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SamuelTheThird

(1,441 posts) Sun Jun 21, 2026, 02:48 PM 1 hr ago

Iran stretched out negotiations with Carter

They are doing likewise now. And of course Israel isn't leaving Lebanon, either.

Meanwhile oil reserves are being drawn down. At some point, things will really break.

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Iran stretched out negotiations with Carter (Original Post) SamuelTheThird 1 hr ago OP

Well, just a little history Dan 1 hr ago #1

Reagan made sure the hostages would not be released until enough 1 hr ago #2

Recommended. H2O Man 47 min ago #4

Seemingly the second after he was Inaugurated. All of a sudden hostages are being Bengus81 44 min ago #5

That's true, but that leaves out the gross incompetence and ignorance of trump which is infinitely enabling this more... themaguffin 52 min ago #3

I don't see why or how anyone would bother negotiating with Trump, snot 2 min ago #6

Dan

(5,339 posts)

1. Well, just a little history

Reply to SamuelTheThird (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2026, 02:53 PM

1 hr ago

They did it on the request of the Reagan / Bush campaign with promises to ensure that Carter would not be re-elected.

The Guardians of Pedophiles have always put party before Country.

enough

(13,805 posts)

2. Reagan made sure the hostages would not be released until

Reply to Dan (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:28 PM

1 hr ago

after he was inaugurated.

H2O Man

(79,454 posts)

4. Recommended.

Reply to enough (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:44 PM

47 min ago

I think that was more the work of Reagan's VP pick, Bush the Elder, the former head of the CIA and of a family that was involved in oil.

Bengus81

(10,538 posts)

5. Seemingly the second after he was Inaugurated. All of a sudden hostages are being

Reply to enough (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:47 PM

44 min ago

loaded onto a airliner. Gosh..who'd a thunk it?

themaguffin

(5,515 posts)

3. That's true, but that leaves out the gross incompetence and ignorance of trump which is infinitely enabling this more...

Reply to SamuelTheThird (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:39 PM

52 min ago

than what most any other president would do.

snot

(11,923 posts)

6. I don't see why or how anyone would bother negotiating with Trump,

Reply to themaguffin (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 21, 2026, 04:29 PM

2 min ago

given his continual lying and flip-flopping. The only way to be sure what you've got with him is if you have substantial, physical leverage, such as control over the Suez Canal. And if you've got that, what do you need to negotiate for?

Trump's been burning through every source of leverage we had, and wasting most of it.

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