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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(116,910 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:12 PM Dec 12

Watchdog finds FBI intelligence missteps before Jan. 6 riot, but no undercover agents were present

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — The FBI should have done more to gather intelligence before the Capitol riot, according to a watchdog report Thursday that also said no undercover FBI employees were on the scene on Jan. 6, 2021 that and none of the bureau’s informants was authorized to participate.

The report from the Justice Department inspector general’s office knocks down a fringe conspiracy theory advanced by some Republicans in Congress that the FBI played a role in instigating the events that day, when rioters determined to overturn Republican Donald Trump’s 2020 election loss to Democrat Joe Biden stormed the building in a violent clash with police.

The review, released nearly four years after a dark chapter in history that shook the bedrock of American democracy, was narrow in scope, but aimed to shed light on gnawing questions that have dominated public discourse, including whether major intelligence failures preceded the riot and whether the FBI in some way provoked the violence. It’s the latest major investigation about a day unlike any other in U.S. history, one that has already yielded congressional inquiries and federal and state indictments.

The report offers a mixed assessment of the FBI’s performance in the run-up to the riot, crediting the bureau for preparing for the possibility of violence and for trying to identify known “domestic terrorism subjects” who planned to come to Washington that day.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/justice-department-inspector-general-capitol-riot-jan-6-79c7ea02cf66c874f9201ae8e9294239



It'll be even worse if Kash Patel gets his way.
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Watchdog finds FBI intelligence missteps before Jan. 6 riot, but no undercover agents were present (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 12 OP
The J6 planners, organizers and funders didn't even bother to hide anything. Irish_Dem Dec 12 #1
As another Jan. 6 conspiracy theory collapses, JD Vance pretends otherwise LetMyPeopleVote Dec 13 #2
Trump's effort to move the Jan. 6 goalposts is literally unbelievable LetMyPeopleVote Dec 16 #3

Irish_Dem

(60,158 posts)
1. The J6 planners, organizers and funders didn't even bother to hide anything.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 07:28 PM
Dec 12

They met in public hotels to discuss plans.

Members of congress gave tours and handed out maps to the insurrectionists before J6.
One Dem member of congress noticed these things and reported it before J6.

Most GOP members knew what was happening on J6, they are laughing and joking while Dems were terrified.

The planners were members of congress, wife of a Supreme Court justice, wealthy donors.

And the FBI had no idea what was going to happen.
Sure.

LetMyPeopleVote

(156,019 posts)
2. As another Jan. 6 conspiracy theory collapses, JD Vance pretends otherwise
Fri Dec 13, 2024, 10:55 AM
Dec 13

Despite the vice president-elect's claims, the Justice Department's inspector general just shredded a key Jan. 6 conspiracy theory.
https://bsky.app/profile/stevebenen.com/post/3ld6xa52ib22s

The Justice Department's inspector general shredded the "fedsurrection" Jan. 6 conspiracy theory that's popular with far-right Republicans.

For JD Vance to suggest otherwise is ridiculous. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/another-jan-6-conspiracy-theory-collapses-jd-vance-pretends-otherwise-rcna184106

Republican conspiracy theorists are probably quite accustomed to reality discrediting their ideas, but this has nevertheless been a rough week for them. Many GOP officials, for example, were heavily invested in Alexander Smirnov’s dubious claims about President Joe Biden, but the profiteer has since admitted that he made up the allegations.

In case that weren’t enough to ruin Republican conspiracy theorists’ day, the developments in Smirnov’s criminal case coincided with an important inspector general’s report. The New York Times reported:

More than two dozen F.B.I. informants were in Washington on Jan. 6, 2021, but contrary to widespread conspiracy theories, bureau officials did not order anyone to break the law as a pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol that day, according to a report by a Justice Department watchdog released on Thursday. After a nearly four-year investigation, the department’s inspector general, Michael E. Horowitz, also determined that the F.B.I. had not stationed any undercover agents in the crowd that gathered at the Capitol to disrupt the certification of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s electoral victory over Donald J. Trump in the 2020 election.


Horowitz’s full, 88-page report was published online and is available to the public......

The far-right conspiracy theory wasn’t that the Jan. 6 mob included some who were confidential FBI informants. We already knew this. Some even testified during Jan. 6 criminal cases.

Rather, as Vance really ought to know, the conspiracy theory is that the FBI was somehow responsible for instigating the attack and entrapping Trump’s poor, unsuspecting supporters.

Horowitz’s findings shred these claims. Not only did the IG conclude that the FBI informants weren’t authorized or encouraged to break the law, but the same findings made clear that there were no undercover FBI employees at the Capitol, either.

If Republican conspiracy theorists want to apologize right about now, that’d be great. If they want to enjoy a little quiet time, that’d be understandable. But for Vance to suggest that the inspector general’s findings somehow bolster Republican conspiracy theories is ridiculous.

LetMyPeopleVote

(156,019 posts)
3. Trump's effort to move the Jan. 6 goalposts is literally unbelievable
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 05:45 PM
Dec 16

When a Justice Department investigation discredited a key Jan. 6 conspiracy theory, Donald Trump cynically tried to tweak the absurd underlying claim.
https://bsky.app/profile/democracyblue.bsky.social/post/3ldghtrp4w22f

Trump’s effort to move the Jan. 6 goalposts is literally unbelievable
When a Justice Department investigation discredited a key Jan. 6 conspiracy theory, Donald Trump cynically tried to tweak the absurd underlying claim



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-effort-move-jan-6-goalposts-literally-unbelievable-rcna184331

Proponents of Jan. 6 conspiracy theories are probably accustomed to embarrassing setbacks, but last week was especially brutal. The Justice Department’s inspector general, Michael Horowitz, unveiled the detailed findings of a four-year investigation, which concluded that while there were FBI informants at the Capitol, no FBI officials were responsible for instigating the attack......

No, I’m just kidding. The president-elect actually published an item to his social media platform, shortly before midnight on Friday night, that cynically tried to move the goalposts.

“Wow! This is big news,” the Republican wrote. “What a disgrace. Let J-6 Hostages out NOW!!!”

This came on the heels of Vice President-elect JD Vance taking a related step, pretending that humiliating news for Jan. 6 conspiracy theorists should actually be seen as evidence that helps Jan. 6 conspiracy theorists.

But these efforts are literally unbelievable. As we discussed last week, too many Republicans and their allies have spent nearly four years pushing the idea that federal law enforcement instigated the insurrectionist assault. The absurd claims grew so common that they were given a name: The “fedsurrection“ narrative was rooted in the idea that it was the FBI, and not Trump’s rabid followers, that was responsible for the violence at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.....

Nevertheless, the incoming president is very likely to reference last week’s revelations when he prepares pardons for Jan. 6 criminals. In fact, as part of Time magazine’s latest cover story on Trump, published last week, the Republican not only said he intends to issue these pardons, he added that he hopes to do so “maybe” within “the first nine minutes” of his second term.

I’m not quite sure how that would work — perhaps he’ll interrupt his own inaugural address? — but time will tell.

As for the nature of Trump's plan, NBC News reported that the president-elect has expressed confusion about key elements — he’s said, for example, that he thinks most or all Jan. 6 defendants were being held in a Washington, D.C., jail, for example, when in fact only a handful of defendants are still being held pretrial — and even some of the Republican’s allies have expressed concern about his “level of awareness of the details.”
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