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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, guess who had a Trump card to play against Trump?
I am busting a gut with laughter.
The US is going to Ukraine to ask for help to fight against Iranian drones, since Ukraine has experience with this form of warfare.
Zelenskyy is a diplomat. I know inside he's saying: Who holds all the cards now, mother fucker?
But on the outside he's going to play his cards to benefit his people. So, in the end Trump will be forced to hand over the muleta to Zelenskyy to perform the estocada on Russia.
How poetic.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,820 posts)Or just more/enough money/arms to get the job done?
Of course, if Orban loses his election next month, and the EU loan goes through, Zelensky wont need the US at all.
Baitball Blogger
(52,128 posts)Can we give them arms, when we need them in Iran?
Not sure if weapons are even on the bargaining table. But exchange of information might be a thing.
In the end, the NATO allies will be the bull who holds the cape while both Trump and Putin are kneeling and begging for mercy.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,820 posts)Trump and Putin will be the bulls.
Baitball Blogger
(52,128 posts)And I like plots where the hunted becomes the hunter.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,820 posts)The metaphor escaped me,
ananda
(34,835 posts)A LOT
FarPoint
(14,701 posts)We all know how to be a bit passive aggressive when we have to be...
Me, as a true "Walking Dead "Fan..... Just like Eugene helped make bullets for Negan to fight Rick....made some good ones with majority all exploding in the gun chamber....
Baitball Blogger
(52,128 posts)Goonch
(4,684 posts)
Baitball Blogger
(52,128 posts)Trump finding out what Democrats have known since the Revolutionary War times.
James48
(5,162 posts)Baitball Blogger
(52,128 posts)Might trigger Zelenskyy in the negotiations.
peggysue2
(12,488 posts)Ukraine has reportedly changed the face of war with their drone innovation, production and use on the battlefield. Ukrainian drones have proved cheap to produce, nimble and absolutely deadly. Of course, they had no choice because Russia was lobbing hundreds of Iranian drones on the Ukrainian population.
But this! This is too, too delicious. After all of Trump's treachery and insults, the fact that the United States is seeking Ukrainian help with drone warfare is beyond ironic. Also a reminder why allies are important particularly in wartime.
Who has the leverage now, Donnie?
Jay25
(437 posts)Iran was not a threat to the US yet was attacked, just as Ukraine was attacked. Zelensky humbled himself to the world in order to get assistance for the defense of his country. And now, Ukraine is offering to assist a country who decided to attack a country out of the blue, like they were attacked.
This is a world without moral or value, and none of it makes any sense to me.
Raven123
(7,741 posts)Lonestarblue
(13,421 posts)Baitball Blogger
(52,128 posts)FarPoint
(14,701 posts)a true winning bet on that action..... No matter if help given in sincere....Zelinsky can play it smart...save face....
ChicagoTeamster
(766 posts)But, I'm now wondering if part of the reason why Hegseth kept trying to block weapons shipments for Ukraine is because they knew the Iran war was being secretly planned and they wanted as many weapons as possible.
Baitball Blogger
(52,128 posts)Trump will be known as the ultimate Manchurian president. Even fooled the MAGAs.
BComplex
(9,857 posts)Iran into oblivion for decades. In repayment for helping trump in stealing the 2024 election, and in response for not releasing the full mossad version of the epstein files, I'm sure trump has known since his own election that this was going to be the payback.
NoMoreRepugs
(11,960 posts)gfarber
(253 posts)There once was a plea from the West,
To Kyiv, by drone-wars well-versed,
Zelenskyy thought, Huh
Whos bluffing now, bruh?
But smiled like a diplomat first.
He played every card for his land,
While louder men blustered and planned,
Till Trump, with a sweep,
Passed the matadors cape
Your turn for the estocada at hand.
A quiet, strategic display:
The bull still is Russia in play,
And while crowds roar and bark,
The blade finds its mark
How strangely poetic, youd say.
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Baitball Blogger
(52,128 posts)Wicked Blue
(8,818 posts)With his track record, we just can't trust him.
WestMichRad
(3,177 posts)Zelenskyy should make certain that some Ukrainian intelligence on combatting aerial drones isnt shared, because we know TSF will share information with Putin.
Obliterating Irans drone production facilities should be a precondition, also.