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What hes doing is what I call toxic hovering. The good ole boys use it to great effect. Here, locally, when there was a community scandal which I was vocal about, I experienced it. I would go to a public place like a book store or restaurant and I would notice someone I didnt even know staring too hard. Within 15 minutes my neighbor, who was heavily invested in keeping me quiet would suddenly show up and glare at me. The scariest was when he sat down across from me at a large table. The glaring left no doubt why he was there. Its an intimidation tactic:
gab13by13
(32,318 posts)Ray Bruns
(6,362 posts)wcmagumba
(6,178 posts)or the Pips..."pip pip and cheerio, guv'nor"...
Baitball Blogger
(52,344 posts)On Kavanaugh he probably has all that information to confirm he was a sexual predator.
On Clarence Thomas, probably all kinds of information regarding the acceptance of bribes.
On the others, could be information on family members.
He's the president who wasn't shy about taking classified documents to Mar o Lago. Some of that information probably involved blackmail material.
calimary
(90,017 posts)Definitely would be much more appropriate.
IbogaProject
(5,913 posts)Getting a majority vote through congress and then 67 votes in the senate is a tough endeavor with our current polarization. Now Cheetolini may think he can blackmail those justices but it doesn't mean they will even blink let alone rule in any way but in support of our wealthy elites.
GoCubsGo
(34,914 posts)And unfortunately, most of the people he'll be glaring at are abject cowards. It's a shame they won't glare right back at him.
Easterncedar
(6,267 posts)But its an old move. Remember when he stalked Hillary on the debate stage? What a vile thing he is.
TheRickles
(3,384 posts)If she had turned around to face him and said "What are you doing?", we wouldn't be here now.
niyad
(132,440 posts)the pressure. Weak and afraid." Notice how little criticism or calling out there was by our gutless, misogynist society.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,402 posts)The media never misses an opportunity to bash Hillary.
MurrayDelph
(5,752 posts)but in my dreams, she said "Back off, creep!"
33taw
(3,343 posts)orangecrush
(30,256 posts)flashman13
(2,403 posts)told him, "You can say anything about me, but don't you dare insult my wife or I'll whip your fat ass", he would have been the nominee and possibly President.
mucifer
(25,667 posts)SergeStorms
(20,591 posts)It'd be like John Gotti staring at one particular juror for his entire trial.
Trump thinks he's a mob boss and acts like one. Intimidation is his forte. He'll release his flying MAGAts on any justice who doesn't give him what he wants.
Chasstev365
(7,798 posts)CousinIT
(12,539 posts)before the 2016 election.
johnnyplankton
(635 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 1, 2026, 09:33 AM - Edit history (1)
But I don't think that will sway the justices...
3Hotdogs
(15,368 posts)Goonch
(5,055 posts)
Irish_Dem
(81,262 posts)FakeNoose
(41,631 posts)
Prairie Gates
(8,155 posts)
Irish_Dem
(81,262 posts)Ilsa
(64,368 posts)Clinton in 2016. He wandered around the stage behind her while she was answering a debate question.
More sociopathic, bullying behavior. I wonder if he will interrupt the hearing.
chicago guy
(48 posts)I could understand trying to play mind games in a lower court, but this group of fools can not be toyed with they are there with a life sentence
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PCIntern
(28,366 posts)Da fuk you lookin at? Is my response
orangecrush
(30,256 posts)Or direct eye contact and "Can I help you, motherfucker?"
3Hotdogs
(15,368 posts)during the oral arguments.
eShirl
(20,255 posts)He thinks he can dominate a co-equal branch of government.
ananda
(35,143 posts)Period
slightlv
(7,790 posts)about his being there. To me, this is not only an intimidation technique, but it's a *one branch* of the government interfering and intimidating a *separate and equal branch* of government. Has there ever been another instance where the president sat in on SCOTUS hearings? Somebody give that kid a binky, and put him to bed with a clean diaper!
evemac
(321 posts)with Hilary - he literally stalked her during the debate. I am sure it's an attempt at intimidation.
Toxic hovering is a perfect way to describe it!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/oct/10/donald-trump-behind-hillary-clinton-debate-video
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/upcoming-book-clinton-says-skin-crawled-trump-hovered-debate
MLWR
(1,025 posts)Ray Bruns
(6,362 posts)AverageOldGuy
(3,833 posts)Yours is nominated as Comment of the Week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My daughter is one of those high-powered DC attorneys, member of the SCOTUS bar, has sat 2d or 3d chair for a couple of SCOTUS arguments. She says it's so damn quiet in there much of the audience has trouble staying awake.
The "arguments" are not exactly scintillating theater that brings the audience to their feet in cheers.
Farmer-Rick
(12,667 posts)He will glare and make faces.... maybe even attempt to interject.....in the first 10 minutes. Then when he finds out he can't ramble and speechify, he'll cross his arms and fall asleep.
The falling asleep takes away from the intimidation. It makes him look like a dottering old fool, NOT a mobster in a TV role.
TNNurse
(7,541 posts)Hopefully, he will fall asleep, maybe snore.
Ocelot II
(130,533 posts)But it's likely to backfire. They'll know that's what he's doing and they won't like it (with the possible exceptions of Alito and Thomas, who always roll over for him anyhow). They weren't afraid to rule against him on his pet project, tariffs, and I doubt that seeing his glowering ugly orange face in the courtroom will influence them in his favor. It might even piss them off and remind them (or most of them) that he's not their boss, however much he wants them to believe it. I don't think even Alito and Thomas think he's their boss; they're just fascists all by themselves.
Blue Owl
(59,099 posts)Wonder Why
(7,024 posts)AverageOldGuy
(3,833 posts)They close the doors at 9:55, hearing starts at 10:00.
If he disrupts the hearing will they remove him from the room?
CapnSteve
(405 posts)Literally and figuratively.
33taw
(3,343 posts)leaving at 9:40. On edit: He has entered the courtroom.
MustLoveBeagles
(16,402 posts)I don't remember a President ever doing this before.
allegorical oracle
(6,480 posts)support birthright citizenship -- with The Don sitting there.
bmichaelh
(1,181 posts)This happened in the TV Series The Wire.
High ranking members of the criminal organization are in the courtroom during a murder trial.
The witness feel intimidated.
Trump is trying to intimidate the justices, especially the ones he appointed.
Thomas does not need intimidation; he will vote anyway Trump wants him to.
orangecrush
(30,256 posts)In the debate.

usonian
(25,313 posts)And to glare
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Like Frank Nitti.
milestogo
(23,082 posts)bluestarone
(22,177 posts)While TSF was sitting there!!
Scubamatt
(307 posts)how/why it has taken so long for the media and the public to figure the orange td out. All of this is standard mafia/bully tactics.
no_hypocrisy
(54,906 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(179,847 posts)If his radical gambit is likely to lose, why bother with an unprecedented presidential appearance at the high court? There are two prevailing explanations.
Link to tweet
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/why-trump-attending-supreme-court-birthright-citizenship-arguments
President Donald Trump will be watching oral arguments today as the Supreme Court weighs whether the president holds the power to end birthright citizenship. [ ]
Trumps presence at the court is significant. He will be the first known sitting U.S. president to attend oral arguments before the high court, according to the Supreme Court Historical Society.
By way of explanation, the president told reporters on Tuesday that he intended to sit in on oral arguments because I have listened to this argument for so long. (A day later, Im not entirely sure what that was supposed to mean.)....
So why bother with an unprecedented presidential appearance at the high court? There are two prevailing explanations though theyre not mutually exclusive, and both could be true.
The first is that this is part of a ham-fisted intimidation campaign: By literally showing up in person, its possible that Trump, who appointed a third of the courts justices, thinks he can apply extra pressure to those who will decide the cases fate.
If this is the goal, the president is likely to be disappointed. Unlike congressional Republicans, justices dont want to be seen as obedient White House loyalists, and its easy to imagine Trumps stunt backfiring.
The other theory is that Trump recognizes the fact that the Supreme Court wont let him rewrite constitutional law through an executive order, so he went to oral arguments as a political tactic intended to deliver an anti-immigrant message which the White House sees as more politically salient than other issues that are dominating the public conversation, such as the war with Iran and high gas prices.
The big thing for Trump is to be seen putting up a fight, Politico noted. This policy always a Hail Mary from a legal perspective is as much about signaling to the presidents base as it is a serious attempt to change the law.
Whatever the explanation, if the president expects his order to be upheld, he probably ought to start lowering his expectations. Watch this space.
Maj. Dude
(48 posts)They should just park his ass in the corner, in a kiddie pool and get him a happy meal and exclude the catsup.
Smackdown2019
(1,358 posts)He usually loses in court, so nothing new to him....