UnitedHealthcare CEO killing: Luigi Mangione ID'd as person of interest, arrested on gun charge

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Source: CNBC

Published Mon, Dec 9 2024 11:21 AM EST Updated 3 Min Ago


A 26-year-old man has been identified as a “strong person of interest” and is being questioned by police in Pennsylvania on Monday in connection with the fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

The man, identified by the New York Police Department as Luigi Mangione, was found with a gun that is similar to the one used by a masked gunman to kill the 50-year-old Thompson last Wednesday in New York City.

Mangione, a Towson, Maryland native whose last known address was in Honolulu, was found in possession of a silencer, and a mask, authorities said. Sources told NBC he also was carrying fake New Jersey identification in the name of “Marc Rosario.”

That was the same name on the fake New Jersey ID of a man who checked into a hostel in Manhattan, whom police were seeking as a person of interest in Thompson’s killing.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/09/brian-thompson-killing-man-questioned-in-pennsylvania-in-unitedhealthcare-ceo-slaying.html

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A 26-year-old man has been identified as a "strong person of interest" and is being questioned by police in Pennsylvania on Monday in connection with the fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

The man, identified by the New York Police Department as Luigi Mangione, was found with a gun that is similar to the one used by a masked gunman to kill the 50-year-old Thompson last Wednesday in New York City.

Mangione, a Maryland native whose last known address was in Honolulu, was found in possession of a silencer, and a mask, authorities said. Sources told NBC he also was carrying fake New Jersey identification in the name of "Marc Rosario."

That was the same name on the fake New Jersey ID of a man who checked into a hostel in Manhattan, whom police were seeking as a person of interest in Thompson's killing.

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Published Mon, Dec 9 2024 11:21 AM EST Updated 2 Min Ago


Police in Pennsylvania are questioning a man on Monday in connection with the fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. The man, identified by law enforcement sources as 26-year-old Luigi Mangione, was found with a gun that is similar to the one used to kill the 50-year-old Thompson by a masked gunman last Wednesday in New York City.

Mangione also was found in possession of a silencer, a mask and a fake New Jersey identification in the name of "Marc Rosario," according to law enforcement sources cited by NBC News.

That was the same name on the fake New Jersey ID of a man who checked into a hostel in Manhattan, whom police were seeking as a person of interest in Thompson's killing.

Mangione was arrested on firearms charges by Pennsylvania authorities, but has not been arrested or charged in connection with Thompson's killing.

[Joinfortmill]

1. This is gonna be quite the story when it all unfolds.

[dalton99a]

2. .

[FakeNoose]

3. WTF? This can't be the shooter

This guy has a bachelor's and master's from Penn U ...

[dalton99a]

4. Valedictorian from $40K/yr private high school in Baltimore

[LudwigPastorius]

6. Educated people can be homicidal too.

Ted Kaczynski had a Bachelor's from Harvard and a Ph.D in theoretical mathematics.

[XorXor]

30. I haven't read anything about him having a personal connection to anyone who may have had claims denied (or whatever)

If that comes in the future then it would make a lot more sense. If no such connections are ever made, then this guy is totally different than what most of us were probably expecting.

[Mr.Bill]

46. Just think of all the millionaires in Hollywood

who kill themselves.

[multigraincracker]

5. Seems nice..Just don't know if I should laugh or cry.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

11. Are those titanium screws in his spinal column? NT

[maxsolomon]

13. Sure looks like a set of pins.

One presumes those are going to be the source of his resentments against UHC.

[Silent Type]

14. Looks like he got treatment. Those type injuries and surgeries often leave one in pain, unfortunately.

Maybe the drugs that weren't denied contributed to his actions.

[Lulu KC]

17. His spine looks like mine

And mine feels fantastic. But I know they don't always work out.

Yes--drugs that weren't denied! I ordered some really crazy clothes online during recovery! But I didn't make a gun from a 3-D printer. Engineering degree, indeed.

Fascinating.

[Karasu]

29. The fact that he used a ghost gun is irony at its finest when this country outright refuses to regulate them...

...while UHC created an AI for the sole purpose of denying claims. Yet another industry the US still refuses to regulate.

[Lulu KC]

36. So I wonder what the gun charge is

Are silencers illegal but the ghost guns are not?

[BumRushDaShow]

38. Ghost guns got some regulation a couple years ago

https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/definition-frame-or-receiver/summary

Federal Register publication of final Rule - https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/04/26/2022-08026/definition-of-frame-or-receiver-and-identification-of-firearms

(the definition change meant it now includes the parts used to make ghost guns)

There is a case that was just heard by the SCOTUS in October whining about the Rule - https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/10/court-likely-to-let-bidens-ghost-gun-regulation-stand/

[Karasu]

41. Oh, wow! I thought that SCOTUS case had actually gone the other way.

In that case, ghost guns are now regulated more than AI.

...Wow.

[Karasu]

40. Been wondering that myself. It could be a matter of New York gun law for all I know.

[hunter]

18. Or the ones that were...

[Silent Type]

19. We'll know soon enough. Right now, I'm betting on incel looking for a reason to shoot someone in the back, and

of course some other type of mental illness could be involved.

[Lulu KC]

35. I see nothing indicating incel

What are you seeing?

[paleotn]

42. Don't have to look too hard.

We've been down this road all weekend.

[TexasBushwhacker]

39. It may not necessarily be his spine though

It could belong to a loved one. Suffering yourself is awful. Watching someone you love suffer can be worse.

[Silent Type]

43. Looks like they got treatment, not a denial. Neither insurance or doctors can guarantee a life without pain

especially in spinal surgery like that. Besides, that family apparently have the money for to pay for treatment if it is related to an insurance denial.

Luigi M's family owned a nursing home, maybe he is rejecting his family somehow.

If there is additional info, I might change my mind.

[TexasBushwhacker]

47. Yes, and chronic pain can mess with your head

My mother had degenerative discs in her spine. Her mother did too. My youngest brother has them now. He's had 2 spinal surgeries, one in his neck and one in his lumbar spine. He also got an electrical stimulator implanted, which takes some of the edge off. But he has 3 more degenerated discs and right now, his insurance will only cover one artificial disc implant. It's so unfair. He takes care of himself, eats right and exercises. He just has these crappy discs.

[Lulu KC]

44. NYT says spine injury 2023

(Just updated)

[Dulcinea]

7. Either they have the wrong guy...

...or he's the most inept criminal ever. Who keeps all the paraphernalia they used to commit a crime? This guy has degrees from Penn, surely he's smarter than that. Or, maybe he wanted to be caught, but that seems crazy.

[FakeNoose]

8. Maybe the real shooter stole this guy's ID and personal data

Maybe the real shooter looks something like this guy, and somehow got hold of his Facebook credentials?
I don't know ... this doesn't make any sense.

[xocetaceans]

9. Or...the crazy part is that shooting a health insurance CEO seems not to be the crazy part. n/t

[Bengus81]

23. Yeah and going to Mikey D's when he's supposedly a wanted man

Either not him or wanted to be caught......

[Karasu]

48. Considering he was able to track a CEO's movements so closely, whack him in broad daylight, and escape from

one of the most populous cities in the world, it really does beg the question of how he could have made such a dumb mistake.

Clearly far from the most inept criminal ever, though.

[usonian]

10. Not a professional killer.

[KewlKat]

12. I wonder if that Xray in his header is part of the story?

Sad to think he did this and what must have compelled him to react in this way.

One article said He was carrying a handwritten manifesto criticizing health insurance companies, law enforcement officials said.

[Deep State Witch]

15. Luigi?

[Lulu KC]

16. Not what I expected

I did not expect the wealth.

[leftyladyfrommo]

20. He does seem to be in the troubled young

male category.

[Karasu]

25. Neither did I, but compared to a health insurance CEO, not many of us can be considered "wealthy."

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So frankly, I think his wealth is something of a moot point.

[LauraInLA]

28. Another example I posted below -- the shooter at UC Santa Barbara was from a well-off family.

[C0RI0LANUS]

21. Maybe UHC used his computer science skills for the death panel algorithm which ticked him off.

[The Grand Illuminist]

22. Any relation to a Chuck?

[Bengus81]

24. LOL...beat me to it!

[C0RI0LANUS]

31. It "feels so good" to make connections with other musicians.

[The Grand Illuminist]

34. Could've sweetened it with King Of The Hill bits.

[Linda ladeewolf]

26. Decoy?

[LauraInLA]

27. I'm seeing a lot of commenters surprised by this person's socioeconomic status -- the person who shot

up the University of California Santa Barbara area was also from a wealthy family. (And that family apparently sought mental health treatment for their son but were hamstrung because of his age.)

[XorXor]

32. That's an interesting point to consider.

I guess we have to wait and see what else is uncovered about his background.

[LauraInLA]

33. Agreed. The SB case did highlight the difficulty of *forcing* a family member to get mental health treatment,

even if you have the economic resources to provide it. The person had been in treatment as a teen but had aged out and parents felt their hands were tied. I don’t believe he would have been found eligible by a court for involuntary commitment before his rampage.

[Lulu KC]

37. Familiar topic

I need to read about him again/more.

[paleotn]

45. One things for sure. His fieldcraft stinks.

He's still walking around with the ghost gun? Does he not understand what ghost guns are for? You'd expect better planning and execution from a Penn grad. Maybe not.

[Deminpenn]

49. Parallel in history

might be the Wall Street Bombing in 1919-20s. Interestingly many of that era's anarchists were Italian or if Italian decent.