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PCIntern

(28,774 posts)
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 08:24 AM Yesterday

I am really sick and tired of the MSM

Speaking about this guy like he’s a rational, grounded, knowledgeable individual who has any concept of reality, cause and effect, protocol, or a relationship with facts.

On every, and I mean EVERY network, station, and broadcast, the moderator will make a statement such as the following, “President Trump will be meeting today with so-and-so to discuss the policy and ramifications of such-and-such. In the past he has demonstrated that he has a hard-line approach toward the blah blah and we will have to wait and see what he decides to implement following the meeting, given the complexities and the personalities of the various (heads of state/governors/senators/CEO’s, etc.) involved in the process.”

This is a guy who can’t complete a single sentence without wandering into a senile self-aggrandizement, who has no grasp of history, technology, science, or even human emotions, who regularly sharts himself voluminously, and who has little or no connection with reality, to say nothing of the body politic. The notion that he could have a rational discussion with anyone about anything other than ordering Diet Coke is absurd. It’s like explaining alternate side of the street parking regulations to a cockroach.

I have spoken!

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I am really sick and tired of the MSM (Original Post) PCIntern Yesterday OP
The MSM kissing Trump's fat ass is all about access and fear agingdem Yesterday #1
K&R spanone Yesterday #2
And when you are right, you are right... displacedvermoter Yesterday #3
The cockroach would probably understand what you are talking about. mwmisses4289 Yesterday #4
Agreed SuzyandPuffpuff Yesterday #5
Not MSM but CCM SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #6
"In today's news, he said this: _____. Also, he said this: _____ and that ____" Ponietz Yesterday #7
The MSM is beholden to the OOO. Our Obscured Oligopoly. Festivito Yesterday #8
I agree with every word in your post, PCIntern. Diamond_Dog Yesterday #9
Corporate McPravda ensures them with the Gold Rule Kid Berwyn Yesterday #10
Boo! Do not like! LymphocyteLover Yesterday #53
thank ja for the interwebs. mopinko Yesterday #11
The MSM understands if they report the truth, they will lose their access dlk Yesterday #12
If the president were a doughnut, they'd have to cover it as well. harumph Yesterday #13
They're doing a version of "more of the same" but it's complete BS. paleotn Yesterday #18
I'm wondering how many people in this forum are asking ... aggiesal Yesterday #33
Less than you might think. I think DU trends on the older side. harumph Yesterday #48
What? No Electric Company? n/t aggiesal Yesterday #52
Those were my jams! OG Spiderman! nt. druidity33 21 hrs ago #59
I'm old enough to remember them on Saturday afternoons. Prof. Toru Tanaka 12 hrs ago #65
100%!!! I was mad at the MSM in the run-up to the Iraq war and boycotted them for a long time, but that was LymphocyteLover Yesterday #14
The MSM (like Judith Miller of the NYT) was a stenographer for the lies Martin Eden Yesterday #16
Trust Timewas Yesterday #15
Even NPR. Drives me batshit. paleotn Yesterday #17
This has been going on for a long time PCIntern Yesterday #19
Well, the local NYC Public Radio host 10A - Noon does not (? the phrase) pull punches. So there's that. electric_blue68 18 hrs ago #61
Dementia bmichaelh Yesterday #20
Took the words right out of my mouth. nt Susan Calvin Yesterday #21
My thoughts exactly mountain grammy Yesterday #22
I really think that mainstream media should pay a heavy price oldmanlynn Yesterday #23
I don't watch it. Everyone from NPR to the NYT LuvLoogie Yesterday #24
The news announcers are just reading the White House press releases FakeNoose Yesterday #25
It's just ludicrous, isn't it? hamsterjill Yesterday #26
This is not what was invisioned by the framers of the constitution. Prairie_Seagull Yesterday #27
Right on The Blue Flower Yesterday #28
Add Ali Velshi to the mix. BarbD 22 hrs ago #57
Mindless litany BeneteauBum Yesterday #29
I got sick of them years ago. The Bush Iraq war did it for me. CaptainTruth Yesterday #30
That is absolutely the case with the Iraq War... PCIntern Yesterday #35
Agreed! debsy Yesterday #31
Yes. Kablooie Yesterday #32
MSM is owned by billionaires duckworth969 Yesterday #34
"" AllaN01Bear Yesterday #36
Right, PCIntern Yesterday #38
All white men demanding supremacy are treated this way BaronChocula Yesterday #37
Pedo is an American stupid gangster who never paid for his stupidity. Justice matters. Yesterday #39
being a rich straight white male repuke has certainly helped Skittles Yesterday #42
Yet the yammering traitors constantly questioned President Biden's acuity Mysterian Yesterday #40
THANK YOU Skittles Yesterday #41
Including PBS tymfinity46 Yesterday #43
Great simile Just Jerome Yesterday #44
Thank u PCIntern Yesterday #47
Yup. Fuck 'em! Joinfortmill Yesterday #45
Yeah. That's an ignorant buffoon they are talking about. Simply saying so would GoodRaisin Yesterday #46
Well spoken Evolve Dammit Yesterday #49
Hey, that's what I was going to post. Kudos, PC. Vinca Yesterday #50
The sane washing is intense bob4460 Yesterday #51
Hear, hear! Mr. Mustard 2023 Yesterday #54
They've propped that fat fuck pedophile up long enough Blue Owl Yesterday #55
I can imagine how sick to Cha 23 hrs ago #56
OK, a bit off-subject, GAJMac 21 hrs ago #58
Bingo!!! PCIntern 13 hrs ago #63
A primary task of the corporate media is to encourage you to watch and believe the ads struggle4progress 19 hrs ago #60
Where is Edward R Murrow? bmichaelh 17 hrs ago #62
Instant editing has become very advanced DFW 13 hrs ago #64
But wait a minute! Janbdwl72 9 hrs ago #66

agingdem

(9,041 posts)
1. The MSM kissing Trump's fat ass is all about access and fear
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 08:31 AM
Yesterday

of network retribution if they don’t say nice things about him…

SuzyandPuffpuff

(765 posts)
5. Agreed
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 08:46 AM
Yesterday

It's all such fluff...these people are robotrons. Pure and simple. Someday they're all gonna pay. I Just hope I'm here to witness the end of some of these hypocrites.

Festivito

(13,947 posts)
8. The MSM is beholden to the OOO. Our Obscured Oligopoly.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:02 AM
Yesterday

And he's doing a decent job of supporting the OOO. And the MSMs are doing a good job of supporting them too.

Diamond_Dog

(41,463 posts)
9. I agree with every word in your post, PCIntern.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:03 AM
Yesterday

And I have thought it even when he had his first term. He has been nothing but a willfully ignorant, criminal, incurious and self-serving, racist, delusional, pretender, in way over his head. It’s just gotten so bad now, his incompetence is amplified exponentially. I, too, get so angry when seeing headlines or chyrons like you describe. Who is really running things in this government? Vance and Rubio seem like they’re nothing more than his cowed foot soldiers.

Kid Berwyn

(25,441 posts)
10. Corporate McPravda ensures them with the Gold Rule
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:04 AM
Yesterday


Programming We the People to accept the “inevitability” of the rich getting richer through fiscal policy cough trickle down, wars without end, and no need for democracy.

mopinko

(74,203 posts)
11. thank ja for the interwebs.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:05 AM
Yesterday

the truth is out there. places like du, and so many brilliant truth tellers on substack, etc.

dlk

(13,433 posts)
12. The MSM understands if they report the truth, they will lose their access
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:09 AM
Yesterday

As corporations,, their primary duty is to their shareholders and their profits. This is who they serve. Any duty to our country is conditioned on this fact and comes later, if at all.

harumph

(3,515 posts)
13. If the president were a doughnut, they'd have to cover it as well.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:13 AM
Yesterday

If they just ignored him, there would be too much empty air space to fill up. Let's imagine an honest broadcast:
"The unsteady and seemingly confused president, being propped up by his handlers was transported to a meeting where under normal circumstances, some kind of negotiation is supposed to take place. Who is actually capable of and authorized by the administration to negotiate remains unknown. More of the same for tomorrow and the next day and then the next. Be sure to check in tomorrow where we will very likely be reporting more of the same. In the meantime, we take you to Kukla, Fran and Ollie."

aggiesal

(10,992 posts)
33. I'm wondering how many people in this forum are asking ...
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 11:42 AM
Yesterday

Who's Kukla, Fran & Ollie?
🤣😂🤣

harumph

(3,515 posts)
48. Less than you might think. I think DU trends on the older side.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 04:29 PM
Yesterday

My older cousins liked KFO which had already stopped production when I was of an age to appreciate it. I was more of a Captain Kangaroo fan. I thought the ping-pong ball showers were hilarious. I was a bit too old for ZOOM in its heyday.

LymphocyteLover

(10,367 posts)
14. 100%!!! I was mad at the MSM in the run-up to the Iraq war and boycotted them for a long time, but that was
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:15 AM
Yesterday

NOTHING like their complete failure to maintain the truth and hold this HORRENDOUS POTUS to account -- and just overall their complete abdication of duty.

Martin Eden

(16,023 posts)
16. The MSM (like Judith Miller of the NYT) was a stenographer for the lies
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:32 AM
Yesterday

I joined DU in 2002 during that campaign of deceit. This is where I learned about PNAC and so much truth the MSM was not covering.

Timewas

(2,801 posts)
15. Trust
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:24 AM
Yesterday

I have completely and utterly lost any and all trust in our so called "news" outlets, they are totally out of touch with anything that resembles reality.

paleotn

(23,039 posts)
17. Even NPR. Drives me batshit.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:36 AM
Yesterday

Like they haven't had their federal funding cut to zero, thus have no reason whatsoever NOT to report the damn truth. But no. They hide behind some guise of "objectivity" when reality is staring them right in the damn face. They're a cultural class of naval gazers and circle jerkers.

PCIntern

(28,774 posts)
19. This has been going on for a long time
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:43 AM
Yesterday

I can’t do my Cokie Roberts imitation here, but her Monday morning horseshit report in Bob Edwards’ program used to make me nuts.

electric_blue68

(27,849 posts)
61. Well, the local NYC Public Radio host 10A - Noon does not (? the phrase) pull punches. So there's that.
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 01:08 AM
18 hrs ago

bmichaelh

(1,314 posts)
20. Dementia
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 09:57 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Sat Jun 20, 2026, 11:13 AM - Edit history (1)

Do not think whatever state Trump is in, he is coming back from.

Publicly, he used profanities and obscenities at G7.

Some are saying he has frontotemporal dementia in addition to his malignant narcissism.

oldmanlynn

(878 posts)
23. I really think that mainstream media should pay a heavy price
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:25 AM
Yesterday

For any of those that look the other way and capitulated to this fascist regime

LuvLoogie

(9,029 posts)
24. I don't watch it. Everyone from NPR to the NYT
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:43 AM
Yesterday

does what you describe. The ONANs and the FOXes openly blow sunshine up his ass.

FakeNoose

(42,928 posts)
25. The news announcers are just reading the White House press releases
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:44 AM
Yesterday

Whatever is fed to them by Chump's press staffers, that's what they read on the air and call it "news." It's the laziest and stupidest thing I've ever seen. They don't deserve to call themselves reporters because they aren't "reporting" shit. And as you say, they're doing their best to make it sound normal, and we ALL know this isn't normal!


hamsterjill

(17,937 posts)
26. It's just ludicrous, isn't it?
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:54 AM
Yesterday

They are all trying to tell us that we don't see what we see.

They are trying to tell us that we don't hear what we hear.

They are trying to tell us that we don't know what we know.

But we do!!!! Some things are obvious. Like when you're watching an older person decline. It's natural. It's expected. It's not something that can be hidden.

Trump is NOT a young man. He is EIGHTY FUCKING YEARS OLD. The media tore into Joe Biden, and yet hey give Donnie a pass on everything, it seems.

Who is making them do that? The media is no longer credible. I don't even watch any of it any more. I watch the few who were cast aside and who I feel might be a little truthful. Like Jim Acosta and Don Lemon, and a few others.

The rest are just ass kissers as far as I'm concerned.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,891 posts)
27. This is not what was invisioned by the framers of the constitution.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:55 AM
Yesterday

The power of the media is a check on political power.

Now here we are.

The Blue Flower

(6,647 posts)
28. Right on
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:56 AM
Yesterday

I had it with them when they piled on President Biden. His age and experience are what made him so successful in bringing the country back after Covid. His compassion and empathy were what connected him to Americans of all stripes. There was never any comparison between him and the criminal psychopath in the WH now. And that thing is old now, too, and much worse in all aspects than its predecessor. The agenda is clear for us all to see: currying favor for money and power. The only people I watch on tv now are Lawrence O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow, and Nicole Wallace. I never watch network tv. I'm 76 and enjoy the reruns of old shows. Otherwise, I read.

BarbD

(1,528 posts)
57. Add Ali Velshi to the mix.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 08:37 PM
22 hrs ago

Also watch Malcolm Nance's podcast -- Black Man Spy at 9 a.m. on substack. Frankly it's all I can handle. Then I calm myself with books. At 88, I'm down to cozy mysteries and romance novels because they have happy endings.

However I loved MSNow showing the opening of the Obama Presidential Library. I worked on his campaign. Still recall the motto of hope, "Yes We Can."

BeneteauBum

(930 posts)
29. Mindless litany
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:56 AM
Yesterday

Script given to commentators for regurgitation back to mindless, unquestioning masses.

Peace ☮️

CaptainTruth

(8,294 posts)
30. I got sick of them years ago. The Bush Iraq war did it for me.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:57 AM
Yesterday

So much obvious info about what was really going on (PNAC etc) & the MSM didn't report any of it.

PCIntern

(28,774 posts)
35. That is absolutely the case with the Iraq War...
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 12:28 PM
Yesterday

I recall a friend of mine years later said, “Who thought they were lying? Nobody.” I replied, “Everybody with a brain could see it was the case.”

He got that hangdog look… he knew I was right and had been in denial

debsy

(1,094 posts)
31. Agreed!
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 11:18 AM
Yesterday

Nobody will hold him to account in the MSM. Supporting organizations like [link:democracynow.org|] is critical in these times.

Kablooie

(19,133 posts)
32. Yes.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 11:39 AM
Yesterday

They are constantly legitimizing his insanity and pretending he is a competent leader.

duckworth969

(1,445 posts)
34. MSM is owned by billionaires
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 12:26 PM
Yesterday

And their Board of Directors consists of millionaires.

There’s no reason to put any stock in what they say.

They’re greedy, soul-sucking naked apes.

AllaN01Bear

(30,068 posts)
36. ""
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 02:20 PM
Yesterday

i dumped the local newspaper and quit watching tv news and listening to our local 50.000 watt am and fm trash talkers years ago. i get sane news from a news newsletter .

PCIntern

(28,774 posts)
38. Right,
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 02:24 PM
Yesterday

but maybe 300,000,000 Americans don’t. And of those, a fair percentage are swayed significantly by the news coverage by the MSM. They’re my concern, not you.

BaronChocula

(4,947 posts)
37. All white men demanding supremacy are treated this way
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 02:24 PM
Yesterday

by traditional American institutions such as the msm. They get all the passes, all the credit, and the least blame. It's been this way for hundreds of years.

Justice matters.

(10,208 posts)
39. Pedo is an American stupid gangster who never paid for his stupidity.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:06 PM
Yesterday

Since the first day he opened his eyes.

Yes, a gangster who always got away with his malfeasance scot-free.

Did he have to pay and pay (and never pay) damn money in the process.

Yes. Hence his obsession about money and gold and fluffy bs.

A gangster.

Mysterian

(6,715 posts)
40. Yet the yammering traitors constantly questioned President Biden's acuity
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:08 PM
Yesterday

The billionaire=owned MSM is the enemy of democracy.

https://www.freepress.net/who-owns-media

Skittles

(173,571 posts)
41. THANK YOU
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:10 PM
Yesterday

imagine what they would be saying if this was a POC, woman, aw heck, ANY FREAKING DEMOCRAT

GoodRaisin

(11,174 posts)
46. Yeah. That's an ignorant buffoon they are talking about. Simply saying so would
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 03:50 PM
Yesterday

Last edited Sat Jun 20, 2026, 04:43 PM - Edit history (1)

wrap it all up nicely. No need to dress it up in horseshit.

bob4460

(411 posts)
51. The sane washing is intense
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 05:34 PM
Yesterday

And I am sick of it too. I have about stopped watching all MSM media.

Blue Owl

(59,994 posts)
55. They've propped that fat fuck pedophile up long enough
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 06:59 PM
Yesterday

Time for the house of cards to come tumbling down, starting with CBS, CNN, NYT, and then the rest

Cha

(321,483 posts)
56. I can imagine how sick to
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 07:55 PM
23 hrs ago

Smithereeens you are with the constant Gaslighting Bullshit aimed at the American people and really the world.
I stopped in November 2002.

If only there were some other way to get the news without that Fascist Orwellian Propaganda.


GAJMac

(273 posts)
58. OK, a bit off-subject,
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 10:09 PM
21 hrs ago

But was your final line a "hat tip" to the near forgotten teleplay/musical "Li'l Abner"? I thought I was the only one who remembered Kickapoo Joy Juice.

struggle4progress

(127,116 posts)
60. A primary task of the corporate media is to encourage you to watch and believe the ads
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 11:44 PM
19 hrs ago

Informing you --- that the ruling class might use the machinery for mass production of consciousness, to spread sweet little lies --- well, that just isn't very high on the agenda

You'll get some glimpses of the truth, when the internal splits in the ruling coalitions lead to genuine power struggles, and the mechanisms of self-censorship temporarily fail

bmichaelh

(1,314 posts)
62. Where is Edward R Murrow?
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 02:07 AM
17 hrs ago

Where is the MSM journalist to challenge Trump in the way Edward R Murrow challenged Joseph McCarthy?

DFW

(60,733 posts)
64. Instant editing has become very advanced
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 06:04 AM
13 hrs ago

You don't see the strings pulling his movements, nor the speakers playing out dialogue using his voice, but being read by others, with the sound coming through flat speakers in the inner pockets of his suit jacket.

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