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dalton99a

(88,256 posts)
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:15 PM Apr 9

Sex Workers Already Predicted There's A Recession Coming -- Here's How They Know

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https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/sex-workers-already-predicted-theres-110007476.html

Sex Workers Already Predicted There's A Recession Coming — Here's How They Know
Jamie Davis Smith
Tue, April 8, 2025 at 6:00 a.m. CDT

While some people anxiously watch the stock market for signs of a recession, others look for more subtle cues that the economy is in trouble.

One of them is Catherine De Noire, a manager of a legal brothel, a Ph.D. candidate in organizational psychology and an influencer. When business at her brothel unexpectedly dips, De Noire takes it as a sign that the economy is in trouble.

Although De Noire is based in Europe, she believes that economic upheaval in the United States “triggers huge uncertainty” across the pond because of America’s global influence. De Noire first noticed a decline in business right after Donald Trump was elected in November 2024, as Americans and the rest of the world anticipated upheaval.

Strippers in the U.S. are also feeling the pinch. Dancer and influencer Vulgar Vanity said that when she first started dancing in 2022, she could earn six figures just by dancing during a handful of big events in Austin, such as the Formula 1 Grand Prix and South by Southwest music festival. This year is different.

“I didn’t even bother working South by Southwest because the first Friday night I attempted to work, I walked into a completely empty club and didn’t make any money at all,” she said.

Vanity also says that many of her regular customers aren’t tipping at all or tipping less than half of what they used to. She is quick to point out that she is just one dancer and “obviously not an economist,” but she notes that other dancers and tipped workers are also hurting. Her theory is that her customers are no longer tipping as generously because of rising costs and economic uncertainty. Vanity is worried that this means we are on the verge of a recession or full-blown depression.

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Jit423

(1,222 posts)
2. Casinos are feeling it too. They are trying to keep it quiet but the word is out.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:37 PM
Apr 9

Now folks are staying away from the slots because they think the Casinos won't be paying off.

NJCher

(39,838 posts)
3. when I worked in marketing
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:56 PM
Apr 9

for big restaurant chains like McDonald's, Burger King, and Red Lobster, we could see it in the customer counts. People stop going out to dinner or even lunch at a fast food chain.

They also do that, though, before a holiday like Easter or Christmas. so you have to consider that as well.

progree

(11,832 posts)
5. There are several other trends that indicate economic hard times mentioned in the article, e.g. craft beer sales down
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:01 AM
Apr 10

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men's underware sales, online dating index (people shift towards lower-cost sites), brunette index (fewer blondes because of the cost of a brunette maintaining a blonde appearance and in generally amount spent at hair salons),

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And people upthread mentioned casino revenue and dining out.

I just saw an article about a big upturn in thrift store traffic

Bluetus

(969 posts)
6. Another unscientific data point -- my Amazon cart
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:06 AM
Apr 10

These days, I am not buying much from Amazon. However, there is one feature I find interesting. When there is something I may want to buy at some point, I often add it to me Amazon cart, and then click on "save for later". At any time, I might have 20-25 items in there. Most of them I never buy from Amazon or anybody else. But one feature is that Amazon displays a concise list of price changes. In normal times, you see some prices move up a little and some move down a little. I think they have an algorithm that tries to optimize the quantity of product they keep in their various warehouses.

What I am noticing the past week or two is that nearly ALL the items are up, and some of them are up a significant amount, like 10%. This is the real world impact of tariffs. The product I would order today has probably already been imported and not subject to any of Trump's capricious tariffs. But the merchants are looking at dark times ahead, so they are moving the prices up to bank as many profits as they can before they have to start paying big tariffs. It will be interesting to watch because much of the Amazon inventory comes from mainland China, so presumably will be hit with 150% tariffs immediately. If so, we are going to see some crazy s*** on Amazon (and everywhere else).

Being the curious type, I have just loaded another 20 products into my cart so I can see how those prices move.

Here's the thing. Xi doesn't really have to negotiate with Trump. Bezzos and many other American billionaires will be hitting Trump hard because, while China can sell to 180 other countries, at least in the near term, Amazon can't get most of what they need from anyplace but China.

Hekate

(97,318 posts)
9. Interesting. I watch those Amazon prices go up & down as well. I mostly buy books from them...
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:44 AM
Apr 10

Because of my curious nature, I generally have upwards of 300 items in my Save For Later cart. No, I do not buy them all, not by a long chalk, but when someone recommends a book I can just toss it in my cart for later consideration. Consideration includes going to the public library.

The algorithm has some odd quirks. Prices can go up astronomically, then gradually float back down. Or maybe stay in the stratosphere, where I never buy.

I like DVDs as well, but have no intention of overpaying. I can wait. Sadly, some end up never coming to Amazon at all, no idea why.

BaronChocula

(2,646 posts)
8. Excuse me Madam
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:14 AM
Apr 10

But where were you when when magas, media, and morons were telling us "RECESSION IS COMING" all four years of Biden-Harris?

Marcuse

(8,313 posts)
13. Ms. Vanity could reduce her prices and increase her volume. It's her patriotic duty to feel the pain
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:46 PM
Apr 10
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