Trump Still Only Has 'Concepts of a Plan' for Health Care

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: Daily Beast

Updated Dec. 8 2024 2:46PM EST /
Published Dec. 8 2024 10:56AM EST


Donald Trump promised in September he had “concepts of a plan” to deal with health care. Three months and a successful election later, that’s still all he has. Trump told NBC’s Kristen Welker on Meet the Press that he had “concepts of a plan that would be better” than Obamacare, though he offered few specifics on what they would look like. Instead, he tried to take credit for the law’s resilience.

“We have the biggest health care companies looking at it,” Trump said in the interview released Sunday. “We have doctors who are always looking. Because Obamacare stinks. It’s lousy. There are better answers.”

“If we come up with a better answer, I would present that answer to Democrats and to everybody else and I’d do something about it. But until we have that or until they can approve it—but we’re not going to go through the big deal. I am the one that saved Obamacare, I will say,” he continued.

Trump also spent much of his time attacking Republican lawmakers for killing his attempt to repeal the law in 2017, namechecking the late Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) for his role in killing his attempts to repeal the law. “When John McCain let us down by voting, and Murkowski and Collins, and whoever it was that voted against, but they really let us down,” Trump said.

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[dweller]

1. He's F'n

INSANE !

“I am the one that saved Obamacare, I will say,” he continued.






✌🏻

[bdamomma]

2. I wish

he would fucking stop calling it Obamacare, it's the ACA!!!! that' why his cult is so screwed up. They didn't realize Obamacare is the ACA.

And he's going to try to dismantle it.

[sakabatou]

5. Exactly! They say they hate Obamacare, but love the ACA!

[NameAlreadyTaken]

25. And then attacks McCain for saving it!

[Ray Bruns]

3. Trump has dick. We know it. he knows it.

Everyone with two or more functional neurons knows it.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

28. Has very small...

dick.

[anciano]

4. I sometimes wonder if the Repubs

ideal concept of a plan for healthcare turns out to be WebMD and a $50 voucher for a first aid kit. Hmmm... 🤔

[OldBaldy1701E]

10. That would be too generous for them.

Their plan is to let everyone who is not a healthy worker die. That way, they won't be able to be in the way of worker productivity. They will also make sure to give just enough healthcare to the really good workers to convince them that they are special and to keep them voting for the status quo. If someone does not die fast enough, they will just remove any ability to get aid and they will just starve to death. All while those who created the biased system say that all the person had to do was get a job...

[Dave Bowman]

26. What a nightmare.

I'm afraid that he only has concepts of a brains.

[erronis]

6. trump must be confusing "concepts" for "contraceptions"

which, unfortunately, he doesn't know what it means or how to use either.

Too bad Fred didn't pull back out earlier!

[dweller]

7. He has a concept

Just hasn’t fleshed it out …

“Hurry up and lie “ ?
“Hurry up and sigh” ?
“Hurry up and cry” ?
“Hurry up and ‘🤔





✌🏻

[surfered]

8. His promise during the 2016 campaign was to repeal

The Affordable Care Act and replace it with reforms that expand choice, freedom, and affordability.

It’s taken him eight years just to come up with a concept. It’s not possible he was lying to us back in 2016 was he?

[BumRushDaShow]

9. Coming up next year, the GOP would have spent

15 years trying to "repeal and replace" the (full name) - H.R.3590 - Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

(and the final reconciliation/amended version - H.R.4872 - Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010)

[Dem2theMax]

11. I've said it before, and I'll say it again,

Watch for the empty folders. He'll be carrying them everywhere, swearing the entire plan is inside that folder.

[Evolve Dammit]

12. He barely has a concept of "self". Fred fucked him up permanently.

[wolfie001]

13. It's def not 50% of the voters, but whatever % it is......

......those mf'ers are stupid POS. Each and every one of 'em. Being led by that fat orange ignoramus racist f6ck. How's that for reaching across the aisle?

[Karasu]

14. He's a fucking Republican. They have no intention of replacing the current system with anything. They just have to

PRETEND that they do because the know the system is unpopular as fuck.

[Henry203]

35. wrong

republican's want haelthcare like it was befoe the ACA. limits on lifetime payouts, pre-existing condituons are enforced and they will probably add limits on appeals.

[Karasu]

46. The "system" I was referring to is the system the GOP preserved by killing the public option in the ACA, to be clear.

Because we can't just get rid of for-profit health care, don't you know. But aside from that, yes, you are correct. That said, though, they do NOT intend to replace the ACA with anything.

[chouchou]

15. Mr. Donald Trump actually has wonderful plans, regarding how he "Puts things"

He blows the crap out-of-his-ass. (and our so-called truthful media.....eats it up.

[patphil]

29. There's a continuous flow of BS coming out of Trump's ass.

It's called trump truth; pure, unadulterated Trump style bullshit.
He just reaches around, grabs a big handful and throws it out for everyone to see. His base eagerly embraces it as if was something great.
In actuality, this is the closest to Making America Great Again that Trump can offer...lies, half-truths, and total absurdities. All of this served up with a big helping of malicious intent, and threats to make people who oppose him pay for their transgressions against him.

[chouchou]

43. Your words are extremely true.

You know, it wouldn't bother I/we/us, if when the press talked to him, they wouldn't act like some great scientist
just solved the Quantum Universal dark matter subject and the press also says "Oh ..That's interesting"

[republianmushroom]

16. 'Concepts of a Plan' meaning he doesn't have any idea of about it.

[nmmi]

17. Trump approved this Republican health care plan in 2017 - that failed by only one vote

the AHCA and the BCRA. Problem: they were awful

This Wikipedia articles covers both the AHCA (American Health Care Act) and the BCRA (Better Care Reconciliation Act)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Health_Care_Act_of_2017

H.R. 1628, American Health Care Act of 2017, Cost Estimate, CBO, 5/24/17
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752
would increase the number of people who are uninsured by 23 million in 2026 relative to current law.


H.R. 1628, Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017, Cost Estimate, CBO, 6/26/17
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52849
A little bit better: leaving 22 million uninsured in 2026 relative to current law.

This is the one that Senator John McCain famously turned thumbs down on. Otherwise it would have become law.
Start at 2:45

Both can only be described as acts of American Genocide. We need to call the GOP the American Genocide Party.

[cstanleytech]

18. I wonder how long the Republicans will let Trump stay before invoking the 25th Amendment due to Trump's mental health.

[wryter2000]

20. Same here

He isn’t doing them any favors.

Someone on MSNBC said something intriguing…

The Heritage Foundation has a plan to take over the government. What if it turns out Trump can’t deliver? What would happen if Heritage kicked him to the curb? Might they do it in favor of Donut Boy?

Wild speculation, but fun to play with.

[travelingthrulife]

22. Putin has already warned Trump that he had him elected and now he expects

Trump to perform for him. I think THEY will have him tossed out a window or something.

[Paper Roses]

48. Where is the vanished Vance? He is no better.

I think the Repubs are hiding him so that no controversial comments are made by him and made public.
trump and Vance are equally as bad.

[cstanleytech]

49. I never said Vance would be an improvement for us.

[wryter2000]

19. He says absolutely anything that comes into his head

Wait for him to say the Martians are working on a plan for him.

[bmichaelh]

21. ACA saved my life

If his plan is to completely repeal ACA; go back to rules and regulations pre-ACA, then I may not be here much longer.

I am a lymphoma survivor in my third remission; ACA provides me protection against lifetime limits.

I am undergoing maintenance treatments that cost $1million/year.

If those stop, then my lymphoma may return.

It is not just the his 'concepts of plan' that concerns me.

Trump has nominated anti-vaxxers to healthcare positions.

[travelingthrulife]

23. And a 'Doctors R Us' employee with daddy killing mental health baggage for

Surgeon General.

[GoYouPackersGo]

24. Don't worry...

It's coming in two weeks.

[patphil]

27. translation: We're still looking into ways to maximize healthcare insurance company's profits.

[bmichaelh]

31. Good point

I agree with you.

Any plan if Trump had a plan would maximize shareholder wealth of insurance companies.

When he tried to repeal ACA the first time, he met with insurance companies but not patient rights groups.

[underpants]

30. So far it's been like one "Infrastructure Week" after another

[Lonestarblue]

32. Trump's concept is that he needs healthcare. Screw everybody else.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

33. DOES IT NOT OCCUR TO ANYONE that his "concept" is that there is no plan beyond eliminating as much health

industry regulations and public healthcare spending (e.g. medicaid) as possible. WHY would anyone expect repub party to have any other goals or "plans" beyond what its had for the last gazillion years. Who was it who said about 30 yrs ago they wanted to shrink government to the size they can drown in a bathtub. Well the drowning is about to commence!

[Henry203]

34. He has a plan

it is the plans before the ACA.

[maxsolomon]

36. He lies like he breathes.

It's an autonomic response. He will never answer a question honestly. He literally can't.

He's the worst person in America, and we're all going to suffer for these coming 4 years for the rest of our lives.

[0rganism]

37. Have TSF and his cronies been buying up open cemetery plots?

Could be the perfect real-estate investment for the coming decade -- perhaps the most real of all real-estate.

[onetexan]

38. Nothing w be done. And come 2029 ACA it w remain in place. He w still have a concept of a plan.

All hat & no cattle.

[tonekat]

39. Coverage for Health Care is Complex

And way beyond the limitations of trump's feeble mind. He likely can't visualize anything beyond the hamberder he'll have for lunch.

[BobTheSubgenius]

40. I think what was meant was that someone had explained to him what a plan is.

[orleans]

41. "concepts" swirl around in his demented brain like a tiny paper in a high wind nt

[Evolve Dammit]

42. Get ready for colonoscopies at WalMart and brain surgery at Home Diablo.

[IronLionZion]

44. He "saved" Obamacare but was let down by 3 GOP who voted against repealing it

[Initech]

45. I will refer to him as a "concept of a president" then.

[av8rdave]

47. During its first term, trump lamented "who knew health care could be so complicated?"

His predecessor did, but trump can’t come to terms with the fact that 90% of the population is smarter and more learned than it is.

It would be quite the flight of fancy to believe it’s done any reading, research or consultation on the topic in the years since.

[Evolve Dammit]

50. Orange criminal rapist is in fact his own "concept". He stands for nothing good and is a reactive reptile. Nothing

tangible on the positive side. He has chosen the strong man construct and manipulates millions by lying as he breathes.
I have a "concept" of better places for him to reside...

[PoliciesRuleTheDay]

51. What's the problem with healthcare?

I thought Obama fixed health care.

[Bettie]

52. I'm sure the project 2025 guy

has a plan that kills a whole bunch of us and sickens the rest.

[HereForTheParty]

53. Never had one, never will

How the hell MAGAts can't see that, I don't know.