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OldBaldy1701E

(11,639 posts)
Tue May 26, 2026, 09:09 AM Tuesday

Umm... WTF is this?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/8-democrats-pass-bill-forcing-teachers-to-out-trans-students_n_6a0f2d3ee4b084c012e3b6d4


Democratic Reps. Henry Cuellar (Texas), Donald Davis (N.C.), Cleo Fields (La.), Laura Gillen (N.Y.), Vicente Gonzalez (Texas), Marcy Kaptur (Ohio), Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (Wash.) and Eugene Vindman (Va.) all voted for this bill.



What’s more, three of those Democrats — Gillen, Gluesenkamp Perez and Vindman — are members of the Congressional Equality Caucus, which advocates for LGBTQ+ rights.


The Republican bill they just supported, the Stopping Indoctrination and Protecting Kids Act, requires elementary and middle schools to get parental consent before changing a student’s pronouns or preferred names on any school forms, or for making gender-based accommodations for things like locker rooms or bathrooms.



It also bars teachers from talking about transgender people or issues in the classroom, which means books that include transgender characters or that address the existence of transgender people would be banned. It would also ban LGBTQ+ school groups.


I swear, Don Davis is going to singlehandedly flip that area to red for the first time since 1972, and that was a one off!

IDIOTS!
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Umm... WTF is this? (Original Post) OldBaldy1701E Tuesday OP
Wow. WTAF? PittBlue Tuesday #1
This is so frustrating. Why can't they just leave people alone? LoisB Tuesday #2
They were Indoctrinated by their sponsors. dave99 Tuesday #4
Yes, that's the real indoctrination. LoisB Tuesday #31
My Grand daughter in kindergarten crud Tuesday #3
Maybe it's time for parents to give newborns the middle name "You" Attilatheblond Tuesday #5
It sounds to me like teachers are afraid of being fired if the parents don't give permission FakeNoose Tuesday #6
I must have misread the op orangecrush Tuesday #7
Because some parents can't handle their kid being trans EdmondDantes_ Tuesday #9
Nope. ShazzieB Tuesday #12
Public School Teachers, Counselors, and Administrators Operate Under... ColoringFool Tuesday #13
I can't subscribe to that interpretation. Mad_Machine76 Tuesday #20
In Ohio our representatives were attempting to make women going braless in T shirts illegal!! Hope22 Tuesday #8
They Would Have Had Many Job Applicants! 😉😛🧐😳 ColoringFool Tuesday #14
Yes so many.... Hope22 Tuesday #16
Whatever heppened to... Totally Tunsie Tuesday #10
The School Building Is A State Unto Itself When It Comes To..... ColoringFool Tuesday #15
ColoringFool's Law: "If It's A Republican Idea, It's Bad." I Was..... ColoringFool Tuesday #11
MAGA'S modus operandi is to attack B.See Tuesday #17
*Transgender People* Mad_Machine76 Tuesday #21
Is this bill likely to die in the Senate? ShazzieB Tuesday #18
Maybe Dems are tired of getting the shit kicked out of them when they suport 0.00001% of the population maxrandb Tuesday #19
There is no justification for this garbage. Mad_Machine76 Tuesday #22
It's .6-1.2%, actually. Quite a bit more than are, say, coal miners. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #23
Politicians aren't losing elections for supporting coal miners maxrandb Tuesday #27
So, people should suffer and die in the name of making sure we don't endanger the infrastructure. OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #28
Of course not maxrandb Tuesday #30
"Not one single one of the issues... would be a frickin' issue if Dems held the majority!" OldBaldy1701E Wednesday #32
I guess it depends on what you define as real change maxrandb Wednesday #33
Since I have lived through both, I would say it is about the same, no matter who is in office. OldBaldy1701E Thursday #34
I get it. maxrandb Thursday #35
I never said I would not support them. OldBaldy1701E 18 hrs ago #36
Sorry maxrandb 17 hrs ago #37
Thank you. It's politics. betsuni Tuesday #24
Fuck any lawmakwer who speaks against or votes against trans rights. TheProle Tuesday #25
Here is the bill on congress.gov mahina Tuesday #26
"Maybe Dems are tired of getting the shit kicked out of them when they suport 0.00001% of the population" J_William_Ryan Tuesday #29

PittBlue

(4,838 posts)
1. Wow. WTAF?
Tue May 26, 2026, 09:13 AM
Tuesday

They have nothing better to do? The country is falling apart and this is their concern?

crud

(1,286 posts)
3. My Grand daughter in kindergarten
Tue May 26, 2026, 10:20 AM
Tuesday

Has "change your name" day at school today...everyone chooses a different name and uses it all day. Sounds like fun! Oh well...we can't have that! say the creepy creeps who always think creepy things.

Attilatheblond

(9,327 posts)
5. Maybe it's time for parents to give newborns the middle name "You"
Tue May 26, 2026, 10:44 AM
Tuesday

I can think of several fun first names to go with that.

FakeNoose

(42,585 posts)
6. It sounds to me like teachers are afraid of being fired if the parents don't give permission
Tue May 26, 2026, 10:52 AM
Tuesday

Why should teachers lose their jobs if the parents and their own children can't communicate with one another? The teachers shouldn't be taking sides anyway, and that's what has been happening.

This bill sounds like it is meant to save the teachers from being fired ... and it puts the onus on parents and their kids to agree on the basic principle: Yes they are trans or no they aren't trans. School principals and counselors need to step up also.

I can actually see why Democrats would support this bill.

ShazzieB

(22,934 posts)
12. Nope.
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:19 PM
Tuesday

I CANNOT see why Democrats would support this bill, and I am deeply disappointed in all those who did.

ColoringFool

(1,176 posts)
13. Public School Teachers, Counselors, and Administrators Operate Under...
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:21 PM
Tuesday

The same laws, by law.

Mad_Machine76

(25,031 posts)
20. I can't subscribe to that interpretation.
Tue May 26, 2026, 01:53 PM
Tuesday

No Democrat should give their endorsement of this transphobic garbage. Republicans are going to do what they’re are going to do but Democrats don’t have to be a part of it. I really want to know why Democrats in the EQUALITY CAUCUS supported this!

Hope22

(4,908 posts)
8. In Ohio our representatives were attempting to make women going braless in T shirts illegal!!
Tue May 26, 2026, 11:58 AM
Tuesday

All tied in with other trans laws. They are absolutely sick sick people!! It may have passed but I haven’t been arrested yet!!

Hope22

(4,908 posts)
16. Yes so many....
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:33 PM
Tuesday

But if the law were mandatory jockeying stamps…..not so many!😁🤣 lol…..jock straps auto correct 😂😁

Totally Tunsie

(12,082 posts)
10. Whatever heppened to...
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:06 PM
Tuesday

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

ColoringFool

(1,176 posts)
15. The School Building Is A State Unto Itself When It Comes To.....
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:30 PM
Tuesday

Children's "rights."

Pretty much we find this out in Kindergarten, the first time we're admonished for talking.

Or maybe that was just me! 🤭 🤫

ColoringFool

(1,176 posts)
11. ColoringFool's Law: "If It's A Republican Idea, It's Bad." I Was.....
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:16 PM
Tuesday

Going to specify per law as to "For Americans" or "For Education," but then realized.....

EVERYTHING REPUBLICAN IS BAD OR WORSE, PERIOD.

THIS LAW HAS SEEN AN EXCEPTION EXTREMELY RARELY, TO MY MEMORY THE LAST TIME'S BEING THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY ORIGIN UNDER NIXON.
•••••••••••••••••••••••••••
VERY disappointed in VINDMAN especially!! WTH?!

B.See

(8,913 posts)
17. MAGA'S modus operandi is to attack
Tue May 26, 2026, 12:36 PM
Tuesday

Last edited Wed May 27, 2026, 04:15 PM - Edit history (1)

who and what they see as easy targets to accomplish a more despicably sinister objective.

Transgenders to discriminate against the LGBTQ community,

late term abortion to outlaw all forms of birth control,

DEI to discriminate against Blacks, women and other minorites,

fake claims of voter fraud to suppress the vote and re-establish Jim Crow,

so-called violent immigrants to deport and disappear Black and brown people,

and to end birthright citizenship,

while spending millions to import white Afrikaners.

And so-called sex and violence in literature to remove books from libraries - to obliterate Black history, obscure fascism, and promote their ignorantly deluded false narrative via the suppression of or rewriting of their OWN violent history.

An insidious indoctrination, inspired by fascists, supremacists, and other associated HELLSPAWN.

ShazzieB

(22,934 posts)
18. Is this bill likely to die in the Senate?
Tue May 26, 2026, 01:05 PM
Tuesday

I freaking hope so. If it does, I'm still going to side eye those Democrats who voted for it, very hard, but man, I really hope so.

Some of these people sound like they don't live in reality. Yes, of course, full and open communication between home and school is ideal, but there are times when that's just not safe, because some parents suck. Keeping kids safe should come first. Next thing you know, they'll be passing laws to require teachers (who are mandated reporters) to notify parents before reporting suspicions of parental child abuse to authorities. Because gods forbid schools keep ANYTHING secret from parents, right?

Oh, and they just HAD to put in that part about banning books that include transgender characters or even address the existence of transgender people! Will ALL school libraries be required to get rid of every book that so much as hints at the possibility that trans people exist? As a former librarian who still fiercely supports intellectual freedom, the idea of actively denying children access to information that some of them may desperately need makes my blood boil. Yes, public libraries exist, but not all kids have access to them. (In my case, the public library was a long way from where we lived and my mother didn't have a driver's license. It was a great day for me when the bookmobile started to make a weekly stop in my neighborhood, even though what it offered was only a fraction of what was available in that big building that I never got to visit.)

What we need is this country right now is a MASSIVE public education program to combat all the lies and distortions about trans people and trans issues that are being spread by the right. More and more people are being brainwashed by those lies and distortions every day, and I don't see anything being done to counter it.

maxrandb

(17,511 posts)
19. Maybe Dems are tired of getting the shit kicked out of them when they suport 0.00001% of the population
Tue May 26, 2026, 01:24 PM
Tuesday

I know it sucks, but until election results change, it makes no sense to give fascist Retrumplicans issues they can beat Dems over the head with.

This kind of "outrage" posting is what causes Dems to lose elections.

Retrumplicans support a fucking pedophile rapist demented clown. That clown won't lose a single vote for being a pedophile.

Whenever a Dem doesn't support someone's issue, we should ask ourselves

" Do I want Henry Cuellar (Texas), Donald Davis (N.C.), Cleo Fields (La.), Laura Gillen (N.Y.), Vicente Gonzalez (Texas), Marcy Kaptur (Ohio), Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (Wash.) and Eugene Vindman (Va.) writing legislation and setting domestic policy, or do I want Boebert, Blackburn, Comer, Higgins, Fine and Johnson doing it?

I don't know any of the Dems personally, but I do KNOW this:

- they aren’t going to support sending armed goons into blue cities to violently assault Americans

- they aren’t going to vote for the racist "Save our Retrumplican Asses bill.

- they aren’t going to give a blank check to a drunk ass christofascist Secretary of Defense.

Not to mention the most important point...

IF DEMS HAD GOTTEN JUST A LITTLE MORE SUPPORT IN A HANDFUL OF DISTRICTS, THIS LEGISLATION WOULD HAVE NEVER MADE IT TO THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE!

maxrandb

(17,511 posts)
27. Politicians aren't losing elections for supporting coal miners
Tue May 26, 2026, 02:52 PM
Tuesday

Again, I think it sucks, but it's politics.

I am going to say something very unpopular.

I love Pete Buttigieg. He would be a great president, but he doesn't stand a chance in 2026....hell, maybe not until 2050 or 60.

The Returdlicans would simply run an ad on a loop that just showed him kissing his husband, and he'd lose 40 states.

We need to stop thinking we can just will something into reality, because we want so desperately for it to be so.

Unfortunately, if Retrumplicans get their asses handed to them this November, they will learn that supporting racism, fascism, misogyny hatred and white supremacy is a "losing" strategy, but that is THE ONLY thing that will teach them that lesson!

It's not that he's a pedophile.
It's not that he's a rapist.
It's not that he's every vile thing that ever existed in America, scraped up and stuffed in a wrinkled sausage-casing.
It's not that he's vile, evil and corrupt...

It will take losing elections to teach Retrumplicans a lesson.

I am NOT wrong. We all know that if gas was $1.50 a gallon, his approval rating would be 55%.

That is the saddest, but truest thing of all.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,639 posts)
28. So, people should suffer and die in the name of making sure we don't endanger the infrastructure.
Tue May 26, 2026, 03:36 PM
Tuesday

Got it.

I also find it slightly amusing that you think the midterms are going to go down without a hiccup. But, that is just me.

They will not 'lose' elections if they refuse to accept said elections, now will they?

Of course, we could just stop playing politics. Why we think that this is not a good idea is a bit beyond me. By advocating for 'keeping things the same', by continuing to operate within a corrupted and biased system we are just making sure that they do stay the same... in all regards. Is that what we want?

Is power worth the pile we will have to stand on to get it? Because, to be honest, the answer I am seeing is very disconcerting.

(By the way, don't be concerned about being 'unpopular' for your posts. We need some 'unpopular speaking' around here. It might spark some ideas and some action beyond what is already being done. Maybe.)

maxrandb

(17,511 posts)
30. Of course not
Tue May 26, 2026, 04:21 PM
Tuesday

But we better realize that the Retrumplican Party is an organized crime family, and the Democratic Party is NOT.

Not one single one of the issues regarding the LGBTQ community, or minority communities would be a frickin issue if Dems held the majority!

John Roberts-E-Lee, Beer Boy Biff, the Handmaiden and Conservabot wouldn't be on the Supreme Court if Dems held the majority.

Kegsbreath wouldn't have his drunk-ass hands on the DOD if Dems held the majority.

RFK Jr wouldn't be killing people and snorting cocaine off Health Department toilets if Dems held the majority.

AG?
FDA?
EPA?
EDUCATION?

JFC! None of those incompetent morons would warrant one single serious thoughts if Dems held the majority.

At some point, you vote for the party that won't fuck you over, even when they don't hug you.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,639 posts)
32. "Not one single one of the issues... would be a frickin' issue if Dems held the majority!"
Wed May 27, 2026, 08:52 AM
Wednesday

So, what was the excuse for the lack of real change when we had the majority?

maxrandb

(17,511 posts)
33. I guess it depends on what you define as real change
Wed May 27, 2026, 01:08 PM
Wednesday

- the Affordable Care Act is real change.
- the first Infrastructure Bill in 80 years is real change.
- the Inflation Reduction Act is real change.
- Justice Jackson on the Supreme Court is real change.

Secretary of State: Antony Blinken instead of Marco Rubio is real change

Secretary of the Treasury: Janet Yellen instead of Scott Bessent is real change.

Secretary of Defense: Lloyd Austin instead of Pete Hegseth is real change.

Attorney General: Merrick Garland instead of Pam Bondi is real change.

Secretary of the Interior: Deb Haaland instead of Doug Burgum is real change.

Secretary of Agriculture: Tom Vilsack instead of Brooke Rollins is real change.

Secretary of Commerce: Gina Raimondo instead of Howard Lutnik is real change.

Secretary of Labor: Marty Walsh instead of Keith Sonderling is real change.

Secretary of Health and Human Services: Xavier Becerra instead of RFCocaine Jr is real change.

Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Marcia Fudge instead of Scott Turner is real change.

Secretary of Transportation: Pete Buttigieg instead of Sean Duffy is real change.

Secretary of Energy: Jennifer Granholm instead of Chris Wright is real change.

Secretary of Education: Miguel Cardona instead of Linda MacMahan is real change.

Secretary of Homeland Security: Alejandro Mayorkas instead of Kristi Noam is real change.

But, speaking of change, how you like the current "change" our country is going through?

But I have a better question for you; "would the lives of the LGBTQ community be better, or worse under a Democratic administration, or the current one?"

OldBaldy1701E

(11,639 posts)
34. Since I have lived through both, I would say it is about the same, no matter who is in office.
Thu May 28, 2026, 08:19 AM
Thursday

Clinton and the Democratic Party held the government in the mid 90s.

I did not feel any safer then. I still had to stay hidden because my job would have probably fired me, there were certain people I had to deal with who I felt would probably have killed someone like me. One does not always get to choose who one deals with in life, nor do they get to always keep control of that situation. I also did not feel like I could hug whomever I was with in public, even during those 'better' times.

Paper victories are hollow without enforcement and enlightenment.

After five decades of my life in fear, it is only in the past ten years that I can even attempt to show affection to my husband in public.I am not talking about naked romps in the park (which is one of the tropes that the rethugs and their religious cronies use to make us sound like wild animals), I am talking about a simple kiss. I felt no safer doing that when a Democratic party member is in office than when a rethug is in office. Why? They both operate under the same parameters. They get money from other people. If they piss off other people, they won't get money. The topic of Homosexuality has been a great tool for the rethugs for the past 60+ years. By making it political, they get to ignore the human reality of what is still going on these days. And, I have seen no one trying to remove that onus. Well, no one that might be able to achieve such a thing, anyway.

Taking one or two steps is a great starting point, but taking one or two steps and then celebrating 'victory' is... well...

Typical?

Also, I think I have expressed my position several times on the current 'changes' going on these days. If you wish, I suppose I can write up something that would explain my position and what I think should occur going forward. The issue is that, despite the usual propaganda that 'anyone can be President!', we know that is certainly NOT the case. 'Anyone' cannot be a member of the body politic without money and prestige behind them. Which means, no one except those with money can get anywhere in our governmental processes. Which means that the only thing that matters in government is... money. Not 'of, by and for the people'.

I have never had any money. I do not have any money, and I never will have any money. So, why keep on saying my thing when there is no way anyone cares or even wants to consider it. Since we prefer to answer questions that we already know the answer to anyway, the concept of 'progress' becomes even more of a joke. I am not alone in this. Personally, I am tired of being a 'stepping stone'.

It doesn't matter, though. My life is soon to be over, and I did nothing to help the world because the world did not care about what I said or did, despite the propaganda that said I should, and that they would.

I still cannot walk down the street with my husband without getting some stares. To this day. In what is supposedly a 'very blue' state.

"Equality' my fat, old, broke ass.

maxrandb

(17,511 posts)
35. I get it.
Thu May 28, 2026, 08:36 PM
Thursday

I don't know you, but I understand the frustration, outrage and disappointment.

I'm probably a little older than you. I am the father of a member of the LGBTQ community. I ask that you not get disheartened.

I think it is important to acknowledge that you can't force enlightenment.

People, as a whole, are more enlightened today than they were 50 years ago. Those 50 years ago are more enlightened than those 100 years ago.

My child deals with the same looks, threat to employment and lack of acceptance. So do a lot of people.

I have a great friend I made over 28.5 years in the Navy. He was a fighter pilot and commanded a Carrier Air Wing prior to retirement. He's African American married to a white girl. Despite his accomplishments, there were still looks. There were still creeps. He said there were places he wouldn't stop to get gas in America in 2019.

My point being, there are always going to be racists and fascists and misogynists and homophobes and white supremacists and haters. Fuck 'em!

Which brings me to the point of my post.

There is ONE political party in America that still believes in the rule of law. There is ONE party in America that believes in Democracy. There is ONE party in America that believes in decency, compassion, integrity, honor and empathy.

A racist, fascist, misogynistic, homophobic white supremacist without the power of the state behind them, is just a cowardly asshat.

A racist, fascist, misogynistic, homophobic white supremacist with the power of the state behind them IS A REPUBLICAN !!!

At one time in America, the Democratic Party was the party of the KKK. The Democratic Party kicked those fucksticks to the curb.

But, the KKK didn't go away. They just found another home.

Are Dems perfect? No! But, unlike the Retrumplican Party, the Dems aren't going to use the power of the state to persecute and dehumanize you simply because of who you love.

That should, IMHO, energize you to fervently supports Democrats across this country.

Both parties have crazy Aunts and Uncles. Dems keep theirs locked in the attic. Retrumplicans make them president, Cabinet Secretaries and Supreme Court justices.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,639 posts)
36. I never said I would not support them.
Fri May 29, 2026, 09:02 AM
18 hrs ago

But, I will not support anything 'fervently' until it gives me a reason to. Just because one side allows you to live when the other side won't doesn't mean much when the system (that they both keep in place) won't let you do much of anything to survive.

And, well...

And BOY, do I question that statement about Democrats keeping their 'crazy aunts and uncles locked up in the attic'.

But, both are debates for another time.

Thanks for your input.

maxrandb

(17,511 posts)
37. Sorry
Fri May 29, 2026, 09:14 AM
17 hrs ago

But if you can look at the actions Retrumplicans take when they are in power, compared to the actions Democrats take when they are in power, and can still "both-sides" things....I'm at a loss.

I wish you well.

J_William_Ryan

(3,598 posts)
29. "Maybe Dems are tired of getting the shit kicked out of them when they suport 0.00001% of the population"
Tue May 26, 2026, 04:17 PM
Tuesday

Think of it instead as Democrats opposing 100 percent of the hateful, bigoted right.

Opposing Republican racism, bigotry, and hate is who Democrats are.

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