Vegas Cybertruck Bomber Who Called for 'Purge' of Dems Deemed Not a 'Risk' to Public

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: MEDIAite

Jan 4th, 2025, 7:22 pm


The man police say committed suicide before detonating explosives outside the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas Wednesday was deemed not to be a threat to himself or the public after he sought mental health treatment, CNN reported Saturday night.

Investigators in Vegas say Matthew Livelsberger, a 37-year-old active-duty Greene Beret, injured seven people in the blast which caused minimal damage to the building but injured seven bystanders. The rented Tesla Cybertruck Livelsberger was driving also sustained significant damage.

Police said on Friday that Livelsberger left behind two messages that were critical of Democrats and American culture. Little else has been confirmed about the decorated war veteran.

Per CNN’s Natasha Chen, Livelsberger recently sought mental health treatment through the Department of Veterans Affairs and was found not to have been homicidal or suicidal.

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/vegas-cybertruck-bomber-who-called-for-purge-of-dems-deemed-not-a-risk-to-public-after-he-sought-va-mental-health-help/

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Full headline: Vegas Cybertruck Bomber Who Called for ‘Purge’ of Dems Deemed Not a ‘Risk’ to Public After He Sought VA Mental Health Help

Because "he didn't fit 'the description'"?

[samnsara]

1. well at least hes out of the gene pool...

[NotHardly]

45. True... but it does not make me encouraged by their "intel" ability

[multigraincracker]

2. I had a cop stop and talk to me.

About a. van like mine used in a storage unit break in. After I got out, he said u could go because I didn’t look like the type to be breaking into storage units.
Thinking about a new hobby.

[GB_RN]

32. You Don't Look The Type...

Which begs the (rhetorical) question, “What does the type who breaks into storage units look like?”🤦‍♂️

Talk about giant douchebag- levels of stereotyping. 🙄

[IcyPeas]

3. .... "he sought mental health treatment,..."

Has it been reported whether or not he was prescribed any medication?

[2naSalit]

4. Did he...

Ever actually SEE anyone or was he on a waiting list?

[IcyPeas]

6. They keep mentioning PTSD. But, yeah, i dont know if he actually saw anyone.

[2naSalit]

9. Last time I heard...

Anything about veterans' mental health services it was that they had long waiting lists for such services.

The word "sought" seems to imply that he probably made an appointment but unclear of anything after that.

[thesquanderer]

18. re: "The word 'sought' seems to imply that he probably made an appointment but unclear of anything after that."

OP says he "was found not to have been homicidal or suicidal." So he must have seen someone and not merely been on a waiting list, for someone to have made that determination.

The linked article goes further, "He had visited the military Behavioral Health program multiple times in recent months and was diagnosed with depression last year. But he had not been assessed to be a risk to harm himself or others." So yeah, he was evaluated.

[2naSalit]

21. Thanks.

[taxi]

28. A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse

Let me posit that he was not evaluated. He was both suicidal and homicidal, there was either no diagnosis or an incorrect diagnosis.
The process had failed him. He most likely would have first been seen by a medic or nurse, who would then determine what to pass on to a primary care doctor. The PCP (primary care physician) would then follow the same assessment guidelines and refer him to the Behavioral Health Program. Once again an assessment would made and a determination of a course of action would follow. It turns out he was suicidal. It turns out that there were 7 people nearby whose lives meant nothing to him. Anyone capable of purposely creating a potentially fatal event in the presence of innocents is homicidal and the fact that his death was from a self-inflicted gunshot and not from an error in judgement in attempt to escape the carnage makes him suicidal as well.
I'm sorry, you can tell me all day long that he wasn't homicidal or suicidal. I won't believe it.

[thesquanderer]

43. He WAS evaluated. Whether he was evaluated WELL is a different question.

And regarding your last line, I doubt anyone has ever said he wasn't homicidal or suicidal. I mean... duh!

[GB_RN]

34. It's Not Just The VA...

Behaviors Health (now the preferred term for psychiatric services) is overwhelmed everywhere. It was always lagging behind need, but the pandemic caused it to go from concerning to alarmingly slow. Try getting an appointment with someone. Especially if you can’t afford private practice BH therapists. Practitioners with major/academic medical centers, which pretty much have to take Medicaid, are more than swamped. It can take months to see someone for an initial assessment.

The only other group that compares would be dermatology. Why treat cancerous moles when you can make big bucks in private practice, injecting collagen into people’s lips/cheeks; and lifts, tucks and enhancements (butt, breast and calves. Yes, calf implants.) ? Oh, can’t forget Botox. Not being able to show facial expressions (and adding to that, getting too much Botox and looking like Matt Gaetz with his raised-at-the-end eyebrows) is of far less importance than not having wrinkles around your eyes, forehead and mouth.🤦‍♂️🙄👎

[Historic NY]

20. Interesting since he was still active duty military...

that the had him on leave. Appears that it was terminal leave,

[StarryNite]

33. I would like to know those answers too.

[johnnyfins]

5. Just as I thought

No specific beefs with Democratic policy, just a general "They are ruining the Federal Government and the Military". This psycho was a victim of propaganda and mental illness...

[Blue Full Moon]

13. The military is cranking out extremist.

Most will admit to being Nazi. But Muslim extremists also happen. Seems to have started around Reagan. I worked with a lot of ex military, the older guys don't act that way. The other post about AM radio. Almost all of the Reagan era and younger listened to Rush Limbaugh and the rest of hate radio non stop. In fact, it was so bad, that if you changed the station in a vehicle when driving it with no one else in the vehicle, it they would get angry and track down who drove it last and threatened them.

[rampartd]

17. about reagan i started noticing the radical christians

[Martin68]

35. I would suggest the military doesn't "crank out" militants. Violence-prone militants are attracted to military service

because they like authoritarian discipline, worship guns, and seek the opportunity to kill people. But they are a very small minority of the total military population.

[Blue Full Moon]

38. Cookie cutter

All of them that I worked with and that is hundreds at one location. Like said before they were in from 1980 to present. Before that those guys don't act that way. Majority were from the Navy. Infact the Navy shooter who said that was his rail gun had worked there for a while.

[not fooled]

24. Doesn't Fox Propaganda play at military bases?

Personnel are probably steeped in this sh*t, from the get-go as soon as they enlist.

[Blue Full Moon]

39. Yes indeed

[maxrandb]

7. The promised purge of Democrats

just won 49.8% of the vote in the right majority combination of states for the highest political office in the country.

If he hadn't committed suicide, he was Donnie Dipshit cabinet material.

If you've watched, or read the American "press" over the past 12 years, you must "accept" that the "purge of Democrats" is just a winning political strategy"!

It's just the "other-side" of the same coin, don't you know?

BTW - I've heard the same things this guy has said on over 2,000 AM Radio Stations in every nook and cranny in this country.

It's a feature, not a bug.

[Blue Full Moon]

8. Mental illness help

That's a problem in the military. I doubt it's been fixed. It took over a year before my son's friend could get help. He was persistent in trying.

[taxi]

10. and was found not to have been homicidal or suicidal.

Got it
It sounds like DOGE has already been implemented here.
Question 1 - Have you ever committed suicide?
Question 2 - Other than the people you have shot, stabbed, strangled, or tortured to death in your profession do you consider yourself homicidal?

[mopinko]

11. modern psychiatry is still in the dark ages.

i had a full neuro/psyche exam several yrs ago. it’s a checklist of t/f questions.
it’s not hard to figure out the ‘right’ answers. someone asked him if he wanted to die, and he said no.
so he was good to go.

they may have given him meds. it’s not uncommon for ppl to start meds, feel better, and finally b able to do the stuff they’ve been obsessing about but cant pull off.

[slightlv]

15. And then those drugs stop

Working so well. You up the dosage if you can, or spend weeks trying to wean yourself off them and try something else. Some of us hate docs suo we hurry on with they've initially given us, I've been on venlafaxine, aka Effexor at the highest dose and was told it would years safely come off it. So doc added second med to kick the Effexor into gear. Now once again I find they're not acting the way they should. Ten years to tritite off this drug get system cleaned out and ready to try something new. To do otherwise is tick probable suicide. Thats not a good meet with me, I can almost talk myself it now. week

They scream about us taking pain meds... Coming off those SSRIs is he k of a lot harder and screws with your he'd than any of our pot,,,grrrr

[multigraincracker]

29. Gave me tremors. Took them in the 90s and

still have tremors from them. One of those rare side effects.

[OldBaldy1701E]

47. I got into it with a mental health person once.

I said that anything that has withdrawal symptoms is, by definition, addictive. He was determined to tell me that this was not so, and certain not SSRIs.

Jump forward to a year later. All the Big Pharma companies are releasing new guidelines about using SSRIs because there is a risk of addiction. Something that doctor swore would not apply to SSRIs because they did not do that at all.

So, was he really in the dark about this, or was he just trying to protect his Big Pharma overlords? I was never able to determine this. However, having had a mother who was an emergency room nurse for over four decades, I can tell you that there are doctors who are in with the drug reps and will do what they can to protect that extra grift.

[slightlv]

12. Hopefully he hadn't reproduced yet. Let him be the last of his line.

[jvill]

27. He had a new baby

[Seinan Sensei]

14. If someone denies suicidal ideation

… there’s not much that can be done
If someone endorses homicidal ideation, then there is a duty to warn - assuming a specific person is named

[The Unmitigated Gall]

16. Hollowed-out propaganda zombie. nt

[Puppyjive]

19. I'm pretty much not friends anymore

With my veteran friends. I have a handful that are ok, but most of them have gone to the dark side. They believe all the bullshit. I don't know what has got hold of the military, but it is rotten to the core now. The Republicans are destroying diversity. Diversity is what holds an all volunteer force together.

[Blue Full Moon]

40. Yes I have seen it.

I always thought that the ones towing the line after being out for decades as being weak minded. But reprogramming is hard. My Brother in Law was a republican and he was an MP. His beliefs and his politics were 180 degrees out of phase. He finally quit calling himself a republican and voted democratic.

[wolfie001]

22. When I was a teenager in the 1970s, our society didn't adulate/worship the military

Vietnam War taught us not too. It's time now to return to that thinking. It's not unpatriotic, it's more like what Ike said in 1961:

*** All of those Marvel etc. superhero movies are propaganda for the military. Once the bullets fly, in real life, everyone hunkers down and starts hoping and praying just to survive. This LV clown

[multigraincracker]

30. Was standing in line at the store and guy was talking about

his time in Nam and the other guy said “thank you for your serves”. He said F you I was drafted.

[wolfie001]

42. Wow!

What a teachable moment!

[Bluethroughu]

23. Just asking...if someone in our military says Democrats need to be killed,

Wouldn't that be cause for dishonorable discharge? WTF is going on with the police and military????

[jmowreader]

26. Possibly an administrative discharge but not a DD

Controlling authority is paragraph 5-17 (other designated physical or mental conditions) of Army Regulation 635-200, Administrative Separations. If you're too screwed-up to stay in the Army - wanting to lay Washington, DC, to siege to remove anyone who isn't a Republican from the government sounds like he qualifies - they can get you out in a day's time if so necessary.

Dishonorable discharges are only for soldiers who commit serious crimes, and just saying you want to storm DC to drag off all the Democrats isn't a crime (you have to actually storm DC to drag off all the Democrats) isn't a crime. But...I sure wouldn't want one of these guys running one of my Operational Detachment Alphas, like he was doing before he blowed himself up real good.

[City Lights]

25. MAGA are a violent people and a clear and present danger to society. nt

[Orrex]

31. Did an AI write that?

...injured seven people in the blast which caused minimal damage to the building but injured seven bystanders.

So wait. How many were injured? I'm guessing seven?

[Martin68]

36. An awful lot of speculation in this thread. I'm waiting for more actual information. What's the point of speculating

whether he had seen a doctor, how many times he might have seen a doctor, whether or not he wqs prescribed medication, and through what process he was "deemed not a danger to the public?" I suggest exerting a small amount of patience and waiting for some facts instead of wildly speculating in a vacuum.

[Baitball Blogger]

37. "He didn't look the type," means he was blond and handome-looking.

And when you look at the FBI photos for the Jan. 6 insurrectionists, you can see how someone can make that mistake.

[NotHardly]

41. So, not a terrorist like Luigi .... hmmmm

[hadEnuf]

44. Impressionable young kids are bombarded with right-wing propaganda from the moment they sign up.

The propaganda lights the match and the crazies become the fire.

[Crowman2009]

46. It had the opposite affect on me.

Once I left and had my one & only Iraq deployment, it started me on a left-wing trajectory. Of course luckily myself and a lot of other Marines were more into getting laid, watching porn, cranking up music and drinking; than right-wing fuckery at the time.