9 #45
Even knowing its corrupt hard working Americans still invest when there are other alternatives. nt in2herbs Apr 9 #7
Pumpjack Economics MayReasonRule Apr 9 #9
Martha Stewart should be on EVERY NEWS CHANNEL with this information. She went to jail for this BComplex Apr 9 #10
She was made an example of, in place of Mme. Defarge Apr 9 #36
Not to be dismissive of your point, but, markodochartaigh Apr 9 #52
That 1200 points was the criminal president's buy. GoodRaisin Apr 9 #11
No. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 9 #13
1) No. That's not what happened. 2) The Dow is not the market Bernardo de La Paz Apr 9 #12
Cons are either corrupted or cowardly. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 9 #15
I wrote that he would do this a couple of days ago kimbutgar Apr 9 #16
Anyone.. littlemissmartypants Apr 9 #40
Will Bondi prosecute? maspaha Apr 9 #17
The SEC would investigate if they haven't been corrupted yet. mobeau69 Apr 9 #22
Musk and DOGE is trying to shut them down Diraven Apr 9 #51
Of course. mobeau69 Apr 9 #65
I think more than one person got a tip off. Bev54 Apr 9 #18
I just dropped my contribution Hornedfrog2000 Apr 9 #19
Very likely your plan has a safe option NoRethugFriends Apr 9 #34
I think i can do better on my own. Hornedfrog2000 Apr 9 #56
And you lose the tax advantage you know, right? NoRethugFriends Apr 9 #61
Yes, very well aware. Hornedfrog2000 Apr 9 #63
Do you have a TSP? stollen Apr 9 #62
Blatant market manipulation WSHazel Apr 9 #20
He posted it on social media Tanuki Apr 9 #24
It leaked yesterday splano Apr 9 #25
Nope. I bet you can't find and post a credible tweet (i.e. not thin air speculation or direct statements fr principals) Bernardo de La Paz Apr 9 #39
I read somewhere that that "announcement" birdographer Apr 9 #26
Yeah, like "his" justice department is going to worry their beautiful minds about that! nt Maru Kitteh Apr 9 #27
Trump's just fuckin' with everybody. Threatens to hit you ten times with a belt and then expects you to like only twodogsbarking Apr 9 #28
If Biden had tweeted 10% tariffs on 90 nations and 104% on China, the markets would have collapsed and the media would Doodley Apr 9 #29
10 % blanket tariffs are estimated to cause something like 0.2 or 0.3 hit on GDP. That's not considering China. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 9 #41
Yup, great thread on Bluesky with allllll the evidence Arazi Apr 9 #30
Find those people? Then what? SayItLoud Apr 9 #31
The entire "it's a great time to buy. DJT" bit is blatantly corrupt. Renew Deal Apr 9 #33
Come on, people. All this means is trump blinked because his tariff moves were... brush Apr 9 #35
Doesn't mean committing a crime in the process should not be looked at. Bengus81 Apr 9 #49
Agreed he's a career criminal. He maybe getting a cut from some close to him... brush Apr 9 #54
I strongly suspect that Pissolini does nothing Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 9 #64
Well we do have a convicted felon running the country. Emile Apr 9 #38
And thanks to SCOTUS he has "presidential immunity" FakeNoose Apr 9 #43
Thom Hartmann noticed MTG was a big spender, too. Deuxcents Apr 9 #42
those old boys always get tipped off Warpy Apr 9 #48
It feels like Trump was sidelined before he destroyed everything. Turbineguy Apr 9 #53
Jail time D_Master81 Apr 9 #55
I have come to the conclusion the tariff bs is just to manipulte the markets. The doc03 Apr 9 #57
It happened faster than I thought it would. patphil Apr 9 #59
transition poozwah Apr 9 #60
Someone got 'lucky' Dave Id Apr 9 #66
They have gone back to the robber baron ethics of the 19th century. Marcuse Apr 9 #67
Trump seen his opportunities all right! Frasier Balzov Apr 9 #80
Tell me about it. bucolic_frolic Apr 9 #68
They could start with the execs of the tech companies... kentuck Apr 9 #69
I'm sure the SEC will conduct an investigation... Buttoneer Apr 9 #70
Are they still around? Baitball Blogger Apr 9 #74
Trump and his CABAL DENVERPOPS Apr 9 #84
They need to start with Trump's friends and family Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 9 #71
Very good video on trade and tariffs in committee. Blue Full Moon Apr 9 #76
That's a great video! Baitball Blogger Apr 9 #78
market manipulation evilhime Apr 9 #77
What an easy way to reward a donor. Baitball Blogger Apr 9 #79
A donor isn't the entire market iemanja Apr 10 #89
This is only the fourth time they, the Trump cabal, have cashed in the tariff-stock market. Jit423 Apr 9 #81
they don't even try to hide it. I mean, why make it so obvious? ecstatic Apr 9 #82
Trump and Repubs DENVERPOPS Apr 9 #83
Keep good records of this AdamGG Apr 9 #85
It looks like both Schiff and Warren are going to do an investigation. Baitball Blogger Apr 9 #86
They won't get the votes for subpoenas. Marcuse Apr 10 #87
Someone may have iemanja Apr 10 #88
It would be shocking if Trump and people around him AdamGG Apr 10 #90
That's a separate point iemanja Apr 10 #92
We need congressional hearings &anyone who used inside information should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 10 #91
Someone? Happy Hoosier Apr 10 #93
He'll rig anything, enrich anyone. No consequences for anyone. Who would investigate or prosecute? Scalded Nun Apr 10 #94

homegirl

(1,705 posts)
47. It was the
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:00 PM
Apr 9

Billionaire Boys Club and the stock market leadership, Trump was taken tot he back room and beaten into submission! Next step, the politicians will impeach and remove him!


azureblue

(2,403 posts)
73. Trump used the office of the presidency
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 08:00 PM
Apr 9

to manipulate the stock market. Isn't that kind of illegal?

unblock

(55,017 posts)
2. A responsible president would make such an announcement after the market closed.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 01:30 PM
Apr 9

But this is the president we have, sadly

Celerity

(49,429 posts)
72. just use an ECN
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 07:58 PM
Apr 9

Electronic Communication Network

https://lightspeed.com/active-trading-blog/what-is-an-electronic-communication-network-ecn

snip

An ECN is a computerized trading system that matches buy and sell orders for securities. ECNs allow traders to trade directly with each other, without the need for a middleman such as a broker or market maker. ECNs operate in a decentralized manner, meaning that there is no central exchange or trading floor.

Key features of ECNs include anonymity, transparency, and automatic order matching. Traders can enter orders into the ECN, which are matched with orders from other participants based on price and quantity. Once a trade is executed, the ECN automatically updates the order book and reports the trade to the relevant regulatory authorities.


Participants in the ECN:

ECNs have a wide range of participants, including retail investors, institutional investors, brokers, and market makers. Retail investors use ECNs to access a wider range of securities and to trade at lower costs than traditional brokers. Institutional investors use ECNs for their speed and efficiency, as well as their ability to execute large trades.

Brokers and market makers also use ECNs to execute trades on behalf of their clients. Market makers provide liquidity to the ECN by posting buy and sell orders for securities. In return, they receive a small fee for each trade they execute.

snip

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,566 posts)
50. Which is why I am glad my retirement account
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:13 PM
Apr 9

has 0% in stocks. Fucking bunch of crooks playing Russian roulette with people’s retirement funds.

Bengus81

(8,702 posts)
44. Anyone else in this position and the SEC would launch and investigation
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 03:55 PM
Apr 9

for out and out stock manipulation and insider trading. Proving once again it's over,Democracy died the day that POS took office.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,477 posts)
5. Are you sure on that timing?
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 01:41 PM
Apr 9

The Orange Rapist's pseudo-tweet is timestamped at 1:18pm; the chart for the S&P 500 I see shows the rise starting between 1:15 (5040.86) and 1:20 (5143.92).

on edit: more precisely, 1:18: 5011.62, 1:19: 5142.75.

Baitball Blogger

(49,847 posts)
6. I was watching CNBC. And the stock hike came first. They looked around social media and a considerable
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 01:54 PM
Apr 9

amount of minutes later came up the truth social quote. That's what I observed.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,477 posts)
8. That's different. CNBC hadn't been monitoring Trump's blurtings, clearly.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 02:21 PM
Apr 9

But the timings I can find are as above.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,814 posts)
14. The initial jump was due to the robust Treasury 10 year note auction. The big jump was after the social post. . nt
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 02:33 PM
Apr 9

Bengus81

(8,702 posts)
45. Doesn't matter,his "buds" were told to buy big time yesterday at bargain prices
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 03:57 PM
Apr 9

Doesn't matter when he announced today,they just knew he was going to announce. Look at Tesla,up almost $50 over this blatant manipulation.

BComplex

(9,383 posts)
10. Martha Stewart should be on EVERY NEWS CHANNEL with this information. She went to jail for this
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 02:24 PM
Apr 9

very same thing. Trump is a fucking criminal, and the republicans DON'T CARE!!!! They're profiting off of it.

markodochartaigh

(2,688 posts)
52. Not to be dismissive of your point, but,
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:19 PM
Apr 9

these are very complicated situations in which prosecutors and judges must take into account many subtle and complicated details far too obscure and convoluted for persons uneducated in the finer complexities of the law. Oh, and she is a Democrat.

GoodRaisin

(10,117 posts)
11. That 1200 points was the criminal president's buy.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 02:27 PM
Apr 9

Him and his cronies.

Then they come out with their baloney about 75 phantom countries.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,814 posts)
12. 1) No. That's not what happened. 2) The Dow is not the market
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 02:27 PM
Apr 9

What happened was that there was a good Treasury 10 year Note auction. That was the initial bump.

Bev54

(12,389 posts)
18. I think more than one person got a tip off.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 02:41 PM
Apr 9

The markets should have opened way down again today, especially with world sell off of US bonds but it didn’t which says to me somebodies were buying big knowing this was coming.

Hornedfrog2000

(120 posts)
19. I just dropped my contribution
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 02:45 PM
Apr 9

To 0% from my checks. I am seriously considering other avenues to save for retirement. I cant have some idiot having so much control over my finances.

Hornedfrog2000

(120 posts)
63. Yes, very well aware.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:58 PM
Apr 9

I need things more liquid at this point. He is making people lose faith in the market. I doubt i am the only one who is pulling out their money. I will leave what i have in, but I also make $200k a year and why would i invest into a market that is clearly rigged?

stollen

(802 posts)
62. Do you have a TSP?
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:40 PM
Apr 9

The politicians do. They either put the pressure on Trump re: tariffs or prepared themselves, with insider knowledge, to benefit.

I stayed in during the W market tank and stayed in during Trump's CIVID debacle. Despite losing $111,000 in a month, I felt comfortable hanging in with one fund but did cash out at a near high with the other, fearful Trump would take it all.

WSHazel

(340 posts)
20. Blatant market manipulation
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 02:45 PM
Apr 9

A week ago he announces catastrophically damaging tariffs, and the market goes into a tailspin. Then, with no new information, and Trump reiterating that he would keep the tariffs on, suddenly reverses course, sending the market shooting up.

This is not the first time he has done a bad news/good news about face. It looks sketchy and it will chase off investors if they think the market is rigged. This isn’t one of those things where they need to prove anything. It just looks sketchy, and that is all it takes.

splano

(14 posts)
25. It leaked yesterday
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 03:15 PM
Apr 9

It leaked yesterday on X but was pretty much dismissed as fake news.

The post made its way through several investing groups I’m a member of and it wasn’t until trumps message this morning about “buying” and seeing that the market was moving slightly up amongst the turmoil that I had a strong feeling it was true.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,814 posts)
39. Nope. I bet you can't find and post a credible tweet (i.e. not thin air speculation or direct statements fr principals)
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 03:49 PM
Apr 9

Last edited Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:25 PM - Edit history (1)

This tweet


is not the tweet you are talking about:

1) It was today, not yesterday
2) It was tRump, publicly. That's not a leak. That was not somebody leaking about hidden info.


twodogsbarking

(13,400 posts)
28. Trump's just fuckin' with everybody. Threatens to hit you ten times with a belt and then expects you to like only
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 03:21 PM
Apr 9

getting hit twice. China has never bowed to him so he has to make an example of them. Typical MF Trump.

Doodley

(10,756 posts)
29. If Biden had tweeted 10% tariffs on 90 nations and 104% on China, the markets would have collapsed and the media would
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 03:30 PM
Apr 9

be calling for him to resign. But with Trump, this is seen as great news.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,814 posts)
41. 10 % blanket tariffs are estimated to cause something like 0.2 or 0.3 hit on GDP. That's not considering China. . . nt
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 03:52 PM
Apr 9

SayItLoud

(1,757 posts)
31. Find those people? Then what?
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 03:31 PM
Apr 9

There are no enforcement methods or devices under this DICKtator's rule.

brush

(59,597 posts)
35. Come on, people. All this means is trump blinked because his tariff moves were...
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 03:35 PM
Apr 9

Last edited Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:14 PM - Edit history (1)

creating not just a national economic crisis but an international one as China, Europe and the rest of the world signaled they will institute retaliatory tariffs. trump blinked and had to put a 90-day pause on the still tariffs.

That's why the market shot up, but a coming recession is already baked in, maybe even a depression.

Tariffs wars don't work. trump is an idiot for thinking other countries won't retaliate.

Bengus81

(8,702 posts)
49. Doesn't mean committing a crime in the process should not be looked at.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:11 PM
Apr 9

Yeah...the tariffs are off,then ON,then OFF. Hot button crap that moves the markets. He manipulated them and no doubt committed insider trading. That POS is a career criminal.

brush

(59,597 posts)
54. Agreed he's a career criminal. He maybe getting a cut from some close to him...
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:22 PM
Apr 9

who are selling short on his manipulations and volatility of the markets. I think the fool just enjoys creating chaos and thinking other countries have to come kiss his ring and ask for personal favors for their economies.



Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,349 posts)
64. I strongly suspect that Pissolini does nothing
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 06:10 PM
Apr 9

that he doesn't have good reason to expect will result in him gaining power and/or money. Or both. Selling pardons, kickbacks of all sorts...I don't know enough to know all the ways he's gifting, but I know that if there's one thing he's good at, it's gifting.

Warpy

(113,237 posts)
48. those old boys always get tipped off
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:06 PM
Apr 9

They might get suckered this time along with the rest of us, they might not.

Nobody knows what is going to happen long term as long as That Fat Grifter is swinging his bludgeon around and pulling unrealistic numbers out of his bum.

D_Master81

(2,020 posts)
55. Jail time
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:22 PM
Apr 9

Martha Stewart went to jail for the same thing. But that was back when we were a nation of laws

doc03

(37,729 posts)
57. I have come to the conclusion the tariff bs is just to manipulte the markets. The
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:26 PM
Apr 9

billionaires are making money on every rise or dip.

patphil

(7,703 posts)
59. It happened faster than I thought it would.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:29 PM
Apr 9

I thought he would let the market go down a few thousand points more before announcing a "pause".
Maybe he wanted to preempt any Congressional action to take away his tariff power so he can do it again in a few months.
It's all blatant manipulation and insider trading. The rich get richer, and everyone else gets screwed.
If he had done nothing, the results would have been catastrophic. The securities market was already under attack, and if Trump waited another week, it would have been brutal.
He's getting good advice from people who know how to manipulate markets, and he's listening to it.
I didn't think he would.

The takeaway here is that the whole tariff thing was just a smoke screen for market manipulation.
As usual, it's all about the money.
Silly me, I thought he actually believed the hype he was putting our about Making America Great Again.
All he really wanted was to make the rich richer, including himself.

poozwah

(304 posts)
60. transition
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 04:36 PM
Apr 9

from manican to panican. guess he will now have to play golf with the opposite, and much fairer, sex.

bucolic_frolic

(49,920 posts)
68. Tell me about it.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 07:21 PM
Apr 9

I didn't watch the market today. Went food shopping. Saw lots of price increases, but also some declines and bagged some real bargains. Also saw a woman digging in a public trash barrel. She carried out a large paper bag. She had a car, but I do wonder if she was rummaging for food. Or perhaps aluminum cans.

Anyway .... Micron shot up 12 points, Uber 3 and change, right on down the line. Missed them all. This is much like the day Musk went public about acquiring Twitter. I was short and lost more than a bit. So my guess is Musk.

kentuck

(113,529 posts)
69. They could start with the execs of the tech companies...
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 07:25 PM
Apr 9

At what price did they buy back their stock?

That would be just like a "taxcut".

DENVERPOPS

(11,837 posts)
84. Trump and his CABAL
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:27 PM
Apr 9

neutered the SEC in the first administration, along with all other regulatory agencies with initials...

Eddie Haskell 60

(35 posts)
71. They need to start with Trump's friends and family
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 07:45 PM
Apr 9

No doubt they got a heads-up! All their stock holdings should be reviewed.

Blue Full Moon

(2,053 posts)
76. Very good video on trade and tariffs in committee.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:02 PM
Apr 9
?si=1w0Z3o11jurdpGwJ

I like his videos. He left the country to get his wife a green card and he is in Korea because they won't let him come back to the USA.

Baitball Blogger

(49,847 posts)
78. That's a great video!
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:25 PM
Apr 9

It does make me sick the way the Republicans do everything to protect each other from accountability.

evilhime

(349 posts)
77. market manipulation
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:21 PM
Apr 9

I want to know how many and which proxies bought for chump when it was bottomed out only to be able to sell now as it goes up again. AT the very least it smacks of insider trading, and likely manipulation as well.

iemanja

(55,852 posts)
89. A donor isn't the entire market
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:59 AM
Apr 10

That involves thousands of fund managers. Institutional investors, not individuals, do most of the trading on Wall Street.

Jit423

(1,222 posts)
81. This is only the fourth time they, the Trump cabal, have cashed in the tariff-stock market.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:33 PM
Apr 9

Why most people don't see or understand what they are doing is beyond me. The stock market money is leaving the country and we don't even know it. Anyone with a 401K should be worried and ready to cash in and make other plans for their investment.

ecstatic

(34,744 posts)
82. they don't even try to hide it. I mean, why make it so obvious?
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:10 PM
Apr 9

Because they're so confident that nothing will happen to them. I'm so sick of this shit!

AdamGG

(1,675 posts)
85. Keep good records of this
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:36 PM
Apr 9

because no federal entity is going to prosecute this for at least 4 years. And, there will be so much more crazy shit between now and then that it will probably not be at the top of their list.

iemanja

(55,852 posts)
88. Someone may have
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:56 AM
Apr 10

But not the entire market. That’s nonsensical. It would involve tipping off all the major mutual funds and retirement funds. Does anyone actually think Trump world tip off thousands of fund managers?

This supposed timing story also ignores the impact of the t-bill sales.

People love conspiracy theories. It leaves me sad about the state of our country.



AdamGG

(1,675 posts)
90. It would be shocking if Trump and people around him
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 02:12 AM
Apr 10

didn't benefit from this. It's the biggest insider tip of all time and they're the least ethical people in the country.

They're also very unprofessional and sloppy and the tip could have spread like wildfire. Trump was posting, "now is the time to buy" on social media beforehand because he is congenitally incapable of being ethical.

iemanja

(55,852 posts)
92. That's a separate point
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 07:12 AM
Apr 10

I agree that it is likely they did benefit, but that’s insider trading. The OP’s claim is that the entire bounce back yesterday was rigged. Naturally no one can explain how that could even happen

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,101 posts)
91. We need congressional hearings &anyone who used inside information should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 03:52 AM
Apr 10

Happy Hoosier

(8,889 posts)
93. Someone?
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 08:41 AM
Apr 10

Ah man, I think they have a whole call list to hit when he does this shit. I mean, why not? He can do whatever he wants.... no consequences.

Scalded Nun

(1,385 posts)
94. He'll rig anything, enrich anyone. No consequences for anyone. Who would investigate or prosecute?
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 09:49 AM
Apr 10
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