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Last edited Wed Feb 25, 2026, 09:33 AM - Edit history (1)
To be unambiguously clear, while I do not support Newsom as a presidential candidate if he officially becomes our candidate for 2028 I will absolutely vote for him.
My point of OPs like this is to highlight there are better candidates out there that better align with Democratic Party values that most in the country, regardless of Party, also agree.
Also saying that Democrats need to be more "culturally normal".
I would argue that at a time when LGBTQ people are feeling more and more hate and more and more states are doing all they can to strip them of their rights, we need to stand up for everyone's right to exist.
Yes, economic issues are important but we shouldn't be throwing our LGBTQ family under the bus to make that point. Our LGBTQ family matters and their concerns are real. Their lived experience is real. They have a right to be treated with equity and equality.
The Democratic Party are "culturally normal" and it's the Republican party that are on the fringe, protecting and promoting pedophiles and murderers.
Reference:
https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/23/politics/video/inside-politics-gavin-newsom-two
msongs
(73,406 posts)leftstreet
(39,838 posts)Anyone not black, female, gay, trans...is normal? wt actual f
RobinA
(10,478 posts)Let's talk about stuff the majority of Democratic voters can get behind instead of hot button issues that drive people away. Pronouns et.al can be debated while we're in office, but first we need to get there.
leftstreet
(39,838 posts)and comms people
Bless his heart, but he's a decade too late for these admonishments. People AREN'T talking (or joking) about pronouns. They ARE talking about their $300 utility bills. They're talking about medical costs, unaffordable rents, etc.
No one's waiting for someone to get in office to talk "cultural issues."
Identity politics - dead
Class politics - alive
Ferrets are Cool
(22,690 posts)Oneironaut
(6,260 posts)Theyll accuse Democrats of deflecting. The evil amongst us would suggest that, to prevent this, Democrats should completely cave on trans rights and adopt the Republican position that trans people shouldnt exist at all, and,
society should eradicate trans people entirely. Its the only solution to stopping the trans rights debate.
We dont have a choice to debate trans rights or not. Republicans are the ones who wont leave it alone. Therefore, Democrats need to get consistent and form a plan to approach this topic.
AStern
(795 posts)Hearing Newsome repeating those talking points is disappointing.
Johonny
(25,888 posts)But really who the fuck is normal on the other side of the aisle?
gab13by13
(31,817 posts)Take politics out of it.
When Jack Smith can't get confirmed as AG, then Malcolm can make him acting AG, and when his term expires appoint another acting AG.
unblock
(56,122 posts)Huge problems facing hundreds of millions yet they are obsessed with children's genitials in high schools sports and public bathrooms and they want to take rights away to make their ethnic cleansing easier.
As walz said, they are *weird*.
yorkster
(3,757 posts)Yeah, of course I'll support the eventual nominee if I'm still around.
LuvLoogie
(8,708 posts)Christo-capitalist consumerism.
Happy Dollar Days!
RobinA
(10,478 posts)Look, I'll call anybody by any pronoun they want. But some people get freaked out by it and it drives them and their vote away. The idea is to win the next election and the big one after that. We can't get what we want done if we aren't in office, we'll just righteous losers living in MAGAWorld.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,770 posts)calguy
(6,119 posts)Democrats need to figure out how to appeal to the people who didnt vote for us in past elections. That means not driving away potential voters who agree with us on most issues, but will not vote for us if we keep pushing one minority issue they are adamantly against.
I wont name any of the minority issues I have in mind d, because doing so would ignite a flood of posts accusing me of hating one group or another. Ive had several of my posts removed in the past because some folks are over sensitive about their pet issues, so I just dont express my opinions one those matters anymore on DU.
There are often better ways to address a concern when we find the bits that are common and hammer those to build a new approach. Hammering hot buttons has gone on long enough, IMHO. I'm starting to lose focus myself, as I'm do mad about things all the time now. If feels like all I do is react and plot, rather than plan and aspire. Who really wants to hang with a reactionary? Feels miserable. What can we find to get excited about beyond what appeals exclusively to us?
Wednesdays
(22,209 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(22,690 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(22,657 posts)Comments like this might help him get endorsements from centrists, Third Wayers and Problem Solvers, but it will not help him win primaries.
uponit7771
(93,523 posts)Iris
(16,863 posts)misanthrope
(9,456 posts)There are lots of them and they vary state to state, region to region in a nation this large.
TexasBushwhacker
(21,156 posts)Seriously, HE needs to stick to the issues that are important to the Democratic party and that includes LGBTQ. Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, shit like this is what ALIENATES some our most dedicated Democratic base!
LearnedHand
(5,334 posts)lol perfect description.
BannonsLiver
(20,391 posts)I know people around here dont want to hear that, but alas, its true.
JI7
(93,410 posts)about our position on certain issues. Focus on getting our people in the courts so when cases come up we can win there .
Trump did it with abortion where he refused to be clear about his position.
Scrivener7
(59,167 posts)we can learn something from them. We don't have to talk about all of it during election season.
Not talking about it in election season will allow us to safeguard it once we are elected.
Just as they said, "No, I don't know nothin' about fascism and Project 2025," we can say, "I don't know nothin' about expanding and safeguarding civil rights for all."
Vinca
(53,667 posts)Newsom shouldn't fall into their trap. Don't blame Democrats, blame Republicans. We just want everyone to be able to use the damn bathroom.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,690 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(15,541 posts)I, for one, am tired of it.
Whiskeytide
(4,649 posts)
throwing our LGBTQ community under the bus and falling into the rebublicans trap of divisive identity politics. I know more than a few voters, in the South especially, that decide how to vote based on cultural issues. They dont like the current Republican party much at all, but they just cant bring themselves to vote contrary to these deep prejudices that have been drilled into them since birth. For many of them, its not that cultural issues are more important than other issues, its simply that they dont see enough separation between the two parties on non-cultural issues.
In a perfect world, we shouldnt need their votes to get elected to office - but the reality is that we do. At the very least, we need them to stop voting against us.
I think Democratic candidates can express support for the LGBTQ community without letting MSM interviewers and opposition candidates make it all about culture. Create clear separation on economic issues, and most voters will be much less concerned over pronouns and drag queens.
fujiyamasan
(1,476 posts)The last several presidential nominees were pretty normal, especially in comparison with the brain rotted pedophile thats president now.
The problem with our side is we have a grifter class. Its basically a group of consultants and its a revolving door with so called not for profits that drift in and out as advisors. Sometimes they claim to represent various groups, and then candidates feel compelled to cater to them. In the past there was also an inclination to use language better suited for academic settings, that seeped its way into democratic politics. Latinx, critical race theory, cis gender
just a few examples. Very few use these terms in real life. But the right has a field day with all of them.
Take Harris comments from the ad in the last election over transgender surgeries for inmates. It was from the 2020, primaries where candidates were tripping to out woke each other. This was a good example of a complete self own. Harris could have simply kept an ambiguous position about it, or simply chose to avoid talking much about it. Instead she bragged about it. We also saw absurd accusations during those primaries that Obama was the deporter in chief, while in reality he was simply enforcing immigration law.
In short, our candidates are a hell of a lot more culturally normal than the pedophile party. Unless were seeing our culture itself so fucked to the point where pedophilia is normalized, which is what the other side is trying to do (see Megyn Kellys comments).
Wanderlust988
(771 posts)And yes, I was at a job that did ask everyone to give their preferred pronouns. Like anything, when people are being asked or forced to do something like that, that has nothing to do with the job, some can get upset....especially in areas of the country where people don't deal with a lot of trans people. This led to the backlash, I think.
Scrivener7
(59,167 posts)numbers to choose for your name. Can you tell us what they stand for?
The question was originally asked in your thread saying Newsom said something he never said. I didn't see any answer.
JoseBalow
(9,411 posts)Posting history tells a story, I would hope MIRT could do something.
Wanderlust988
(771 posts)Scrivener7
(59,167 posts)Glad to hear it. It would be vile if it were intentional.
Wanderlust988
(771 posts)BannonsLiver
(20,391 posts)
Scrivener7
(59,167 posts)And then get tricked into posting maga propaganda. Really a shame.
Wanderlust988
(771 posts)Torchlight
(6,642 posts)Good luck
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,770 posts)Bettie
(19,533 posts)Miss, Mrs. and later Ms.
The same people who are angry about pronouns, were angry about Ms.
And, it is right wingers who whine about that, most normal people acknowledge and move on....it's literally basic politeness: calling people what they prefer to be called.
If someone's name is Robert and he prefers Bob, just call him Bob! If someone prefers to be referred to as "they" rather than he or she, do that. You never hear people whining about that sort of thing, so they CAN adjust, they simply choose not to.
Bettie
(19,533 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 25, 2026, 02:14 PM - Edit history (1)
He says the party should be "less prone to spending disproportionate amount of time on pronouns, identity politics. More focused on tabletop issues, things that really matter".
Except we don't scream endlessly about those things, we simply call people by the pronouns they prefer and treat them with respect.
It is Republicans who spend disproportionate time on these issues.
It annoys me that people use this as a way to denigrate Democrats who aren't the ones screaming about it 24/7.
MustLoveBeagles
(15,541 posts)RainCaster
(13,565 posts)To them, this is a settled issue, and all are accepted and loved just the way they are. So let's just add that to our platform and move on. The few who dislike this stance will never vote for a Democrat anyhow.
Mz Pip
(28,414 posts)Republicans have done a good job of painting Democrats as being only focused on what many people in the country consider fringe issues. Democrats need to be able change that narrative.
Thats what I think hes trying to say.
Soul_of_Wit
(65 posts)Democrats are the victim of the Republican framing of any issue being accepted without question by everyone from liberals to the media to MAGA.
bucolic_frolic
(54,754 posts)Trump would never have been elected in 2016 if we hadn't led with same sex bathrooms. It alarmed people, particularly blue collar. The issue was tolerance, not remaking identities. Gender change emerged as an issue in 2024. Again, tolerance, Christian inclusion. We got pasted again.
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Oneironaut
(6,260 posts)The Democrats lead with same sex bathrooms in 2016? Do you mean trans people in bathrooms, which we have been using for over 30 years without any controversy? Not only did Clinton barely talk about trans people, but, I dont remember Republicans talking about us much either. At least no where near as much.
Also, blaming trans people for Trump winning is absolutely wrong. Youre falling for propaganda. If trans people stopped existing suddenly, they would have found some other wedge issue. You would have more of an argument for Trump winning in 2024 because of trans people, but, thats also incorrect. The real issue is that Democrats did not control the narrative enough. There were other issues wrong as well that lead to Trump winning.
JustAnotherGen
(37,891 posts)Go after the white magapub votes vibe.
They can't be moved. That 30/31% of Magapubs who approve of this idiot can never be moved. I'd go so far as to say that in the midterm - the Magapubs will tap on the Green / Stein (she popped up from her evil lair yesterday) to push Green/Marxist/Anarchist voters and find something to make the Magapub voters of 2024 TERRIFIED for the midterms.
That's NOT where it's at. We are starting to see first time PRIMARY voters this year. Non Voters and lackadaisical voters are where it's at. Magapubs are garbage.
Initech
(108,303 posts)MAGAs are the ones who need to be more "culturally normal". Their idea of fun is attending expensive black tie galas at Trump's disgusting shithole.
I go to punk rock and metal concerts. The tickets cost $50 and you don't need to wear a tuxedo or a ball gown.
Bobstandard
(2,231 posts)Its a lot easier to tear down someone than build up someone else, a candidate you support, for instance. Democrats are great at the circular firing squad.
Johonny
(25,888 posts)Voters. I.E. people that think all democrats do all day is create new pronouns and teach their dog to be a vegan.
It's not a message toward or for the Democratic base, but the 2 to 6 percent swing vote he needs to win in 2028. It's shit that sounds great on Bill Maher's show, but actual democratic voters shrug and know they are fucking normal and don't have porn watch buddies or are featured in the Epstein files.
Ritabert
(2,242 posts)His Trump trolling is amusing but we don't need anybody who advocates marginalizing other groups.
CTyankee
(68,024 posts)him? And why doesn't he get this himself?
I'm losing hope for him....geez...
BannonsLiver
(20,391 posts)
Oneironaut
(6,260 posts)There is no such thing as normal. There is only cis, white, heteronormativity, which our society values over all others.
I dont trust anyone who thinks LGBTQIA+ people are an inconvenience.
Cherrycheeks
(314 posts)Everyone I know who says both parties are the same or who don't vote any more say,those issues don't help them. I know many who say every time there is an election becomes about personal matters not about jobs,money or housing.