Chip Roy on Johnson: 'I don't believe he has the votes'
Source: The Hill
12/31/24 11:05 AM ET
Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) said Tuesday that Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) does not have the votes to keep the gavel and that he remains undecided on whether he can support the Louisiana Republican in the Friday floor vote, despite President-elect Trump endorsing Johnson.
I remain undecided, as do a number of my colleagues, because we saw so many of the failures last year that we are concerned about that might limit or inhibit our ability to advance the presidents agenda, Roy said Tuesday on Varney & Co. on Fox Business. Later, Roy said Johnson does not yet have the support to be Speaker. Right now, I dont believe he has the votes on Friday, Roy said.
Several other Republicans including Reps. Andy Harris (Md.), Andy Biggs (Ariz.) and Victoria Spartz (Ind.) are continuing to withhold support for Johnson despite Trumps endorsement. Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), who has said he will vote for a person other than Johnson, has also signaled that Trumps endorsement did not change his mind.
Johnson can only afford one Republican defection in the Jan. 3 Speaker election, assuming all members are present and voting for a candidate. The Houses incoming 215 Democrats are all expected to vote for House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), and Republicans are expected to have 219 members in attendance that day.
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5061200-chip-roy-undecided-mike-johnson-speaker/
As a note, there is what I call "funky math" that goes on with the tally and it has to do with who is voting and whether they list themselves as "present" instead (which impacts the total to calculate "the majority" ).
This was illustrated with the 15 votes that McCarthy went through in 2021 -
(above from here (NYT) - Vote Count: McCarthy Elected House Speaker After 15 Ballots
The operative thing -
So in the 2021 example, although "216 - 213" for vote #14 looks like he "won", he didn't because for the "total" of 432, he needed "217". In vote #15, the "total" dropped to "428" (with the others now "present" so not included in the "total" ), and that meant he only needed "215" for a "majority" (out of 428) and got "216".
So at vote time, if there are 434 (with Gaetz gone already), then "a majority" would require at least 218 votes. I.e.,
434 / 2 = 217 (tie) + 1 = 218
and the GOP currently has 219 (assuming all are there and none are "voting present" ), thus the mention of "can only lose 1 vote" thing.
SidneyR
(130 posts)Who else is a possible candidate for the Repubs?
Keepthesoulalive
(838 posts)Hopefully the media will use a bullhorn to announce it to the masses.
ColinC
(11,041 posts)sop
(11,769 posts)Ray Bruns
(4,767 posts)Ford_Prefect
(8,227 posts)I am not talking about phantasy candidates. I mean who among the remainder GOP could conceivably get the job?
PortTack
(34,904 posts)ColinC
(11,041 posts)If only 428 vote this time, Jeffries wins with 215 votes
iemanja
(55,005 posts)He also needs a majority and couldnt get it without Republican votes, which wont happen.
ColinC
(11,041 posts)I agree he won't win, but if enough Republicans drop out, it can create a fluke if the Dems stay unified and consistent.
Remember: the left number in the OP is the total number, and the majority of that number is what wins.
Total Dem seats right now is 215.
iemanja
(55,005 posts)It didnt happen before during the GOP speakership battles. It wont happen now either.
ColinC
(11,041 posts)Although many repuican members seem very volatile and potentially driven by the kind of self interest that might not be satisfied by towing the line... could be interesting.
comradebillyboy
(10,552 posts)I would be popping popcorn to watch the shitshow.
mountain grammy
(27,411 posts)I can only hope. 👽
ColinC
(11,041 posts)🤞
mdbl
(5,544 posts)I mean the choices of awful repug candidates is so vast it's hard to choose.,
BumRushDaShow
(144,778 posts)who spent a whole weekend in a FAILED attempt at becoming the SOH, had his name brought up again.