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Botany

(76,306 posts)
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 09:21 AM 7 hrs ago

Trump murders more Venezuelans. "U.S. military carries out 30th strike on alleged drug boat"

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military said Monday that it had conducted another strike against a boat accused of smuggling drugs in the eastern Pacific Ocean, killing two people.

The strike, which was announced by U.S. Southern Command on social media, has brought the total number of known boat strikes to 30 and the number of people killed at least 107 since early September, according to numbers announced by the Trump administration.

The military said the vessel "was engaged in narco-trafficking operations," though it did not provide evidence to back up the claim.

In a video of the strike posted to social media, a boat is seen moving through water before being struck by two explosions.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/u-s-military-carries-out-30th-strike-on-alleged-drug-boat

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These are war crimes. @ least 107 Venezuelans some of whom very likely not Venezuelans but were
fisherman from Columbia and or Trinidad and Tobago have been killed with no evidence or trials have
been murdered, he has seized 2 Venezuelan Oil tankers which Trump’s press secretary claimed were
“Financing Narco Terrorists” even though the narcotics trade produces enough money to finance itself
without outside help, the U.S. has now hit a Venezuelan port of some sort or other with vague talk about
drugs, now Trump is claiming that Venezuelan oil is really owned by American Oil Companies.

Trump:

"Well, it's about a lot of things," Trump said. "It's about that. It's about, you know, they took our oil,
they took it, …”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-land-strike-venezuela-facility-drug-boats-rcna251329

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Trump murders more Venezuelans. "U.S. military carries out 30th strike on alleged drug boat" (Original Post) Botany 7 hrs ago OP
It will not stop.............. Lovie777 7 hrs ago #1
We are producing future Venezuelan Terrorists and very likely 10s of thousands of deaths if Botany 7 hrs ago #5
Note to the Orange Menace: Attilatheblond 7 hrs ago #2
Trump is a murderer. When does our Congress and judiciary deal with him? travelingthrulife 7 hrs ago #3
And the effin planet shrugs its shoulders malaise 7 hrs ago #4
If that's not a crime I don't know what it is. Dave Bowman 7 hrs ago #6
Thirty illegal murderous strikes on alleged "narco terrorists," yet not one shred of evidence? Strange. sop 6 hrs ago #7
Even IF those boats were carrying drugs there is no way they should end up close to the U.S.. Botany 6 hrs ago #8
They carry Greg_In_SF 5 hrs ago #9
Even if they had totally packed those boats with extra fuel they might be able to get 100 miles or so .. Botany 5 hrs ago #11
The drugs Greg_In_SF 4 hrs ago #12
Is that an image of a boat blown up off the coast of Venezuela? sop 4 hrs ago #14
This one is Greg_In_SF 3 hrs ago #15
The guys on that boat are obviously up to no good, they're clearly not fishermen. sop 3 hrs ago #17
See my reply #23 below. n/t Justice matters. 3 hrs ago #24
Do you like fishing? Botany 3 hrs ago #18
I do like fishing Greg_In_SF 2 hrs ago #27
No doubt. And a certain kind of fishing. Where the boat moves through the water and drags bait behind it.. Botany 2 hrs ago #29
LOL Greg_In_SF 47 min ago #32
Drug traficking does not lead to a death-penalty sentence. Justice matters. 3 hrs ago #23
It is against international law to kill them without solid evidence Iwasthere 2 hrs ago #30
The US is using million dollar missiles to sink small wooden boats w/ Marijuana on them. n/t Jacson6 5 hrs ago #10
They haven't even shown these boats were carrying marijuana. sop 4 hrs ago #13
I doubt anyone is going to all the trouble and expense of smuggling marijuana to the U.S. on boats from Venezuela rollin74 3 hrs ago #16
Marijuana is sold legally in @ least 40 out 50 states and in almost in every state where it is illegal some ... Botany 3 hrs ago #20
This is true. It's legal here in Nevada as well with dispensaries all over the place where I live rollin74 3 hrs ago #21
Although the Marijuana sold in pot shops tends to be too harsh for me. Botany 3 hrs ago #22
I haven't heard anyone Greg_In_SF 2 hrs ago #26
When fascism is toppled via civil war, class war or revolution mlitary and anyone else involved in crimes against yaesu 3 hrs ago #19
Yeah, but in the US of A, they "look forward" now. Justice matters. 3 hrs ago #25
He's just giving the orders...the US military is committing murder. GCG 2 hrs ago #28
Kick BlueWaveNeverEnd 1 hr ago #31
Article doesn't say they were Venezuelan, and it was in the Pacific, so unlikely to be muriel_volestrangler 36 min ago #33

Lovie777

(21,619 posts)
1. It will not stop..............
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 09:23 AM
7 hrs ago

shithole and his comrades want Valenzuela's oil and they will kill for it.

Botany

(76,306 posts)
5. We are producing future Venezuelan Terrorists and very likely 10s of thousands of deaths if
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 09:32 AM
7 hrs ago

the Venezuelans fight back the seizure of THEIR OIL. And some of those dead will be U.S. Military too.
In Sept. of 1939 Hitler invented the lie that Poland had attacked Germany so he had to invade Poland.

I hope all the Western Democracies withdraw their ambassadors to protest these illegal acts by
a mad man undergoing severe cognitive decline.

sop

(17,337 posts)
7. Thirty illegal murderous strikes on alleged "narco terrorists," yet not one shred of evidence? Strange.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 09:56 AM
6 hrs ago

Botany

(76,306 posts)
8. Even IF those boats were carrying drugs there is no way they should end up close to the U.S..
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:04 AM
6 hrs ago

They are open boats that can not go through the open ocean without running the chance of
swamping from waves and rain and they are outboard motor boats that can not go more than
50 miles miles. These attacks are about oil and Epstein.

Also the penalty for drug trafficking is not the death sentence too.

Botany

(76,306 posts)
11. Even if they had totally packed those boats with extra fuel they might be able to get 100 miles or so ..
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:43 AM
5 hrs ago

…. and the tip of Florida is 1,500 miles across the Caribbean. And if the boat was loaded with
fuel where would they keep the drugs?

Nice try.

Greg_In_SF

(836 posts)
12. The drugs
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 12:42 PM
4 hrs ago

are stored in compartments and the fuel is kept in barrels. The boats don't go directly to the US. They go to various Caribbean islands and drop off the drugs there before they eventually reach the US.

This isn't rocket science my friend.

Greg_In_SF

(836 posts)
27. I do like fishing
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 02:28 PM
2 hrs ago

and I do not believe, for one second, that these are fishing boats. Not even close.

Botany

(76,306 posts)
29. No doubt. And a certain kind of fishing. Where the boat moves through the water and drags bait behind it..
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 02:38 PM
2 hrs ago

Justice matters.

(9,311 posts)
23. Drug traficking does not lead to a death-penalty sentence.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 01:49 PM
3 hrs ago

pedo the felon just pardoned a multi-millionaire drug lord, BTW...

rumors say they are up for bribes.

Iwasthere

(3,488 posts)
30. It is against international law to kill them without solid evidence
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 02:53 PM
2 hrs ago

PERIOD! YOU CAN'T KILL ON A GUESS.

Jacson6

(1,750 posts)
10. The US is using million dollar missiles to sink small wooden boats w/ Marijuana on them. n/t
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:17 AM
5 hrs ago

sop

(17,337 posts)
13. They haven't even shown these boats were carrying marijuana.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 12:50 PM
4 hrs ago

They likely would have evidence of half-incinerated bales of weed still floating on the surface after the missile strikes. I remember when "square groupers" (bales of marijuana) would wash up on South Florida beaches, dumped by smugglers to avoid arrest while being chased by the Coast Guard.

rollin74

(2,270 posts)
16. I doubt anyone is going to all the trouble and expense of smuggling marijuana to the U.S. on boats from Venezuela
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 01:01 PM
3 hrs ago

when there is such an enormous amount being grown domestically

Botany

(76,306 posts)
20. Marijuana is sold legally in @ least 40 out 50 states and in almost in every state where it is illegal some ...
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 01:28 PM
3 hrs ago

… cities have legalized it and or it I’d decriminalized. Hell in very red Ohio there are @ least
10 pot shops with in 2 miles of my house. Venezuela does not produce fentanyl and the
vast majority of cocaine produced or transported through Venezuela comes into the United
States via planes, trains, and trucks. Btw Trump just pardoned the biggest importer of cocaine
after undoubtedly a huge pay off.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Map_of_US_state_cannabis_laws.svg

rollin74

(2,270 posts)
21. This is true. It's legal here in Nevada as well with dispensaries all over the place where I live
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 01:35 PM
3 hrs ago

which is exactly why it would make zero sense, financially or otherwise, for it to be smuggled on small boats from Venezuela into the United States

Botany

(76,306 posts)
22. Although the Marijuana sold in pot shops tends to be too harsh for me.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 01:40 PM
3 hrs ago

That is why Jesus invented gummies.



Greg_In_SF

(836 posts)
26. I haven't heard anyone
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 02:14 PM
2 hrs ago

claim that it is marijuana. Cocaine and/or Fentanyl is far more likely.

yaesu

(8,908 posts)
19. When fascism is toppled via civil war, class war or revolution mlitary and anyone else involved in crimes against
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 01:13 PM
3 hrs ago

Humanity Must pay a heavy price.

Justice matters.

(9,311 posts)
25. Yeah, but in the US of A, they "look forward" now.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 01:55 PM
3 hrs ago

Last attempt to bring accountability got stalled in the corrupted justice system until the cheater$ came back.

Even the criminal liar ended up with "immunity" nowhere visible in the Constitution!!

GCG

(27 posts)
28. He's just giving the orders...the US military is committing murder.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 02:35 PM
2 hrs ago

The truth is that Trump isn't murdering anyone...he's ordering the US military to commit murder!

The US military will follow all orders issued by this White House...and if they are ordered to fire on American citizens...they will not hesitate to do so!!!

muriel_volestrangler

(105,502 posts)
33. Article doesn't say they were Venezuelan, and it was in the Pacific, so unlikely to be
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 04:18 PM
36 min ago

The boat hadn't set off from Venezuela, anyway.

Remember it's not just Venezuela Trump is targeting - he's threatening the Colombian president too:

Trump extended his warning to Venezuela’s neighbors, saying Colombian President Gustavo Petro, a leftist who has drawn Trump’s ire after he loudly opposed the boat strikes, was “no friend of the United States.”

“He’s very bad, very bad guy, and he’s got to watch his a--,” Trump said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/us-military-strike-alleged-drug-boat-venezuela-colombia-rcna250614

I mean, in context, that seems a threat of violence against a head of state, to me.
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