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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMust be quite a shock to see this vulgar return of overt white racism
being pushed by ReTHUGs and their financiers in the South and elsewhere
Folks must really have be hiding this hate.
Damn this is hard to process..
B.See
(8,726 posts)Those of us familiar with the dog whistles, the coded messages, and all the rest, were quite adept at reading between the lines.
(And that signature on the bottom of my posts has been around for almost as long. I'm guessing it's only now dawning upon some what it meant.)
Thy crawled out when Obama won
SouthBayDem
(33,334 posts)Racists got permission once they heard politicians and talk show hosts say out loud what used to be limited to the dinner table.
misanthrope
(9,582 posts)I've been in Alabama all my life. I'm white so I've been privy to the things white people say when they assume they are surrounded by similar prejudices.
None of this is surprising. None. That's why those like me have told people beyond the region that had no clue how deep the Lost Cause mythology and resentment ran.
malaise
(297,584 posts)Indeed
Solly Mack
(97,195 posts)Stuckinthebush
(11,209 posts)Alabama was always Alabama but now our neighbors feel comfortable saying the quiet things out loud.
misanthrope
(9,582 posts)Then they quieted down a little bit in the 1990s and stopped saying it in mixed company. Now it is back in the wide open again.
Stuckinthebush
(11,209 posts)And Im in the bluest part of the state. It is unsettling. Now we are going to have toCoach as our governor. Its going to get worse.
BeneteauBum
(705 posts)The bigotry was just the way things were and I didnt question it until my senior year in high school. There was black girl in my calculus class who was sharp as a tack and very funny. She just blew me away. I was fortunate to get to know Nettie before going to the University of Florida in 1969. I cant imagine carrying those racist views to college. Nettie opened my mind and 57 years later, I am still grateful.
Peace ☮️
erronis
(24,404 posts)JBTaurus83
(1,638 posts)Im shocked that people think it ever went away. People love the fact they can say it all out loud again. Im gay and same goes for glbt hate. I think the only reason that the pig has any support at all is because of his allowance for bigotry.
3catwoman3
(29,716 posts)...evidence that our country was finally evolving.
How wrong I was.
dalton99a
(95,076 posts)The racists couldn't wait to seize power and turn back the clock the whole time Obama was president
wnylib
(26,364 posts)Trump tapped into that sense of outrage and encouraged it.
Floyd R. Turbo
(33,194 posts)Solomon
(12,651 posts)day. I just didn't imagine it would look like this. That it would be this bad. And it is bad. I was far from fooled about Obama being elected means we're past it. White folk have always hired black folk to clean up a mess. Obama might as well have been a janitor mopping the floor. I took note that police were shooting black men in the head and in the back when he was president. I felt bad for Obama because I think he knew it was because of him. Too bad there's so many people who don't believe the laws of physics. When a white mates with a non-white, another non-white is produced. They will never be able to make America, all white. But they believe they can. And if they can't, they want to stay in charge as a minority.
erronis
(24,404 posts)I think of European and especially Scandinavian countries as exemplars. But on reflection, I know that many/most of them are also torn by racial/ethic/language/religious divisions.
Common, people - let's all live together!
KT2000
(22,200 posts)who are now speaking out. What a disgrace. The reasons for racism are rooted in fear of having to compete, and ignorance. The most vocal racists are not living in multi-racial communities but white ones. They believe the media stereotypes and biased news coverage describes anyone other than whites.
I consider racists to be ignorant hayseeds.
AverageOldGuy
(4,093 posts)I'm 81, born 1944 in deep SW Mississippi . . little crossroads cotton picking town; county was 75% Black, as best I can tell from this vantage point, about 15 - 20 Blacks were registered to vote. I left at age 18 and never looked back. However, in those 18 years, three Black men were murdered, all of them for trying to register to vote or to form an NAACP chapter. Murders never solved -- what a surprise.
I have a dozen Mississippi and Louisiana cousins as well as my wife's Alabama cousins, in-laws, nephew.
Of these MS, AL, and LA kin, three families are Democrats. They take a lot of shit from their communities. The rest of our MS, LS, AL kin are MAGAts and white supremacists.
Their children and grandchildren all attend lily-white segregation academies -- Indianola Academy, Wilkinson County Christian Academy, Centreville Christian Academy, Bayou Academy (Cleveland MS). Read about them here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segregation_academy
They do not use the word "Black" or the term "African-American." They use as a normal part of their vocabulary the word "n####r" and "n####rs." They use these words as easily as the rest of us say "Hello" or "Goodbye."
They tell me Donald Trump was sent by God. They all -- except for a couple of families who are Methodists -- are Southern Baptists who are in church every time the doors are open and who tell me the Bible is literal -- flood, prophecy, resurrection -- it all happened.
I posted on my Facebook account a condemnation of the Supreme Court after last weeks decision gutting the Voting Rights Act. All Hell rained down on my Facebook, email, text messages, and phone calls from my beloved cousins who are delighted with the decision.
Not a fucking thing has changed in the Old South from the days of Southern Redemption following the end of Reconstruction in 1876. The six "justices" who overturned the VRA should swap their judicial robes for Klan robes and hoods.
Later, I'll post a comment telling everyone how I really feel.
erronis
(24,404 posts)Let us know when you have more, please.
OldBaldy1701E
(11,442 posts)One nice thing about being rural is there is no one other than the locals there to see just how racist some people are.
And, when most of the town of 500 agrees with them...
(You may have guessed that even Warp Factor 20 could not get me away from there fast enough, once I was able to do so.)

The sad fact is that racism is just as alive and well as it was at the turn of the last century. It was not able to be as overt after the eighties, but it was still there and no one dared to question it, unless they had another place to live before they asked.
And, the unfortunate truth is that once I did start traveling around, I leaned that it was still just as pervasive as it always was. Some places were much less so, but it was still everywhere.
moondust
(21,336 posts)Back during his first term I recall posting here a time or two that the Chief Birther would probably try to make some moves back toward slavery or at least Jim Crow. The only thing I noticed was something regarding prison labor/slavery.
I suspect quite a few who voted for him in 2024 did so to continue normalizing his legacy of racism and they now whitewash it by claiming they voted for his promises of no wars, lower cost of living, etc.
chouchou
(3,263 posts)Seems they have never understood the simple realities like "Don't judge a book by the cover" and all that.
Sad part (Like MAGA) is fairly easy to mold them.
"You know..that man was so clean, nice perfect haircut..wonderful suit and Sooo nice...
..I just cant understand why he jostled my bank account and somehow emptied my savings"
When Republicans judge..it's RIGHT NOW....
No wonder they grab the so-call obvious. Black man?...."mmm don't know...
The poor bastards never see the inside soul of a person....Oh Me.
My parents taught me so young...Look deep
PatrickforB
(15,499 posts)There is deep, deep discontent throughout this nation. Trump is doing Putin's bidding to take this country down.
pat_k
(13,818 posts)... the intolerable conduct and agendas that has been "normalized" as "political difference" in the era of Trump.
Our federal and state governments have been co-opted and infiltrated by people who have NO PLACE in a legitimate American government.
These people are defined by one or more of the following characteristics:
Does the bidding of Trump, no matter how corrupt, criminal, cruel, or destructive to our freedoms, our families, and our futures.
Abuses power to line their own pockets, the pockets of others in their gang, and the pockets of their billionaire backers.
Advances a racist agenda that seeks to reverse decades of social progress and seeks to purge African Americans, Native Americans, Latinos, and other people of color from our history, our civil service, and our elected offices.
Advances a Christian Nationalist agenda. That is, they are committed to passing laws that impose their PERSONAL religious beliefs on Americans who DO NOT SHARE those beliefs. Seeking to pass such laws is both deeply Un-Christian and Un-American.
Is determined to deport as many people of color who have come to this nation from elsewhere as possible, regardless of whether they are naturalized citizens, documented, or undocumented.
It is the business of of every American who believes in constitutional moral principles to demonize and unequivocally reject all attempts to abuse the apparatus of any branch of our government to advance these illegitimate ends.
These are not matters of "policy difference" or "political debate." These are red lines. Where these people have been successful in advancing their intolerable agendas, the affected legislative, executive, or judicial bodies are no longer legitimate parts of the American constitutional system.
We need a label for these people. A shorthand.
The label I use is trumpublicans. My definition of trumpublican clearly distinguishes it from the broader terms MAGA or Republican. (See related post.)
Trumpublicans have NO PLACE in any branch of a legitimate American government.
More of our electeds and candidates must be out there making it clear to the American people that trumpublicans must be purged from our courts, from our legislatures, and from our executive agencies and offices. This is more important than "affordability." It is more important than any policy because until there is greater consensus on what IS and IS NOT a legitimate use of the levers of our our constitutional system, we will be fighting a losing battle.
RetiredParatrooper
(216 posts)If you live here.
mcar
(46,278 posts)not a shock, but yes, hard to process when I interact with people here.
BradBo
(1,046 posts)Scalded Nun
(1,723 posts)'The Dark' is the one thing Trump can gladly provide.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,490 posts)I wouldnt be surprised if the white thugs in the Tennessee legislature started carrying ax handles.
This video is sickening to watch.
Link to tweet
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