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pat_k

(13,818 posts)
Wed May 6, 2026, 11:42 AM 18 hrs ago

Said it before. Will say it again: There is NO WAY OUT with the Felon in the WH

So now he's "paused" effort to reopen the strait??

Figured out that it's impossible to escort all those ginormous ships?

Trumpublicans need to face reality.

He is incapable of negotiating.

His demands will never be met.

The Iranian regime cares not for the suffering of it's people. No amount of bombing will "win" this war as long as IRGC and Basij with jet skis and cheap drones can inflict damage on neighbors, oil tankers, and container ships.

The only "out" is surrender and reparations -- and epic humiliation.-- which he will NEVER allow.

The magnitude of the damage to this nation and the world done by his criminal Iran insanity will escalate every week as the year progresses.

Republicans are in denial. They have their fingers in their ears, singing "la la la." The creatures are hanging on to the fantasy that the felon's criminal war on Iran will magically come to an end and things will "snap back" to some sort of tolerable trumpian business as usual.

But that will NEVER happen with the felon in the White House. There is no out with Trump in power.

He IS the crisis.

The ONLY way to end the crisis is if he leaves.

If enough of them wake up and see this reality we'll see an effort to push him out. A push to resign for "health reasons" or some face saving bullshit.

Resignation is not outside the realm of possibility.

If that does come to pass, they'll find they left it to long. It's too late. Many, many Republican careers are over. The party can't "live down" this level of chaos and destruction. And they only have themselves to blame.

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Said it before. Will say it again: There is NO WAY OUT with the Felon in the WH (Original Post) pat_k 18 hrs ago OP
Turns out a guy who can't admit he lost an election is no shit like really problematic BeyondGeography 18 hrs ago #1
Well said! c-rational 18 hrs ago #3
Roy Cohn taught him well. Back down? Hell NO! Double-down!! pat_k 10 hrs ago #18
Very bleak picture. But very much a part of our current reality. magicarpet 18 hrs ago #2
I'm not sure replacing trump with another (r)zealot will solve anything. erronis 18 hrs ago #4
The ONLY thing it would change is that Vance would suck it up and make the humiliating deal. pat_k 18 hrs ago #6
He just a lifelong loser Whip-poor-will 18 hrs ago #5
A corrupt and cruel troll whose every scheme for domination ultimately backfires. pat_k 17 hrs ago #7
Apparently, the Iranian regime odins folly 17 hrs ago #8
Iranian officials and negotiators know the U.S. negotiators are incompetent liars. pat_k 14 hrs ago #15
less than 3 years to go... time is flying WarGamer 17 hrs ago #9
I think the stress of this nightmare term is sending... pat_k 16 hrs ago #13
Yes, I agree with this 100%. Initech 16 hrs ago #10
Frankly, I wouldn't mind being wrong, but fear I'm not. pat_k 16 hrs ago #12
Iran lives, and Islam lives, MAGAs are crestfallen, or in Trump's case, neck-wattlefallen. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 16 hrs ago #11
Getting rid of him just puts a bandaid on a shotgun wound. The republicans need to get spanked hard in the elections Cheezoholic 15 hrs ago #14
Of course! But at least Vance would suck it up and make the humiliating deal pat_k 14 hrs ago #17
They'll let it drag out until next January if they can. meadowlander 14 hrs ago #16

pat_k

(13,818 posts)
18. Roy Cohn taught him well. Back down? Hell NO! Double-down!!
Wed May 6, 2026, 07:58 PM
10 hrs ago
Link

. . .
. . Cohn imparted an M.O. that’s been on searing display throughout Trump’s ascent, his divisive, captivating campaign, and his fraught, unprecedented presidency. Deflect and distract, never give in, never admit fault, lie and attack, lie and attack, publicity no matter what, win no matter what, all underpinned by a deep, prove-me-wrong belief in the power of chaos and fear.
. . .

erronis

(24,404 posts)
4. I'm not sure replacing trump with another (r)zealot will solve anything.
Wed May 6, 2026, 11:57 AM
18 hrs ago

With SCOTUS and congress owned by the anti-democratic powers they will make sure whoever sits at the Resolute desk will follow their orders.

pat_k

(13,818 posts)
6. The ONLY thing it would change is that Vance would suck it up and make the humiliating deal.
Wed May 6, 2026, 12:09 PM
18 hrs ago

Last edited Wed May 6, 2026, 12:48 PM - Edit history (1)

He is the most unpopular leader in the world. He's not fooling himself that he's getting the Republican nomination.

Or he is fooling himself, but would make the humiliating deal and hate the felon so much over forcing him into the position -- and blowing any shot -- that he releases ALL the Epstein documents, audio, and video with perpetrators unredacted.

Stranger things have happened.

pat_k

(13,818 posts)
7. A corrupt and cruel troll whose every scheme for domination ultimately backfires.
Wed May 6, 2026, 12:54 PM
17 hrs ago

Tragically, the planet is suffering the consequences.

odins folly

(628 posts)
8. Apparently, the Iranian regime
Wed May 6, 2026, 01:18 PM
17 hrs ago

Has not seen the documentary video of dear leader’s negotiating prowess so deftly displayed during his years on the apprentice. How rich and powerful and persuasive he is!!!!!

Maybe we should send a whole bunch of his books, the art of the deal, so they can read the first hand accounts of his enormous influence in business and everything else he has laid his giant commanding hands upon. Surely they will then know the might to which they must, must I tell you, bow down to his existential power and and command of all things.

pat_k

(13,818 posts)
15. Iranian officials and negotiators know the U.S. negotiators are incompetent liars.
Wed May 6, 2026, 03:34 PM
14 hrs ago

While I would not normally give much credit to statements from the Iranian regime, knowing who they are dealing with, and under whose orders the trumpublican worms are operating, I think we can bet the statements are spot on.

Time, 4/16
https://time.com/article/2026/04/15/diplomats-fear-trump-iran-envoys-kushner-witkoff-nuclear/

They are clueless on the basics

According to UK-based outlet Amwaj, citing unnamed Iranian sources, Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi explained the stages of nuclear fuel production and the difference between an enrichment facility and a reactor to Witkoff on several occasions during the negotiation in Muscat.


4/20, Deccan Herald (India, but generally considered reputable)

https://www.deccanherald.com/world/middle-east/endless-hypocritical-rhetoric-iranian-president-pezeshkian-slams-us-lists-negotiation-obstacles-newsalert-3977716

Even as US President Donald Trump extended the ceasefire with Iran hoping for a peace proposal, his Iranian counterpart Masoud Pezeshkian has said that threats, blockades and breach of commitments will hinder genuine negotiations. In a post on X Wednesday, he also lashed out without naming the US President for his "hypocritical rhetoric" and contradictory claims and actions.


5/1 @dropsitenews
Iranian official are seriously questioning the competence of the U.S. negotiating team, with officials describing U.S. narratives as a "pyramid of lies." Iranian officials view Steve Witkoff as a "total ignoramus" on the issues. They've called for the U.S. to send "actual technical experts" rather than what they termed "real estate golf buddies."

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/HjpdPPNZLVI

5/1, Iran International (London-based Persian-language news channel considered reliable by many viewers for bypassing state censorship.)

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202605011395

Iran’s foreign minister accused the Pentagon of misrepresenting war costs, saying US spending has reached $100 billion, far above official figures.

“The Pentagon is lying. Netanyahu's gamble has directly cost America $100b so far, four times what is claimed,” Abbas Araghchi wrote on X, adding that US households face about $500 in monthly costs and warning that indirect expenses are significantly higher.


CBS, 5/6
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-war-trump-progress-peace-deal-strait-of-hormuz/

After Iran's foreign ministry spokesman was quoted by the country's state-run media as saying the regime was in the process of reviewing the latest U.S. peace proposal, he issued a social media post saying any negotiations should be based on engagement, not "deception, extortion or coercion."


Related:
Said it before. Will say it again: There is NO WAY OUT with the Felon in the WH
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221222535

pat_k

(13,818 posts)
13. I think the stress of this nightmare term is sending...
Wed May 6, 2026, 02:06 PM
16 hrs ago

... a growing number of people to early graves.

And then there are the ones RFK, Jr. is proudly eliminating from the "risk pool."

And the millions dying worldwide as a consequence of the felon's immoral, destabilizing, and intolerable USAID cuts.

Initech

(109,131 posts)
10. Yes, I agree with this 100%.
Wed May 6, 2026, 01:23 PM
16 hrs ago

Donald Trump is the crisis. He is an extremely fragile, insane man who has an ego larger than the United States itself. He wants to win 100% of the time and will never admit he failed. He must be thrown out of office, whatever it takes. But I currently fear that we're in inning 7 of this madness and this game might be heading to extra innings.

pat_k

(13,818 posts)
12. Frankly, I wouldn't mind being wrong, but fear I'm not.
Wed May 6, 2026, 01:55 PM
16 hrs ago

An end to the criminal insanity would be welcome. I just don't see that ever happening with him in power. We're not just heading to extra innings. I think we're heading to a nightmare that never ends. A neverending baseball game would be hell enough. This shit....

Cheezoholic

(3,833 posts)
14. Getting rid of him just puts a bandaid on a shotgun wound. The republicans need to get spanked hard in the elections
Wed May 6, 2026, 02:42 PM
15 hrs ago

before ANY of this changes. They can just put another ignorant moron in the Oval whilst they manipulate our government into the shitter. They've been doing that specifically since 2000.

pat_k

(13,818 posts)
17. Of course! But at least Vance would suck it up and make the humiliating deal
Wed May 6, 2026, 03:45 PM
14 hrs ago

The criminal war on Iran is arguably the most monumentally destructive mistake ever made by a U.S. President.

See also this reply up thread:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21222609

meadowlander

(5,150 posts)
16. They'll let it drag out until next January if they can.
Wed May 6, 2026, 03:42 PM
14 hrs ago

They want JD Vance to get the full freebie 2 years and then be able to run again twice.

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