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RB with high hopes (and less confidence) this won't be the case:

chowder66
(12,599 posts)Last edited Wed Jun 10, 2026, 01:53 AM - Edit history (1)
TommyT139
(2,457 posts)...but if one of them is trans somehow (except in rethug paranoid fantasies), please expand your speculation.
chowder66
(12,599 posts)I corrected it. Thanks for questioning!!
Skittles
(173,406 posts)there hasn't been a female president even though WE ARE OVER HALF THE POPULATION
Irish_Dem
(82,779 posts)We are a patriarchal society.
We see it everywhere, even places we hope could do better.
wnylib
(26,684 posts)The US is politically backward.
misogyny is widespread
Jack Valentino
(5,326 posts)of those who ARE---- We ran female candidates against Trump two times,
and lost the election (so far as we know) BOTH of those times---
but WON the election in-between where we nominated a male....
Thinking OUTSIDE of THAT box---
2028 might indeed be our BEST chance to elect a female President
for the first time, with everyone HATING on Trump and Republicans so much---
but we might be too afraid to try it.... Taking BACK the White House AND Congress
seems more important at this critical point in history,
than trying to 'break the glass ceiling'.... know what I mean ?
Now, if we could get enough women who are married to Republican men
to ignore their orders, and vote for the female candidate instead,
then that might change the calculus entirely.....
I think Democratic women are braver than Democratic men
(and us Democratic men are fewer in numbers)---
but if a Democratic woman is nominated for President in 2028,
I will do all that I can do to support her!!!
(I can't say that I will support any woman in the presidential primaries---
since I am fearful of that idea, and not committed to ANYONE at this point..)
Skittles
(173,406 posts)it is everywhere - heck, I have recently seen it dismissed as baggage. as an inconvenience
over and OUT
NoRethugFriends
(3,834 posts)BTW, "over" with "out" is incorrect. "Out" implies no "Over."
I would prefer no religious ones (Warnock) and no "Newsom," a little too slick.
niyad
(134,788 posts)Irish_Dem
(82,779 posts)Sometimes that is a tough sell with some folks.
niyad
(134,788 posts)biophile
(1,635 posts)But the fact is that the voters overwhelmingly DID vote for a woman. She just wasnt sworn in because of the Electoral College.
Irish_Dem
(82,779 posts)I believe you are quite incorrect on a number of points.
I will leave it at that due to obvious reasons.
rampartd
(5,332 posts)all of the male candidates will be smeared with epstein/me too/insufficient testosterone (ain't that one a kick) kinds of internet enhanced creepiness.
and a gay candidate , unfortunately , is a bridge too far. a generation away, maybe.
but yes, i'm considering liz warren as well as aoc, and am open to a few others.
mayor pete, of course, should be appointed secretary of anything he wants to do.
my current choice is a white male NOT on the list. "article unfair to astronauts?"
DFW
(60,625 posts)But Im trying not let personal relationships intrude.
Id definitely include Elissa Slotkin in the list, too. Of the other name women on our A team, its a mixed bag for me. They run from absofuckinglutely! to rather not, thanks all the same, but thats my take, and not one I shout from the rooftops.
karynnj
(61,184 posts)Until Governor Whitmer took herself out of the list of people possibly running in 2028, I assume she would have been there.Yet she could still be an influential voice.
I also think AOC should be included as she is influential. It seems the list is almost entirely people rumored to run for President and people running in swing states.
EdmondDantes_
(2,231 posts)No hint of gender or sexual impropriety about Talerico, Roy Cooper, Mandami, etc. Maybe, just maybe people on our side like Swalwell did in fact do bad things especially when there's corroboration of people the victims told in the moment. There's nothing magical about being a Democrat that means you can't be a predator.
rampartd
(5,332 posts)EdmondDantes_
(2,231 posts)TommyT139
(2,457 posts)...as has already been demonstrated on this thread, 'openly Christian' is not regarded kindly by a significant number of Dem voters. It demands too nuanced an understanding of faith and identity, I guess.
That's not to say a Dem of any stripe (red, green, or lavender) wouldn't get desperate Dem votes, but to me it says there's a long way to go to build a real coalition. Of course, leveraging simple hate (cf MAGA) will always be easier than mobilizing the complexities of empathy, love, and imagination. Hopefully we'll have time to try.
rampartd
(5,332 posts)i'm uncomfortable with open profession of faith, but i'm uncomfortable with open sexuality so that is probably my prob.
She sees men as the future.
Cirsium
(4,190 posts)Sorry, AOC, Lisa Blunt Rochester, Jasmine Crockett, Lateefah Simon, Laura Gillen, Angela Alsobrooks, Rachel Hunt, Kelly Morrison, Maggie Goodlander, Kyle Evans Gay, Luz Rivas, Mallory McMorrow, Laura Friedman, Julie Johnson, Yassamin Ansari, Ilhan Omar, Janelle Bynum, Emily Randall, Maxine Dexter, Sarah Elfreth, April McClain Delaney, Kristen McDonald Rivet, Nellie Pou...
Ilsa
(64,688 posts)Many, many others, indeed.
RockCreek
(1,568 posts)Just gestures and curses
niyad
(134,788 posts)ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??? There is so much wrong with that statement that I want to scream. Hey, rachel, why don't we talk about what happens to women who DO engage iin that verbal combat. Better yet, instead of talking about how ill-equipped women are, why don't we talk about WHY these are "male-dominated spaces". Why don't we talk about misogyny and patriarchy, the hatred for women, the forcible keeping them out of public spaces that we have been enduring all these millenia of patriarchal rule?
So damned disappointing.
Jack Valentino
(5,326 posts)While politically strategically probably not the 'best choice' for the 2028 Dem pres nomination,
due to ideological positioning---- she CERTAINLY ought to have been included
in that all-male meme!!!!
IF she decides to run for President in 2028, I can't say now how I would vote---
but I suspect she would be the strongest prospective 'progressive' challenger
against whatever 'more moderate' candidate which 'the party at large'
chooses to coalesce around!!!
(But, I would prefer that she runs against Chuck Shumer for his Senate seat in New York---
all the polls I've seen showed her beating him by about two to one in that race---
and we need a FIGHTER in EVERY US Senate seat--- including New York!)
EdmondDantes_
(2,231 posts)Sexism/misogyny is so deeply rooted (along with racism and heteronormative thinking) that even many well meaning people can't see past their own biases to truly challenge themselves. It's easy to convince ourselves that we aren't sexist, or provide excuses why we have to continue centering cishet Christian largely white guys this time (and the next time and the next time).
Even here when push comes to shove, far too many people aren't willing to have painful conversations about that and how reflexively our guy wouldn't do that or their behavior wasn't that bad, or we can't risk it this election comes up again and again. Same thing the party did with those pesky gay rights and why are they insisting on same sex marriage when it's not popular yet. We have an election to win and they just have to wait.
We all have to be willing to look at our actions more critically and be willing to see the ugly truths we hide from ourselves. And it sucks to do so. Nobody likes to really acknowledge where they fall short of their ideals and to accept they have deeply buried biases and lies that we believe.
Irish_Dem
(82,779 posts)Because then all the best parts of female essence would be totally destroyed
and we would all be male.
SMDH
Skittles
(173,406 posts)if Kamala had engaged in VERBAL COMBAT she would have been portrayed as the ANGRY BLACK WOMAN
niyad
(134,788 posts)2MuchNoise
(917 posts)imaginary girl
(1,047 posts)niyad
(134,788 posts)Skittles
(173,406 posts)in the end IT DIDN'T FUCKING MATTER
imaginary girl
(1,047 posts)Skittles
(173,406 posts)Trump could be a multi-felon rapist seditionist chronic liar and con man - but Kamala had to be PERFECT
niyad
(134,788 posts)as opposed to Trump who literally only laughs when people are being hurt
niyad
(134,788 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,899 posts)niyad
(134,788 posts)NoRethugFriends
(3,834 posts)A woman will likely not be, except for a very outside chance of AOC.
Sorry, politics is still the art of the possible.
betsuni
(29,393 posts)Blue_Roses
(13,924 posts)in the face to women. While I don't see any of the above "messengers" as misogynistic, the wording sets the precedent, by implying that men are the only ones who can communicate, which we all know is not true.
betsuni
(29,393 posts)Trump made the elections of 2016 and 2024 all about identity. Race and gender. The Democratic candidates did NOT run on "identity politics," they both ran on strengthening the economy for the working and middle classes -- which SURPRISE does not only mean white men anxious and angry about their status and power in society. Anybody listen to Hillary and Kamala? Maybe everybody should fucking listen.
Is the Democrats-are-bad-at-messaging criticism because women are often the messengers? Needs fighting spirit man voice power? I read some of an article about the "feminization" of the party and I can't find it again.
ColoringFool
(1,299 posts)Blue Full Moon
(3,732 posts)Also standing up to Trump.
rogue emissary
(3,416 posts)luv2fly
(2,746 posts)But this particular image is talking about these eight men who are connecting with people and that's a good thing.
A different image can show different things and it too can become a popular meme. A talented person here could even create it and set it on fire throughout the interwebs.
Outrage does not need to be found around every corner.
niyad
(134,788 posts)every corner. I am trying to think of a single positive thing happening for women under the current misogynist, patriarchal, theocratic, christofascist, woman-hating regime here. If I am missing something great, I would love to hear about it.
Torchlight
(7,134 posts)of women's issues is almost as frustrating to watch as the consistent attacks on it; two different methods, same purpose. From my chair, it's one of the two or three issues habitually ignored in our current reality and far too often framed into a "what about" contest of unfairness as an effort to distract and reallocate discussion.
TVguyCards
(51 posts)Where's Summer Lee, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Maxwell Frost, Ro Khanna, etc. all of whom believe in the policies poor and working class people need like single payer heathcare?
IMHO those people are the future of the party and are in touch with what people, especially young(er) voters want and need who are now the largest voting bloc. Fresh ideas. Fresh faces. Fresh policies.
WhiskeyGrinder
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TheProle
(4,170 posts)Reaction: This shit.
Johnny2X2X
(24,509 posts)As uaual.
BannonsLiver
(20,947 posts)CrispyQ
(41,153 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,899 posts)on communication strategy AND either serving in a swing state or planning a likely presidential run and I would sure like to see more women get on board."
After the sickening realization that the worst man is considered better than the best woman, I just can't muster up a shred of outrage over, "Women don't exist in the future," deliberately taken out of context.
One could argue women don't exist right now.
niyad
(134,788 posts)blubunyip
(315 posts)is problematic only because sexism and misogyny are so deeply ingrained in the American psyche. Trump's reign of terror proves that it's just as bad as it ever was. You see it everywhere. Men in power have no interest in addressing the issues.
Moderates still have a big problem with voting for a woman, and a female candidate is always seen as "too far left." So any debate about whether a woman candidate has the right communication skills and the right charisma or persuasive power is beside the point. "Women should be trained for verbal combat in a male-dominated space." --so much wrong with that statement it's mind-blowing. The message is, "Women, be a Man!
I'm already resigned to the fact that in this climate, with everything riding on the next elections, a woman has no chance of heading the ticket. But still, it's not the time to give up. Let's continue work to get as many qualified women in all the other offices as possible, and maybe one day...one day, one of them will finally rise to the top.