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pnwest

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whoever it was should arrange for the pukes to end this shit show, if they can Blues Heron Apr 9 #1
Maybe I'm being heedlessly optimistic... pnwest Apr 9 #5
I'm with you, eventually truth and sanity will prevail Blues Heron Apr 9 #6
Only about 4 more years of this crap thought crime Apr 10 #9
Some rich people might be getting tired of the Dunning-Kruger Administration's constant fuck-ups. Ocelot II Apr 9 #2
The Moron Who Cried Wolf got exactly what he wanted... Hugin Apr 9 #4
Normalizing chaos thought crime Apr 10 #7
Huh? NJCher Apr 10 #10
Screwing up the bond market is playing with plutonium. usonian Apr 9 #3
Apparently Japan started offloading US Treasuries thought crime Apr 10 #8
This is what happens when NJCher Apr 10 #12
Its not the Mob boss who fucking with the world economy. He's the puppet of people like Navarro and Musk. Ford_Prefect Apr 10 #18
Adam Schiff NJCher Apr 10 #21
Somebody had a 'come to Jesus' moment with him over the bonds. NH Ethylene Apr 10 #19
That would have to be Jesus, because he's smarter than all his advisors usonian Apr 10 #25
Is it just me or are the repukes disintegrating?? ailsagirl Apr 10 #11
Attention, everyone. Chaos will continue and increase until the mad destructor is smacked down. Period. usonian Apr 10 #14
Who do you think this person is? Meowmee Apr 10 #13
My guess is the Saudis. pnwest Apr 10 #16
It was not my idea, but I would not have thought of the Saudis Meowmee Apr 10 #17
Putin. rubbersole Apr 10 #22
Putin is worth 200B apparently... why would he want to back off the tariffs and social security? Meowmee Apr 10 #24
To keep his puppet from the metaphorical guillotine, if I had to guess. rubbersole Apr 10 #26
Possible but the idea is to weaken us etc. Meowmee Apr 10 #28
What does Putin or Prince Bone saw get out of this? JT45242 Apr 10 #15
The CEO of JP Morgan was on TV and Trump saw him flamingdem Apr 10 #20
It stopped messing with one aspect of social security - or at least changed how they are describing it. Ms. Toad Apr 10 #23
It was the bond market that scared trump LetMyPeopleVote Apr 10 #27

Blues Heron

(6,802 posts)
1. whoever it was should arrange for the pukes to end this shit show, if they can
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:42 PM
Apr 9

pnwest

(3,377 posts)
5. Maybe I'm being heedlessly optimistic...
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:02 PM
Apr 9

but it feels like we've seen the bottom, the worst of what can happen. It's not going to get better any time soon, but I think the republic will hold.

Blues Heron

(6,802 posts)
6. I'm with you, eventually truth and sanity will prevail
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:25 PM
Apr 9

thought crime

(160 posts)
9. Only about 4 more years of this crap
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:18 AM
Apr 10

One thing after another.

Ocelot II

(124,319 posts)
2. Some rich people might be getting tired of the Dunning-Kruger Administration's constant fuck-ups.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 10:42 PM
Apr 9

Hugin

(36,046 posts)
4. The Moron Who Cried Wolf got exactly what he wanted...
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:01 PM
Apr 9

Attention. Lots of it. He will repeat this performance every opportunity he gets until finally finally the rest of the world learns to ignore him.

Our economy is already in a shambles as chaos and confusion reign. The SCrOTUS is hopefully becoming aware that the Trumpanzees don't do nuance. They handed him a call to due diligence which will be summarily ignored.

I see no wins and certainly no invisible hands in today's events. They went exactly according to the Tangeranus' wishes. Maximum disruption, pain, and uncertainty.

thought crime

(160 posts)
7. Normalizing chaos
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:09 AM
Apr 10

The world is taking the medicine. Next week it will be something else, and the errors accumulate.

NJCher

(39,838 posts)
10. Huh?
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:20 AM
Apr 10

I was right with you up until your last paragraph.

If he is, as posts on this thread state, an attention hound who overstepped his bounds, what they are going to conclude if they don’t need him.

Buh bye.

usonian

(17,209 posts)
3. Screwing up the bond market is playing with plutonium.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:01 PM
Apr 9

The Chinese own a boatload of U.S. treasuries, and can take down the US information infrastructure at the drop of a hat.

Because they already did.

Mess with them, will you? Sure.

thought crime

(160 posts)
8. Apparently Japan started offloading US Treasuries
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:13 AM
Apr 10

Speak softly and swing the big stick.

NJCher

(39,838 posts)
12. This is what happens when
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:27 AM
Apr 10

You have a dumb mob boss for a president.

Ford_Prefect

(8,342 posts)
18. Its not the Mob boss who fucking with the world economy. He's the puppet of people like Navarro and Musk.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:55 AM
Apr 10

He talks big bad voodoo and throws world threat tantrums, but they are the ones steering him towards the edge. Who do you think it was that beat the market today?

NJCher

(39,838 posts)
21. Adam Schiff
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:25 AM
Apr 10

Will find out. He started an investigation.

NH Ethylene

(31,102 posts)
19. Somebody had a 'come to Jesus' moment with him over the bonds.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:01 AM
Apr 10

Bottom line: No increasing the national debt if nobody wants to buy our bonds.

usonian

(17,209 posts)
25. That would have to be Jesus, because he's smarter than all his advisors
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:34 AM
Apr 10

Last edited Thu Apr 10, 2025, 02:41 AM - Edit history (1)

putting their effective IQ at 30 or less. Wonder who has that kind of cudgel.

Maybe someone in one of the think tanks that I care not to know. He flips the bird to previous presidents. Oh Putin ??? found the situation to be harmful? That would take some deeper analysis. He seems to be the only person whose opinion matters.


I read some other posts ...
On edit, the Saudis own him as well. He didn't play in the Russian golf league, just the LIV.

ailsagirl

(24,113 posts)
11. Is it just me or are the repukes disintegrating??
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:21 AM
Apr 10

It may take awhile, but it seems they're on the "right" track. I look forward to the snowball effect coming into play.

usonian

(17,209 posts)
14. Attention, everyone. Chaos will continue and increase until the mad destructor is smacked down. Period.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:35 AM
Apr 10


Now, there seems to be real silence from many we counted on as leaders, so let me propose some "downfall" scenarios and some reason why some might be silent.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20215296

There are powers that don't play silly games.

Meowmee

(8,669 posts)
13. Who do you think this person is?
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:32 AM
Apr 10

I hope you are right but it doesn't take him out of power and I expect more chaos and crap.

pnwest

(3,377 posts)
16. My guess is the Saudis.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:49 AM
Apr 10

You?

Meowmee

(8,669 posts)
17. It was not my idea, but I would not have thought of the Saudis
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:54 AM
Apr 10

I don't know who it or they would be if this is even true. I think more likely the bond sell off scared them. I didn't know elunatic and the dogies had backed off social security. But they still have all of our stolen data etc.
House of Saudi is worth 1.4 trillion apparently. Richer than eloonatic.

I can't find anything about doge backing away from their attack on social security... do you have a link?

rubbersole

(9,704 posts)
22. Putin.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:27 AM
Apr 10

Wrecking America one news cycle at a time.

Meowmee

(8,669 posts)
24. Putin is worth 200B apparently... why would he want to back off the tariffs and social security?
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:34 AM
Apr 10

rubbersole

(9,704 posts)
26. To keep his puppet from the metaphorical guillotine, if I had to guess.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:57 AM
Apr 10

Meowmee

(8,669 posts)
28. Possible but the idea is to weaken us etc.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 02:27 AM
Apr 10

JT45242

(3,258 posts)
15. What does Putin or Prince Bone saw get out of this?
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 12:40 AM
Apr 10

One of those two called this ..maybe they had a lot of money to get laundered thru insider trading.

Maybe it's just the chaos.

But Bone saw just had a golf event at the felon golf course.

flamingdem

(40,370 posts)
20. The CEO of JP Morgan was on TV and Trump saw him
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:16 AM
Apr 10

and understood that the bond market was blowing up.

His circle doesn't dare tell him the truth but that and perhaps other CEOs got through
to him - no more donations if you don't change your tariff game.

Ms. Toad

(36,693 posts)
23. It stopped messing with one aspect of social security - or at least changed how they are describing it.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 01:34 AM
Apr 10

Instead of making people who can't identify themselves online come in for a visit, they are going to make people who fail a telefraud check come in for a visit.

The far bigger "messing with social security" that I'm worried about is the wholesale replacement of the software code on an impossibly short timeline - at the same time they are terminating employees who would be able to recognize when something goes wrong with the code. I don't see any announcement that that prospect has changed.

LetMyPeopleVote

(161,888 posts)
27. It was the bond market that scared trump
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 02:08 AM
Apr 10
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