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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhere is the Democratic message informing the people of the present crisis in America?
What is the crisis?
It is not just about Donald Trump. It is about those that followed him down the primrose path. It is about the Republicans.
America is not respected around the world. We have lost all moral standing in the eyes of the civilized world. We will pay for it for decades or generations.
We cannot ignore or be silent about the Republicans' role in this disaster.
The people need to understand America's standing in the world.
Is there a Democratic message?
Is "We are not them" enough?
spanone
(142,190 posts)bucolic_frolic
(56,222 posts)same as always. There are no flat societies.
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kentuck
(115,912 posts)Someone will step in, if not the Democrats, then who?
hay rick
(9,792 posts)usonian
(26,961 posts)Between elections, vanished, while the opposition blasts its message 24 by 7 by 365.
We are as a party dead silent on issues that we all hold dear and hold in common.
"But the primaries!"
F that. By then it's too late, Pox News has defined all the issues and smeared all the candidates to hell.
Dozing. Manning bass boats to attack the German navy.
FUCKING WAKE UP.
dalton99a
(96,022 posts)The French used to have a simple solution - mechanical but efficient and 100% green
Martin68
(28,215 posts)Get out the vote and vote, that's the message.
kentuck
(115,912 posts)Is that enough?
Nothing else is needed?
Martin68
(28,215 posts)progressoid
(53,485 posts)In my experience, they definitely need a message. Including Democrats.
Frankly, it's kind of frightening how uninformed and misinformed the American voter is.
Martin68
(28,215 posts)GenThePerservering
(3,986 posts)and it's why the Democratic party is not effective in this fight.
Individual Democrats ARE effective - but where is the DNC? Where is the message?
Not everyone is politically plugged in, and collective action takes collective messaging.
Grins
(9,572 posts)It never has. Republican messaging - on duty 24x7.
Major fault of the party.
usonian
(26,961 posts)So tired of this ACTION committee.

Exp
(1,065 posts)kentuck
(115,912 posts)I don't know if his message will overcome it or not?
Ridicule is a powerful message.
NNadir
(38,781 posts)Telling them not to play with fire doesn't work nearly as well.
Our billionaires are partying like it's September 1929. It will soon be November.
There's a book I've been trying to find the time to read. It's called "The Great Leveler" and it's about how societal collapse leading to the destruction of grotesque inequality often takes place only in the context of catastrophe.
Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette lived lives of luxury and great wealth. None of their jewels forestalled the blade of the guillotine.
Elon Musk and our other rulers are human beings whether they know as much or not. Their lives depend on the loyalty and courage of the guards protecting them. So did Louis XVI so depend. Without loyal guards, Elon Musk is just a naked man wearing clothes, like any of us. If one cuts him he will bleed. If he has to pee, he needs to find a toilet. If overthrown he'll need to find a bucket in a cell.
I doubt those in the Musk class have any interest in reading the Great Leveler. I actually encountered the book on the bookshelf of a wealthy person, not one in the billionaire class, but an intellectual in the millionaire class.
Basically though wealth in our culture is paper and electrons on a computer disk. It has no real supernatural powers in the physical world. A building doesn't change form if its owner dies. It is still a building irrespective of who owns it. The steel in a girder will have the same molecular structure if its sold or expropriated.
After the 1930s the Great Leveler was the World War, one of the most tragic and violent episodes in human history.
This is not merely about a generic failure of our party to confront theirs. It is far deeper.
Greatness is achieved by only by facing great challenges. Without the Civil War a President Lincoln would have been as memorable as Millard Fillmore. If such greatness exists it will emerge from our party.
There is a Lincoln or an FDR among us in our party, no such person in theirs. Who that person is I do not know. I will die believing, nonetheless that he or she exists, waiting to rise.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,922 posts)A week ago those of us with negative opinions about misogyny, racism, Nazi tats, sexism and frat boy behavior in general were repeatedly and disrespectfully mansplained that Platner was gonna be the Democratic nominee and DU supports Democrats so sit down and STFU.
Less than a week later, Democrats have no message and never have, are invisible between elections, throwing breadcrumbs, they sit around and eat shrimp, etc., etc.
If MAGAt ridicule is a powerful message what can ANY Democrat do that will satisfy?
What about the hero from Maine? A week ago he could literally do no wrong, what about now? Where's his message?
Name some Democrats you would like to hear from, then seek them out. There are plenty of Democratic messages on social media.
You can't hear messages unless you are listening.
DU supports Democrats.
kentuck
(115,912 posts)I think this post is referencing one specific area not covered by those "messages"?
betsuni
(29,405 posts)not being Republicans and have no message. All out of AIPAC Centrist soup, come back tomorrow.
kentuck
(115,912 posts)Democrats are not beyond criticism, in my opinion. How do we define "bashing"?
GoodRaisin
(11,158 posts)presidency is directly because their opponents allowed it to happen.