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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"YOU ARE A CHARLATAN" - Tina Peters sentencing.
"no respect for checks and balances"
This is what I dearly hope to see the rest of Trump's cabal get when just desserts are served.
This is why Trump is trying so hard to get her cut lose.
No one in their right mind wants to do nine years for the felon.
This Judge is incredible.
If Supreme Court justices had the integrity this guy has in his pinky finger, this country would be in much better shape.
drmeow
(5,904 posts)a "reverse Ghilaine Maxwell" and move Peters to a higher security prison while she demands that they violate the constitution.
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)This is a MUST WATCH.
And I agree.
dgauss
(1,484 posts)However that would be described, what a great F****** good thing to hear.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,038 posts)It is easy for the judge to go after her. It is easy for everyone to go after her.
Wake me when it is Miller, or Voight, or Hegseth, or the orange gibbon standing there.
Then, I might start thinking about justice again.
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)That shows MAGAT operatives they will NOT tamper with eiections with impunity.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,038 posts)Let's see if it works.
(I would not hold my breath, if I were you.)
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)dgauss
(1,484 posts)Wake up and the monsters are gone?
This, as long ago as it was, is how it will happen.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,038 posts)Destroying the machine is what needs to be done. Not slowly taking a piece here and there while it continues to damage our citizens.
That is going to create more suffering that does not have to happen, except for those who do not want things to change too much because of their own involvement with the underlying reasons for all of this, as well as their socioeconomic position which will allow them to hang on in this situation longer than most of us can.
Do the 'elite' in this country really expect the rest of us to just sit and suffer while they wait till this affects their own bottom line?
Why should the poor do that?
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)And when the strings to the puppets are cut, the show is over.
reACTIONary
(6,957 posts)... get that done? What's the plan?
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)However -

Billionaire oligarchs are for all practical purposes untouchable.
Not so their lackeys.
Legally going after the foot soldiers is effective.
It discourages others from committing illegal acts for their masters, knowing they will face consequences that can't be cancelled by the masters, in this case a state conviction that Trump can't pardon legally.
This is why he is putting on a show of trying to release Peters, even though he can do nothing
reACTIONary
(6,957 posts)orangecrush
(28,145 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(10,038 posts)Stop supporting the machine. Stop giving it the recourses it has to have to keep on running.
NO machine will work without some sort of power to make it run. Remove that power and the machine is useless.
Stop giving the machine what it needs to run. Stop with the money. Stop with the manpower. Just stop supporting them in any way.
(One of my favorite things to read around here is how people with large tracts of land just cannot comprehend that they need to start growing their own food so that they can stop supporting those corporations that run stores that constantly gouge people because they have convinced us that we cannot sustain ourselves. We most certainly can. We may have been programmed to not believe this, but all we have to do is start doing it.)
We don't have to play their games. We have just been too programmed to believe otherwise.
Time to break the chain, so to speak.
Easterncedar
(5,441 posts)What a professional demeanor that judge has. Gravitas!
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)And he was livid, but kept his bearing.
sagetea
(1,536 posts)And cathartic!!
sage
MarineCombatEngineer
(17,577 posts)didn't hold back his contempt for her and her lies and defiance.
My only regret is that she didn't receive more prison time but I'll take it and Flim Flam Man/Ed Martin can get fucked for trying to coerce CO. with threats if she's not released or transferred to Fed. custody, which would be a get out of jail free card.
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)Is because he wants his agents to believe he can pardon them when they try to tamper with future election results.
It's obviously not because he gives a flying fuck about her personally.
Which is why it's so important to keep her in prison.
It sends a message to these traitors.
A Republican judge?
That's even more incredible, considering he blasted her and compared her to the less fortunate defendants who appeared before him, for whom he expressed genuine compassion.
MarineCombatEngineer
(17,577 posts)so probably most of the jurors were republicans, and the majority of Election Clerks who condemned Tina Peters were repubs. also, so that should tell you just how bad her crimes were.
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)And Trump wants to manipulate the outcome.
Bluetus
(2,230 posts)Those people need to see that they can end up in a state prison if they break any laws.
So far, we have seen very little on this. There is a big struggle in Pennsylvania where Republicans are trying to pass legislation making ICE agents untouchable. But Dems are trying to pass legislation prohibiting masks and requiring identification.
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)Thank you!
I hope it passes and inspires other states to follow suit.
NO SECRET POLICE!
markodochartaigh
(4,940 posts)However, in my opinion, trying to subvert an election is tantamount to overthrowing the government and should be prosecuted and punished the same. I should think life in prison.
erronis
(22,537 posts)Agree, the proceeding was riveting.
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)It sounds like he intended to address Trump indirectly.
Mr. Mustard 2023
(345 posts)Thoughts and prayers Tina. Honest, I wouldn't lie to you Ms. Tina Peters. Nah.
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)Seinan Sensei
(1,338 posts)It short-circuits Mango Canks power & wherewithal
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)And he knows that.
MarineCombatEngineer
(17,577 posts)I love it.
Ilsa
(63,790 posts)calimary
(88,917 posts)I THINK I know who were talking about, here
Is he the one who always looks like he has a big blond carefully-barbered fibrous haystack on his head?
electric_blue68
(25,685 posts)flvegan
(65,698 posts)Glorious.
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)democrank
(12,084 posts)in spite of the DO-YOU-KNOW-WHO-I-AM? Tina Peters.
hatrack
(64,196 posts)Your Honor,
durablend
(8,887 posts)The death threats gonna be coming in hard
Blue_Adept
(6,498 posts)orangecrush
(28,145 posts)stopdiggin
(14,960 posts)(for those that were not aware?)
You did have words to say about the clip. Why not include .. ?
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orangecrush
(28,145 posts)To explain this was a sentencing proceeding for a MAGAT who tried to tamper with voting machines.
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orangecrush
(28,145 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(17,577 posts)but this was about a year ago and, as is usually the case, the threats are hollow from a bunch of hollow RW lunatics.
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)Called "The Judge".
BeneteauBum
(302 posts)I cant wait until Krasnov faces the same objectivity.
Peace ☮️
Hope22
(4,435 posts)This judge is amazing! Thanks for posting.
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)To see there is still justice.
HAB911
(10,250 posts)orangecrush
(28,145 posts)Like one of Musk's rockets
liberalla
(10,787 posts)?si=1MwphHrZJ3975atw
UpInArms
(53,995 posts)Just the facts and a full measure of unrelenting justice
Ruby the Liberal
(26,595 posts)That was a great clip.
It will never cease to amaze me that so many people are willing to destroy their lives just to curry fleeting favor with a grifter con artist.
SunSeeker
(57,463 posts)She's lucky she only got 9 years. Her lies have damaged our democracy and violated her oath of office. She has zero remorse. She is an ongoing threat to our democracy with her continued spewing of lies online about our election system. I'm so glad she is locked up now!
soldierant
(9,266 posts)IIRC, they were trying to serve a warrant and she was in a bar. and resisted for real. I don't do newspapers, but Colorado Public Radio's email newsletter had a photo or two.
Before I moved in Colorado Springs, I lived for about a decade and a half in Alamosa Bounty in Central southern Colorado. Our county Clerk for most of that time was a Republican who took her oath seriously and was really nice. Sigh. Those were the days.
RetiredParatrooper
(62 posts)Cant say I feel bad for Ms. Peters,
infullview
(1,108 posts)orangecrush
(28,145 posts)soldierant
(9,266 posts)in that Colorado has one of the best prison systems in the nation. She will not be served food with maggots in it, as she might be in parts of the South. She won't like the uniforms, but she'll get them laundered regularly. If there's anyone who wants to visit her (which considering her attitude seems unlikely, but certainly possible), that visitor or visitors will have to fill out a form and have their background checked, but the process will be fair and likely fast, and if approved and they come to visit, they will be treated with grace.
However, they will not put up with being disrespected. Hopefully, that will impact her defiant attitude. I suspect that, if it doesn't, nothing will.
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)Solitary confinement.
I gather you have to try really hard to get that in a low security women's prison.
soldierant
(9,266 posts)Some years ago, after the head of our DOC had been shot by a former inmate, his replacement (whom a lot of people had been worried about since the murdered guy had been so good) spent 24 hours in solitary himself so he would know what it was like - and use it appropriately. So I don't doubt one would have to work to get into it here.
orangecrush
(28,145 posts)Because they received threats from nuts that said they were going to break her out by force.
That actually happened.
soldierant
(9,266 posts)Most likely pardoned JAn6-ers. So Trumpian.I wouldn't put it past him to senf the FBI for that.
nwduke
(482 posts)she was on camera acting as privileged obnoxious you cant touch me crook! Now, trump the felon cant touch her! 😂Throw away the key!
oasis
(53,322 posts)orangecrush
(28,145 posts)Takedown of the entire MAGA by this judge.