Russia rejects Trump's Ukraine peace proposals

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Source: The Hill

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov rejected proposals Monday floated by President-elect Trump’s allies to end the war in Ukraine, dealing a major setback for the incoming president’s hopes to freeze the conflict.

In an interview with Russian state-run media outlet TASS, Lavrov said Moscow has “not received any official signals regarding a settlement in Ukraine” but the Kremlin was resistant to those unofficial ideas.

“We are not happy, of course, with the proposals made by members of the Trump team to postpone Ukraine’s admission to NATO for 20 years and to station British and European peacekeeping forces in Ukraine,” he said, responding to leaked reports of Trump’s proposals.

Lavrov called for “reliable and legally binding agreements that would eliminate the root causes of the conflict and seal a mechanism precluding the possibility of their violation.”

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-rejects-trump-ukraine-peace-163428999.html

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[Attilatheblond]

1. Instead of BMOC, Trump is an international frat house failure

To no one's surprise.

[JoseBalow]

12. Flounder

[paleotn]

23. HA!

[sheshe2]

2. Wait wait wait a second here...

He said he would end the war in a day… one day!!! He promised!,

[fierywoman]

41. Well, it's a concept of an idea for Ukraine.

[sheshe2]

45. Yup...the Con's CONcept.

[NJCher]

3. settled it in a day, didn't ya' ?

Must have been your good friend Vlad working on your behalf.

[NJCher]

4. this jerk off isn't even "president" yet

What is he doing trying to negotiate something? Hasn't been inaugurated, either. Looks like death warmed over. Who would seriously negotiate with him?

[OMGWTF]

5. Hey Sergey, the "root" of the conflict is 100% Putin. Period. Fuck off and die.

[Biophilic]

6. Well, that comes as a big surprise.

[LudwigPastorius]

7. "...agreements that would eliminate the root causes of the conflict..."

The "root causes" would be the invasion by Russia.

Get the fuck out, and there's no more war, you assholes. That is Ukraine's position and the Biden administration's position.

[Irish_Dem]

8. Didn't Trump brag he could end the war in a day or two?

[Orrex]

14. He proposed to let Putin keep shitting in his mouth in exchange for peace

But since he was already happy to let Putin shit in his mouth, Vlad stood to gain nothing, so the deal fell through.

[Irish_Dem]

16. Sounds about right.

[Eyeball_Kid]

26. The fact is that Putin despises Trump and thinks he's an idiot.

Trump, however, believes that Putin and he are best buds. The Kremlin got a big laugh when Trump bragged about his "miracle negotiator" role. They'll have four years to kick him around and laugh their asses off. They know he's a joke. What Putin understands is the threat of annihilation. Nothing else. Trump and "reality" don't co-exist.

[Blue_Tires]

40. He said it would take just one phone call

The day after the election... Not even the day after inauguration; Donnie repeatedly boasted he'd fix the whole thing the day after the election...!

Jesus Fucking Christ voters are so fucking dumb 🙄

[Irish_Dem]

43. His voters won't even care if he doesn't stop the war.

And will change their view to his new one.

[Blue_Tires]

47. That's why they're a cult...

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

44. "I love the poorly educated."

[Walleye]

9. Didn't rush and Ukraine already make an agreement 30 years ago?

Or don’t the Russians think it was reliable and legally binding. Never make a deal with criminals.

[cstanleytech]

10. Putin and others in Russia want land for running gas and oil pipelines.

Their long term goal is to be able to sale oil and gas to the south eastern part of Europe without giving Ukraine a cut.

[Irish_Dem]

17. Trump will give it to Putin on the condition he gets a cut of the action.

It's pay to play only.

Of course the fact Putin helped install him into the WH is old business now.

[C_U_L8R]

11. Failing before he's even started

Is that a Trump motto or something?

[Justice matters.]

13. The conservative felon's promise to his stupid morons of a base...

End the Ukraine war on Day 1 was just another sham like his America First one was.

And they believed he would deliver...

[Grins]

15. The "root causes of the conflict" is the Russia state!

And its leader! And his apparatchiks who blindly do his bidding. That includes you, Lavrov!

[Martin68]

18. Lavrov called for "reliable and legally binding agreements that would eliminate the root causes of the conflict..."

In the words, he wants Russia to annex 30% of Ukraine.

[regnaD kciN]

33. ...with the remaining 70% to come as soon as Russia rebuilds its military.

[Martin68]

34. Exactly. Reminds me of the beginning of WWI when Neville Chamberlain allowed Nazi Germany to annex neighboring

countries to keep the peace. If we let Russia annex any part of Ukraine (after already ceding the Crimean peninsula), they will continue to annex neighboring countries the same way Nazi Germany did. We cannot allow this to happen.

[Evolve Dammit]

19. He ain't presidunt yet??

[DallasNE]

20. That Comes As No Surprise

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The Trump proposal fails to meet any of the conditions set forth by Putin. Indeed, one has to wonder if Trump is even aware of what those conditions are. This war is not currently ripe for an agreement to be reached. One side has to wear the other side down more than is currently the case. The best outcome would be for a successful assassin attack on Putin, but that is a long shot and not a job for Seal Team 6.. That could bring in another hard-liner but it should open the doors to dialog.

Indeed, the Trump proposal had so many flaws it does not bode well for future talks either. Not with the volatile Trump.

[Blue_Tires]

39. It's almost like he doesn't have the slightest idea what he's doing...

[wolfie001]

21. They know they don't have to take Diaper Don seriously

They'll keep with the carrot and stick for the next 4 years. Their goal will be to chip away at our support for a Free Ukraine.

[louis-t]

22. And Ukraine wouldn't accept the terms either.

He's a fucking nitwit. Nobody's afraid of you except your own crowd of dumbass republicans.

[Eyeball_Kid]

28. Trump is terrified of Putin. He pretends to be an equal, but Putin sees through it.

IMO, Putin hates Trump BECAUSE he's an American. He's ALWAYS wanted to destroy the US. But Trump believes that he can destroy the US by himself and Putin will reward him. It's a great and tragic fantasy. Trump has no idea how intensely Putin hates him and the nation he governs. Anyone can see it but Trump.

[Aussie105]

24. 'Vote for me and I will be so powerful, and just make a few phone calls

and stop the Russia-Ukraine war, and the Israeli-Middle East wars, within a day!
Trust me on this, would I lie to you?'

That is the doctrine according to Trump. Too bad voters went for that.

[Blue_Tires]

38. America has literally become too stupid to save itself 😔

[Buddyzbuddy]

25. So, does that mean it moves to day 2, "things to do"?

[True Dough]

27. I sure as hell ain't rootin' for Donny Numbnutz

but Russia doesn't have much say in how things will end. They've expended much of their elite forces and a good portion of their best military equipment, all for modest territorial gains (and a few losses within Russia).

Even "The Art of the Deal" shyster has to realize he has the upper hand here, along with the rest of NATO. Don't for one second think that Russia gets to dictate the outcome of this horrid war that THEY started.

[Eyeball_Kid]

29. That would mean that Trump has to join with NATO, but that belies his brand.

Trump MUST dismiss NATO because for years, he's made it known that he hates Europeans and loves Putin. THAT'S PART OF HIS BRAND. He won't abandon any of it, even if Putin wipes the floor with him, Trump will NOT side with NATO. Ever. That would look too much like defeat for Trump, that the Europeans were right all along and Trump was wrong. Not a good look for Donny.

[True Dough]

30. Same Donny

who sided with Musk over many of his MAGA disciples. He's unpredictable in some respects. You just never know.

[regnaD kciN]

35. You know in this case...

…because oppose Pootie-Poot, and the Pee Tape gets released.

[surfered]

31. Apparently the security guarantees Ukraine got in exchange for giving up its...

nuclear weapons for its independence were not legally binding on Russia.

[regnaD kciN]

32. COMING UP AT 11: Trump rejects own peace plan...

[Mblaze]

36. Even if Russia took all of Ukraine

They would still have NATO on their border.

[Blue_Tires]

37. BUT TRUMP SAID HE'D END THE WAR WITH JUST ONE PHONE CALL!!

Naturally the horseshoe left has been pretty damned silent since the election... No saving of TikTok, no instant peace in Ukraine, no instant peace in Gaza, and their boy Donnie is blabbing nonstop about expanding the American empire...

[oasis]

42. No Nobel Peace Prize for you Donny Boy.

[OverBurn]

46. NATO should have fast tracked Ukraine from the get go. Very disappointing. The World were cowards.