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Baitball Blogger

(52,128 posts)
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 09:58 AM 3 hrs ago

So, guess who had a Trump card to play against Trump?

I am busting a gut with laughter.

The US is going to Ukraine to ask for help to fight against Iranian drones, since Ukraine has experience with this form of warfare.

Zelenskyy is a diplomat. I know inside he's saying: Who holds all the cards now, mother fucker?

But on the outside he's going to play his cards to benefit his people. So, in the end Trump will be forced to hand over the muleta to Zelenskyy to perform the estocada on Russia.

How poetic.

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So, guess who had a Trump card to play against Trump? (Original Post) Baitball Blogger 3 hrs ago OP
Did you have a specific muleta in mind? Fiendish Thingy 3 hrs ago #1
I am actually curious, myself. Baitball Blogger 3 hrs ago #2
I think you meant NATO will be the bullfighter? Fiendish Thingy 3 hrs ago #3
I was looking at it from Trump's perspective. Baitball Blogger 3 hrs ago #4
Oh. Fiendish Thingy 3 hrs ago #5
Money. Zelensky should ask for a LOT of money for this. ananda 2 hrs ago #9
He didn't say that his folks would do a good job.... FarPoint 1 hr ago #17
Not so funny in this case. Baitball Blogger 1 hr ago #20
;-{) ..... Goonch 3 hrs ago #6
LOL! Baitball Blogger 2 hrs ago #7
Will he say "Thank you?" James48 2 hrs ago #8
Well, Trump usually wears his suits, but I hope he ditches the MAGA hat. Baitball Blogger 2 hrs ago #10
I've been waiting for this peggysue2 2 hrs ago #11
Hmmm. Jay25 2 hrs ago #12
I fear for Ukraine. If Trump can, he will screw them Raven123 1 hr ago #13
Exactly. He will promise many things and deliver nothing. Lonestarblue 1 hr ago #14
See comment #17 from Farpoint. Baitball Blogger 59 min ago #21
Trump always screws folks over.... FarPoint 54 min ago #24
It will be to Ukraine's advantage to face fewer Iranian drones so stopping them in Iran helps politically and militarily ChicagoTeamster 1 hr ago #15
My thoughts exactly. Baitball Blogger 57 min ago #22
I'm sure Netanyahu has all the Epstein files, and he has wanted the US to bomb BComplex 11 min ago #26
Payment, whatever form that takes, first - then help TrumpenFuhrer or else Ukraine will get screwed. NoMoreRepugs 1 hr ago #16
Zelenskyy's Diplomacy gfarber 1 hr ago #18
Damn. I'm humbled. Baitball Blogger 55 min ago #23
I worry that Orange Traitor will turn around and sell it to Putin Wicked Blue 1 hr ago #19
Absolutely this! WestMichRad 38 min ago #25

Fiendish Thingy

(22,820 posts)
1. Did you have a specific muleta in mind?
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 10:14 AM
3 hrs ago

Or just more/enough money/arms to get the job done?

Of course, if Orban loses his election next month, and the EU loan goes through, Zelensky won’t need the US at all.

Baitball Blogger

(52,128 posts)
2. I am actually curious, myself.
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 10:19 AM
3 hrs ago

Can we give them arms, when we need them in Iran?

Not sure if weapons are even on the bargaining table. But exchange of information might be a thing.

In the end, the NATO allies will be the bull who holds the cape while both Trump and Putin are kneeling and begging for mercy.

Baitball Blogger

(52,128 posts)
4. I was looking at it from Trump's perspective.
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 10:23 AM
3 hrs ago

And I like plots where the hunted becomes the hunter.

FarPoint

(14,701 posts)
17. He didn't say that his folks would do a good job....
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 12:19 PM
1 hr ago

We all know how to be a bit passive aggressive when we have to be...

Me, as a true "Walking Dead "Fan..... Just like Eugene helped make bullets for Negan to fight Rick....made some good ones with majority all exploding in the gun chamber....

Baitball Blogger

(52,128 posts)
10. Well, Trump usually wears his suits, but I hope he ditches the MAGA hat.
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 10:54 AM
2 hrs ago

Might trigger Zelenskyy in the negotiations.

peggysue2

(12,488 posts)
11. I've been waiting for this
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 11:15 AM
2 hrs ago

Ukraine has reportedly changed the face of war with their drone innovation, production and use on the battlefield. Ukrainian drones have proved cheap to produce, nimble and absolutely deadly. Of course, they had no choice because Russia was lobbing hundreds of Iranian drones on the Ukrainian population.

But this! This is too, too delicious. After all of Trump's treachery and insults, the fact that the United States is seeking Ukrainian help with drone warfare is beyond ironic. Also a reminder why allies are important particularly in wartime.

Who has the leverage now, Donnie?

Jay25

(437 posts)
12. Hmmm.
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 11:29 AM
2 hrs ago

Iran was not a threat to the US yet was attacked, just as Ukraine was attacked. Zelensky humbled himself to the world in order to get assistance for the defense of his country. And now, Ukraine is offering to assist a country who decided to attack a country out of the blue, like they were attacked.
This is a world without moral or value, and none of it makes any sense to me.

FarPoint

(14,701 posts)
24. Trump always screws folks over....
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 12:44 PM
54 min ago

a true winning bet on that action..... No matter if help given in sincere....Zelinsky can play it smart...save face....

ChicagoTeamster

(766 posts)
15. It will be to Ukraine's advantage to face fewer Iranian drones so stopping them in Iran helps politically and militarily
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 12:16 PM
1 hr ago

But, I'm now wondering if part of the reason why Hegseth kept trying to block weapons shipments for Ukraine is because they knew the Iran war was being secretly planned and they wanted as many weapons as possible.

Baitball Blogger

(52,128 posts)
22. My thoughts exactly.
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 12:41 PM
57 min ago

Trump will be known as the ultimate Manchurian president. Even fooled the MAGAs.

BComplex

(9,857 posts)
26. I'm sure Netanyahu has all the Epstein files, and he has wanted the US to bomb
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 01:27 PM
11 min ago

Iran into oblivion for decades. In repayment for helping trump in stealing the 2024 election, and in response for not releasing the full mossad version of the epstein files, I'm sure trump has known since his own election that this was going to be the payback.

NoMoreRepugs

(11,960 posts)
16. Payment, whatever form that takes, first - then help TrumpenFuhrer or else Ukraine will get screwed.
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 12:17 PM
1 hr ago

gfarber

(253 posts)
18. Zelenskyy's Diplomacy
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 12:21 PM
1 hr ago


There once was a plea from the West,
To Kyiv, by drone-wars well-versed,
Zelenskyy thought, “Huh—
Who’s bluffing now, bruh?”
But smiled like a diplomat first.

He played every card for his land,
While louder men blustered and planned,
Till Trump, with a sweep,
Passed the matador’s cape—
“Your turn for the estocada at hand.”

A quiet, strategic display:
The bull still is Russia in play,
And while crowds roar and bark,
The blade finds its mark—
How strangely poetic, you’d say.

© 2026 Glen Farber. All Rights Reserved.

Wicked Blue

(8,818 posts)
19. I worry that Orange Traitor will turn around and sell it to Putin
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 12:33 PM
1 hr ago

With his track record, we just can't trust him.

WestMichRad

(3,177 posts)
25. Absolutely this!
Thu Mar 5, 2026, 01:00 PM
38 min ago

Zelenskyy should make certain that some Ukrainian intelligence on combatting aerial drones isn’t shared, because we know TSF will share information with Putin.

Obliterating Iran’s drone production facilities should be a precondition, also.

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