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BumRushDaShow

(144,778 posts)
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 03:51 AM Dec 29

Putin Ally Calls for Alaska's Return to Russia

Source: Newsweek

Published Dec 28, 2024 at 3:05 PM EST Updated Dec 28, 2024 at 4:18 PM EST


Russian TV host Vladimir Solovyov, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, recently called for Alaska's return to Russia during a recent Russian-state media program. Newsweek has reached out to Russia's foreign ministry and the U.S. State Department via email for comment.

Why It Matters

Alaska once belonged to Russia. In 1867, it was sold to the United States after then-President Andrew Johnson signed the Alaska Treaty. It gained the status of a state on January 3, 1959. Alaska and Russia are positioned about 53 miles apart at their closest point. Tensions around Russia and Alaska intensified in January 2024 when reports surfaced that Putin was looking into reobtaining Alaska, reviving an effort pushed by Russian media throughout the ongoing war in Ukraine that Moscow could seize the state.

Tensions remain high between North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and Russia amid the Russian-Ukraine war as NATO leaders have increasingly warned that direct conflict with Moscow is a realistic danger. This comes after Putin and senior Russian officials have repeatedly threatened nuclear escalation against Kyiv and its Western partners since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

Last month, Putin upped Moscow's nuclear rhetoric after the U.S. allowed Kyiv to use longer-range ATACMS to strike inside Russia, formalizing changes to his country's nuclear doctrine that lowers the threshold for atomic weapons use. Along with the nuclear threat, NATO members such as Germany and the Baltic states have accused Moscow of hybrid attacks and said after the Ukraine war, Moscow could then make a move on countries in the alliance.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-solovyov-calls-alaskas-return-russia-2006979

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Putin Ally Calls for Alaska's Return to Russia (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Dec 29 OP
Good Grief! How long are these ridiculous claims going to go on?? Rhiannon12866 Dec 29 #1
For as long as some greedy oligarch(s) will keep making big profits Justice matters. Dec 29 #16
Dueling dicks NotHardly Dec 29 #17
"Putin ally" - Not Trump? keithbvadu2 Dec 29 #2
Trump isn't so much an ally..... SergeStorms Dec 29 #32
Dear Lisa Murkowski, how about switching to the Democratic Party now? Walleye Dec 29 #3
She can't switch RazorbackExpat Thursday #47
In Albert Camus' play "Caligula," the emperor claimed the moon was his and ordered the army to capture it. C0RI0LANUS Dec 29 #4
Fun Fact: All russian territory east of Ukraine was conquered from natives. DetlefK Dec 29 #5
Excellent insight. Both internal empires are parallel except the Russians yelled "Eastward, Ho!" C0RI0LANUS Dec 29 #24
Excellent historical comparisom...and photos. brush Dec 29 #26
Thanks, brush, but the preceding DU-er takes the credit. BTW: Here is the film cosmonauts watch before launch. C0RI0LANUS Dec 29 #28
Same Russky also mentioned California in his spiel about recapturing Russian territory, as well as Hawaii. RVN VET71 Dec 29 #6
I think some of this BumRushDaShow Dec 29 #7
Not The First Time An Idiot There... GB_RN Dec 29 #9
We have a whole lunatic party of ones like that BumRushDaShow Dec 29 #12
"also mentioned California in his spiel about recapturing Russian territory" Polybius Dec 29 #15
There was a Russian fur trading fort-Fort Ross-north of San Francisco. BadgerMom Dec 29 #38
Yep. And also, the Russian River in Mendocino and Sonoma Counties. DickKessler Dec 30 #42
Yeah. No. GB_RN Dec 29 #8
And he'd need..... SergeStorms Dec 29 #33
Russia has become the real Mouse that Roared but with nukes RVN VET71 Thursday #46
Hmmm....Palin could shoot at those attacking commies from a helo or snowmachine Bengus81 Dec 29 #10
I wish some reporter would ask TFG bronxiteforever Dec 29 #11
How does one say The Madcap Dec 29 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 29 #14
Putin is clinically insane... GiqueCee Dec 29 #18
And we must add, his fart Trump in the mix. Dan Dec 29 #20
I have no doubt, that Trump would give Alaska to Russia for a face Dan Dec 29 #19
SOLOVYOV IS DELUTIONAL AZ8theist Dec 29 #21
I always thought it should be part of Canada. joanbarnes Dec 29 #22
Why? Russia sold it to the US back in the 19th Century. brush Dec 29 #27
Will Trump sell Alaska to Putin and keep the money for himself? LiberalFighter Dec 29 #23
In his DREAMS! AKwannabe Dec 29 #25
Don't give trump any ideas LetMyPeopleVote Dec 29 #29
How about we keep Alaska uncledad Dec 29 #30
Two words bdamomma Dec 29 #31
Oh, and by the way ... Seinan Sensei Dec 29 #34
How 'bout No. Iggo Dec 29 #35
I was waiting for this Figarosmom Dec 29 #36
I haven't googled it yet, but I'm pretty sure a President can't just give away a whole state. Iggo Dec 30 #40
When there is no one Figarosmom Dec 30 #41
The only good thing about the Andrew Johnson Administration heckles65 Dec 29 #37
Time to post this again Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 29 #39
Come and get it, bitch. nt okaawhatever Dec 30 #43
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA! And so forth! electric_blue68 Dec 30 #44
Look what tsf started BlueKota Tuesday #45
Dear Russia, RazorbackExpat Thursday #48

Justice matters.

(7,624 posts)
16. For as long as some greedy oligarch(s) will keep making big profits
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 11:55 AM
Dec 29

from that continuing sh!t show.

SergeStorms

(19,357 posts)
32. Trump isn't so much an ally.....
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 05:30 PM
Dec 29

as he is a fawning fan-boy, or a mewling sycophant, even. Trump worships Putin.

They both make me physically ill.

RazorbackExpat

(214 posts)
47. She can't switch
Thu Jan 2, 2025, 08:40 AM
Thursday

because she knows that switching from R to D in Alaska would be committing political suicide

C0RI0LANUS

(2,133 posts)
4. In Albert Camus' play "Caligula," the emperor claimed the moon was his and ordered the army to capture it.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 06:27 AM
Dec 29

DetlefK

(16,512 posts)
5. Fun Fact: All russian territory east of Ukraine was conquered from natives.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 06:59 AM
Dec 29

The original medieval kingdom of Russia, the Kievan Russ and its capital Kijv, stretched from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea, across what is modern-day Belarus and modern-day Ukraine. From there, it expanded east with various wars of conquest (the capital was relocated eastwards to Moscow) until it eventually reached the Pacific Ocean.

Maybe Russia should return all their stolen territories to the natives it has subjugated. Isn't it odd that the vast majority of taxpayer-money gets invested into Moscow and St. Petersburg, in classical ethnic-russian territory, while the eastern territories where other ethnicities live get next to nothing?

C0RI0LANUS

(2,133 posts)
24. Excellent insight. Both internal empires are parallel except the Russians yelled "Eastward, Ho!"
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 02:35 PM
Dec 29
19th-century US subjugants:





20th-century Czarist subjugants:




C0RI0LANUS

(2,133 posts)
28. Thanks, brush, but the preceding DU-er takes the credit. BTW: Here is the film cosmonauts watch before launch.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 04:28 PM
Dec 29


"White Sun of the Desert" (1970) is about a Soviet soldier fighting in Turkmenistan and is watched by cosmonauts for good luck.

RVN VET71

(2,803 posts)
6. Same Russky also mentioned California in his spiel about recapturing Russian territory, as well as Hawaii.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 08:09 AM
Dec 29

I know the Russians had established an outpost in California and may lay an absurd claim there. But Hawaii?

Anyway, I think Putin is smart enough to know the suggestion he take back Alaska is a stupid one. But it's interesting that one of his associates should make such idle dreams public. Russia can pummel a nation like Ukraine, sacrificing its own youth to do so. But on the international scale, sans nukes, Russia is militarily a feeble mouse -- thanks to Pooty-Poot.

(And, yes, the "nukes" thing is very concerning.)

BumRushDaShow

(144,778 posts)
7. I think some of this
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 08:14 AM
Dec 29

is to mock 45 and his insistence on "taking over" Canada, Greenland, and Panama.

GB_RN

(3,245 posts)
9. Not The First Time An Idiot There...
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 08:17 AM
Dec 29

Has made this statement. Probably the exact same asshole, I’d bet.

Polybius

(18,575 posts)
15. "also mentioned California in his spiel about recapturing Russian territory"
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 11:48 AM
Dec 29

When was Cali Russian territory?

BadgerMom

(2,998 posts)
38. There was a Russian fur trading fort-Fort Ross-north of San Francisco.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 07:19 PM
Dec 29

Fort Ross is still there as a California State Historic Park. It was occupied as a settlement from 1812-1842. The fort was the southernmost Russian outpost on the west coast of North America. My guess is the tsar might not have abandoned it if it had remained active until 1849 and the discovery of gold in the Sierra.

As far as a claim goes, I’m reminded of how my dog claims various bushes every time he takes a walk. Thirty years is nothing. Putin can pound sand. What an asshole.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipMOyX-ILCKPz70grm4xA8qSgJMJOtOu3zf_5MIz=s831-w831-h624-n-k-no

https://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=449



GB_RN

(3,245 posts)
8. Yeah. No.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 08:16 AM
Dec 29

We paid Russia for it. Not giving it back and you assholes can’t afford to buy it back.

You want it? Come and take it. See what happens. Of course, that assumes your troop transport ships will even float once loaded. Based on what I’m seeing of Russian military equipment involved in the War in Ukraine, I’m betting none of them are seaworthy. I’d also bet transport planes aren’t much better off, and I’m pretty sure most of your nukes would blow up in their silos.

(The Russians have never put much emphasis on routine maintenance like Western militaries do. A lot of their ships aren’t much better than garbage scows, as put by someone I know.)

The second most powerful army in Ukraine is a paper tiger.

SergeStorms

(19,357 posts)
33. And he'd need.....
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 05:38 PM
Dec 29

some troops to put aboard those troop transport ships. He's running out of those very quickly as well. The few who aren't killed or who defect to the Ukrainians are damned tired of fighting Putin's stupid ego-driven wars.

The Madcap

(679 posts)
13. How does one say
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 09:13 AM
Dec 29

"Fox News" in Russian? Solovyev would be working for them if he were American. He's a blathering fool.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

GiqueCee

(1,562 posts)
18. Putin is clinically insane...
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 12:06 PM
Dec 29

... and is determined to rule the world. The entire planet is in mortal danger as long as this putrid little man fouls it with his continued existence.

Dan

(4,173 posts)
19. I have no doubt, that Trump would give Alaska to Russia for a face
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 12:23 PM
Dec 29

Saving deal (for Trump) in Ukraine.

Failing that, I think Trump’s first term asking price was $10B.

AZ8theist

(6,587 posts)
21. SOLOVYOV IS DELUTIONAL
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 01:20 PM
Dec 29

The ridiculous things this psychopath has said on Russian TV is so over the top, not only can he not be taken seriously, one has to question his sanity.
Not only has he talked about "nuking" just about every Western capital, he claimed it would be the same as Sodom and Gomorrah.

His drooling blitherisms are increasingly unhinged:
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Vladimir_Solovyov

He's the "Baghdad Bob" of Russia

brush

(58,207 posts)
27. Why? Russia sold it to the US back in the 19th Century.
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 03:46 PM
Dec 29

It was called Seward's Folly at the time, 1867. The price was 7.2 million greenbacks. Sec'y Seward was ridiculed but he certainly has the last and huge laugh now as Alaska is worth thousands of times more withall of it's size and resources...and of course it's modern infrastructure that has been developed.

I doubt neither Russia of Canada can afford to buy it now.

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,931 posts)
29. Don't give trump any ideas
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 04:52 PM
Dec 29

Putin spent a great deal to re-elect trump and trump will be looking as to how to repay his debt to Putin

Iggo

(48,612 posts)
40. I haven't googled it yet, but I'm pretty sure a President can't just give away a whole state.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 04:09 AM
Dec 30

Figarosmom

(3,595 posts)
41. When there is no one
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 04:21 AM
Dec 30

To enforce the laws are we sure he will bother with them?

I'm not so sure there are people that would stop him.

heckles65

(612 posts)
37. The only good thing about the Andrew Johnson Administration
Sun Dec 29, 2024, 06:17 PM
Dec 29

We got Russia off the continent.

Even if Alaska was completely uninhabitable and didn't have a dime's worth of resources, it was worth it.

BlueKota

(3,765 posts)
45. Look what tsf started
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 02:00 PM
Tuesday

Hey if this is the way they want it, tsf's incoming administration should start by returning all of North America back to the Native Americans.

RazorbackExpat

(214 posts)
48. Dear Russia,
Thu Jan 2, 2025, 08:50 AM
Thursday

You accepted $7.2 million in American gold (equivalent to about a billion dollars today) to relieve yourself of a territory that you were unable to maintain. You legally gave up your claim to Alaska in 1867. Deal with it.

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