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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA terrible thought has ocurred to me regarding this apparent ongoing pump-and-dump scheme in the markets.
As Trump's seemingly capricious actions bounce stocks up and down like a yo-yo, there are tremendous fortunes to be made by those who are privy to his next decision. Through proxies (if necessary), they could short stocks that they know Trump is about to crash, or buy stocks on a low dip if they know Trump is about to reverse a decision and send those stocks bouncing upward again.
It's occurred to me that one person who would absolutely insist on being kept in the loop would be...Vladimir Putin. If that's the case, then Trump's actions might well be helping to reverse Russia's long stretch of economic adversity.

Irish_Dem
(68,459 posts)Maybe he is way more than just in the loop.
John1956PA
(3,964 posts)Putin's long game is a war of attrition against Ukraine. He is now paying China to provide mercenaries to fight alongside the Russian troops in Ukraine.

OMGWTF
(4,679 posts)I heard a story from The Atlantic IIRC that if a NK soldier is captured alive their entire family will be killed. Sounds about right.
Fk I hate these people!
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukraine on Wednesday expanded on its claim that significant numbers of Chinese nationals are fighting for Russia’s invading army, saying it had gathered detailed intelligence on more than 150 mercenaries Moscow allegedly recruited through social media. In China, officials called the allegations “totally unfounded.”
The Ukrainian accusation and Chinese denial come as the U.S. strives to secure a ceasefire in the more than three-year war.
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy announced Tuesday that the Ukrainian military had captured two Chinese men fighting alongside the Russian army on Ukrainian soil. It was the first time Ukraine had made such a claim about Chinese fighters in the war.
John1956PA
(3,964 posts)Evolve Dammit
(20,516 posts)Irish_Dem
(68,459 posts)yellowdogintexas
(23,194 posts)SunSeeker
(55,493 posts)
If they did that, they made a lot of money in just a matter of hours.
kentuck
(113,529 posts)Now is a good time to BUY!!! (wink wink)
tinrobot
(11,521 posts)gab13by13
(27,779 posts)MadameButterfly
(2,873 posts)Trump might pardon them but if these guys have to go to court and are convicted you can't say it didn't happen.
It's all about exposing the corruption and eroding Trump's support. We don't need the base, but we need everybody else to end this thing.
if anyone goes to prison--that would be icing on the cake. We just want our democracy back.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,349 posts)the emporer's favor. But we must keep seeking justice and loudly letting the public know about the crooked Trump cabal.
rubbersole
(9,704 posts)So to speak.
WarGamer
(16,990 posts)Just watch stock charts and buy any huge green candle...
Mister Ed
(6,570 posts)WarGamer
(16,990 posts)Watch the news every second... rely on Discord groups or X pages with instant news flashes...
Or simple chart analysis... but that's not really useful i a chaotic market.
And NEVER sell stock from an emotional place.
A lot of people lost tons of money dumping their portfolios in the last week.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(27,765 posts)that buy and hold generates. I'm tempted to say they never make any money, but that's probably not correct.
And it is idiots who panic and sell at times like this that lose the most.
Now is the time to buy.
WarGamer
(16,990 posts)THEY are making ALL the money.
Retail just goes after the crumbs.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(27,765 posts)in good funds will make someone a whole lot more money than individual day trading.
WarGamer
(16,990 posts)PufPuf23
(9,373 posts)TheRickles
(2,690 posts)WarGamer
(16,990 posts)Bluepinky
(2,397 posts)You know this is another get rich quick scheme for Trump, his family and billionaire donors. He can do these tariff/stock market manipulations over and over, for an ongoing stream of money. 💰
yardwork
(66,311 posts)However, he's not sharing it with the people of Russia.
OMGWTF
(4,679 posts)Thom Hartmann tells the story about Putin inviting all of Russia's oligarchs to his palace. When they arrived, one of their own was in a cage and Putin said to give him half of their fortunes or they too, would end up in a cage. I believe it.
SayItLoud
(1,757 posts)A_Steel_Magnolia
(87 posts)Every time the stock market tanks because of a government action/decision, especially going forward, the rich get richer while the poor lose jobs, home equity, savings, etc. Some of the gains are because the rich can ride it out, but congresscritters definitely benefit from insider trading, which is not illegal. MTG cashed out about $1M in stocks in March just before the tariff BS began. Think TSF didn't warn her?
Cheezoholic
(2,872 posts)on a "mediocre" salary I think was his quote? Now I'm not as naïve as MTG's district of morons, I mean I knew she was worth roughly 10 million when she got elected. Her and hubby at the time inherited her daddy's big construction business. The rats in her district didn't find out until her big divorce. I know someone who lives in her district and they said when she first ran she went out and bought a 2500 dollar rusty old ford pick up and went door to door in it.
Sorry, MTG is a trigger for me
Meowmee
(8,669 posts)What psycho is doing is illegal.
ProfessorGAC
(72,378 posts)We have ample evidence that he is a buffoon surrounded by the gang that couldn't shoot straight.
The market is still down 4.2% YTD.
It also didn't require inside information. There was likely to be a bounce, the bond market reacted, and he's been ping-ponging on tariffs for weeks.
All highly predictable without inside information.
intrepidity
(8,263 posts)PatSeg
(50,097 posts)I don't think all of this is quite as chaotic as it appears and someone(s) is making a fortune off of his seemingly erratic behavior.
Meowmee
(8,669 posts)BidenRocks
(1,346 posts)Didn't we have a Securities and Exchange Commission to look into these crimes.
Once a felon...
enid602
(9,301 posts)The old Trump Pump ‘n Dump!
stillcool
(33,659 posts)all that has been done. I think people give him far too much credit for following orders. It's the unknowable cabal that is giving the orders which is maddening. Instead of who benefits, it's more who hasn't gotten hurt. The way they unload billions every election cycle what would it take to hurt people like that? There's got to be some lines drawn somewhere but with all the chaos it must be a hoot for them all.
mdbl
(6,255 posts)Until then, we have a serial criminal messing with the markets. It actually deserves impeachment, conviction and removal from office but the weenies in the Pug party won't do that.
Iamscrewed
(112 posts)Treasonous capitalist rigging the market for his oligarchy buddies for Putin's desires.
RhapsodyFav
(49 posts)There is no way tRump and his ilk are not privy to what's going on and making bank on the swings. And of course no one will be investigated.