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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(12,695 posts)
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 07:27 PM 7 hrs ago

Stephen Miller is ignorant

Stephen Miller said, "Someone should write an alternate historical novel where Americans are the first to master the automobile, the first in flight, the first to harness the atom, the first to land on the moon — but just keep going and never open our borders to the entire third world for sixty years."


Miller added, "For those who don’t know, the US had negative migration for the half century between the first nonstop transatlantic flight and the moon landing."
That caused an eruption of comments from critics and experts alike.

Geopolitics blogger Anatoly Karlin said, "The first automobile was German, the Manhattan Project was primarily the work of immigrant Budapest Jews (the Martians), and German immigrants of dubious political provenance likewise played an important role in getting the US to the Moon."

Political scientist and right-wing personality Richard Hanania said, "America kept inventing stuff! It’s the center of global innovation, disproportionately due to immigration!"

"What planet are you living on?" he asked.


https://www.rawstory.com/stephen-miller-2674833003/

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haele

(15,044 posts)
2. America had wealthy businessmen who were willing to pay immigrant scientists and engineers
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 07:53 PM
7 hrs ago

To work on projects they couldn't find enough Americans with the education and background to work on.
The US also had the wide-open space, an industrial and manufacturing infrastructure that had more resources and capability to build at scale to support larger experimentation. Also, there might not have had all the science and engineering ability, but there was a surplus of strong backs and willing enough hands available to support those scientists, engineers, and technocrats without the class expectations that limited more participation in the rest of the world.

Tesla and Einstein were original H1Bs.

Miller and his ilk are idiots.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,104 posts)
6. It is also myth and false pride
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 08:37 PM
6 hrs ago

We won ww2 and the world should be grateful and worship us. The truth is that many people from all over the world sacrificed to destroy the axis, which is why they were called allies. We do not learn relevant history in this country.

paleotn

(21,454 posts)
5. The man who helped electrify the entire world? You guessed it. An immigrant to the US from Croatia.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 08:12 PM
6 hrs ago

Nikola Tesla.

Miller is such an ignorant fuck.

ColoringFool

(217 posts)
7. That's Why Miller Said "Third World." Plus, Von Braun...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 08:44 PM
6 hrs ago

Was basically invited, so Miller wouldn't "count" that.

But is he ignorant about immigrants to the US? Of course!

Never mind that he cited Sinatra and Dino as examples of "pure" Americans; I'd wager he doesn't know that Trump Mere was from Scotland.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(12,695 posts)
8. They want to exclude 2nd and 3rd generation Amerixans from Americanism but keep in western Europeans
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 09:03 PM
6 hrs ago

One racist does this convoluted rationalizing to keep herself as truly American (born to Jewish immigrants) and exclude brown people who have been here more generations.

It's crazy to hear her rationalizing

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