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SunSeeker

(55,493 posts)
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 02:44 AM Apr 10

A 'disaster': Gretchen Whitmer's talk on tariffs and meeting with Trump anger fellow Democrats

The Michigan governor tried to play nice with Trump. Instead, there’s a sense in the party that she got played when the president used her as a bipartisan Oval Office prop. First, in a policy speech outlining a “consistent national strategy,” Whitmer staked out common ground with President Donald Trump. And though Whitmer criticized Trump’s sweeping, roller-coaster rollout of — and subsequent retreat from — tariffs, she said she was not against tariffs “outright” and expressed understanding of Trump’s “motivation” behind deploying them. That drew a social media rebuke from Colorado’s Democratic governor, Jared Polis.

“Tariffs are bad outright because they lead to higher prices and destroy American manufacturing,” Polis, another potential 2028 contender who has also sought ways to find common cause with Trump, wrote on X. “Trade is inherently good because both parties emerge better off from a consensual transaction.”

Then, later Wednesday, Whitmer joined Trump in the Oval Office. She was scheduled to meet privately with him and discuss Michigan issues. That wasn’t how it ultimately played out. Instead, she stood by as he signed several executive orders, including two calling for Justice Department probes of officials who served in his first administration and called him out for falsely claiming the 2020 election was stolen. He made the false claims about the election’s being “rigged” again Wednesday.

Whitmer was invited into the Oval Office alongside Michigan state House Speaker Matt Hall, a Republican, as Trump held court with reporters and signed the executive orders. Photos showed Whitmer standing uncomfortably against a door as the cameras rolled.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/disaster-gretchen-whitmers-talk-tariffs-meeting-trump-anger-fellow-dem-rcna200530

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A 'disaster': Gretchen Whitmer's talk on tariffs and meeting with Trump anger fellow Democrats (Original Post) SunSeeker Apr 10 OP
"Disaster" seems like an understatement. madaboutharry Apr 10 #1
She apparently was there to show they share common ground on tariffs. SunSeeker Apr 10 #2
Post removed Post removed Apr 10 #3
Just wondering how many of her own toes she blew off . . . . hatrack Apr 10 #4
I see this as groveling to the king alarimer Apr 10 #5
She and her team have been exposed as total lightweights BeyondGeography Apr 10 #6
Ughhh RJ-MacReady Apr 10 #7
Well, if she had been planning to run for higher office she just deep sixed it. Vinca Apr 10 #8
Being made to stand there while he signed those EOs of Attainder was a career killer Prairie Gates Apr 10 #9
Whitmer lost her mind and went Fetterman. Hey Gretch, no one likes Fetterman anymore. Wingus Dingus Apr 10 #10
+1000. Enough of these wimpy, trump-accommodating "Democrats"! (nt) Paladin Apr 10 #17
She was not wrong. Passages Apr 10 #11
No, she's not wrong technically. Tariffs have their limited place. harumph Apr 10 #16
I don't agree. Corp media is predictable on this kind of thing and then Dems Passages Apr 10 #18
Didn't his goons try to kidnap her? malaise Apr 10 #12
Trump will thank her tomorrow newdeal2 Apr 10 #14
Can't believe I read something about this yesterday and missed yorkster Apr 10 #13
Weird. jalan48 Apr 10 #15
Disaster is an understatement pinkstarburst Apr 10 #19
When she got on the plane, Depression 2025 was on. Kid Berwyn Apr 10 #20
I have generally approved of her, in particular her views on energy, which are consistent with my own, but... NNadir Apr 10 #21

madaboutharry

(41,851 posts)
1. "Disaster" seems like an understatement.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 05:10 AM
Apr 10

I’m surprised that she even considered going to meet with him. What did she think would be accomplished?

SunSeeker

(55,493 posts)
2. She apparently was there to show they share common ground on tariffs.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 05:20 AM
Apr 10

But I don't understand why she supports Trump's inane tariffs. They are deeply unpopular. https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3922 And knowledgeable economists agree that these tariffs will NOT bring back manufacturing to Michigan or anywhere else. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-tariffs-entice-companies-expand-us-manufacturing-economic/story?id=120635951

Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

hatrack

(62,256 posts)
4. Just wondering how many of her own toes she blew off . . . .
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 06:55 AM
Apr 10

Last edited Thu Apr 10, 2025, 07:54 AM - Edit history (1)

And btw, the last fucking thing I want to hear about right now is "bipartisanship".

It means one thing at the moment - surrender.

That's all it will ever mean until President Whiny Toddler is wheeled out of the West Wing on a gurney with a sheet over his face.

This isn't 1992, Governor. Get a fucking clue.

alarimer

(17,143 posts)
5. I see this as groveling to the king
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 06:59 AM
Apr 10

Like Neville Chamberlain.

Tariffs are a tool and should be used judiciously. What Trump is doing is not that. Why is anybody sucking up to him?

BeyondGeography

(40,424 posts)
6. She and her team have been exposed as total lightweights
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 07:12 AM
Apr 10

They had no control of the agenda with Trump (oh, what a surprise) and if she had a good answer for what she would have done differently on tariffs, she wouldn’t have been there in the first place.

Whitmer also said she hadn’t “thought through” how she’d handle tariffs differently from Trump, only that they should be used as a “scalpel.”

A national Democratic strategist said, “It is a massive indictment on Whitmer and her team’s judgment to, first, not have an answer on the tariff question and then go the White House and get absolutely played by Donald Trump to the point she is caught in the Oval Office as he signs one of his revenge and retribution executive orders and says 2020 was rigged.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/disaster-gretchen-whitmers-talk-tariffs-meeting-trump-anger-fellow-dem-rcna200530


Whitmer would have been one of my top choices had there been a primary in 2024 but I was mostly going on her ability to win in Michigan (admittedly no small thing) and her personality. When she started this pivot to “bipartisanship” right after the election I thought it was standard stuff, but it’s malpractice that she and her team did not update the playbook once the carnage started. If you’re a senior in Michigan worried about Social Security, how did yesterday feel? A government worker who is out of work, an individual who fears for himself and/or his family because of Stephen Miller’s deportation strategy, a teacher or a medical professional who is freaked out by what is happening with the DOE or HHS or just an average American appalled by who Trump is and what he has done to our country. None of it apparently mattered to Team Whitmer. She’s in the “bipartisan” lane and she’s sticking to it.

Yesterday was an exercise in empty-headed performative politics by Whitmer. It was a sad day for her and, given her stature, for the Democratic Party.

RJ-MacReady

(377 posts)
7. Ughhh
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 07:49 AM
Apr 10

Ok scratch her name from a possible 2028 run. What an absolute blunder. Srop trying to appease these people.

Prairie Gates

(4,907 posts)
9. Being made to stand there while he signed those EOs of Attainder was a career killer
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 08:33 AM
Apr 10

Say what you want about Trump: he certainly knows how to degrade and humiliate people.

Passages

(2,634 posts)
11. She was not wrong.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 08:48 AM
Apr 10

It is how they are used. Biden used them to protect Americans, not hurt them.

harumph

(2,662 posts)
16. No, she's not wrong technically. Tariffs have their limited place.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 09:34 AM
Apr 10

But the interaction with Trump was BADLY played. So BAD that it would give any Democrat pause when considering her for higher office. The Democratic party is infested with people who want to 'tack to the middle,' as if the 'middle' isn't some intangible
location where progressive or even modest left-of-center dreams go to die, but our MSM sells as bipartisanship.

Passages

(2,634 posts)
18. I don't agree. Corp media is predictable on this kind of thing and then Dems
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 10:13 AM
Apr 10

run instead of hit back and confront.

Biden used tariffs, they were done well.

newdeal2

(2,332 posts)
14. Trump will thank her tomorrow
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 09:01 AM
Apr 10

By pardoning those criminals and telling the DOJ to pay them back for their trouble.

yorkster

(2,963 posts)
13. Can't believe I read something about this yesterday and missed
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 09:01 AM
Apr 10

the fact that she was in the damn OVAL OFFICE. How the hell did I miss that?
Geez Gretchen. Not schmart.


Kid Berwyn

(20,038 posts)
20. When she got on the plane, Depression 2025 was on.
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 11:11 AM
Apr 10

When she got off, Poof! No tariffs.

Then she read what the original script said.

NNadir

(35,623 posts)
21. I have generally approved of her, in particular her views on energy, which are consistent with my own, but...
Thu Apr 10, 2025, 11:59 AM
Apr 10

...this is not the time, as another poster noted in this thread to channel Neville Chamberlin.

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