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BumRushDaShow

(144,829 posts)
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 04:53 AM Yesterday

Health insurers limit coverage of prosthetic limbs, questioning their medical necessity

Source: ABC News

January 6, 2025, 5:20 PM


When Michael Adams was researching health insurance options in 2023, he had one very specific requirement: coverage for prosthetic limbs. Adams, 51, lost his right leg to cancer 40 years ago, and he has worn out more legs than he can count. He picked a gold plan on the Colorado health insurance marketplace that covered prosthetics, including microprocessor-controlled knees like the one he has used for many years. That function adds stability and helps prevent falls.

But when his leg needed replacing last January after about five years of everyday use, his new marketplace health plan wouldn't authorize it. The roughly $50,000 leg with the electronically controlled knee wasn't medically necessary, the insurer said, even though Colorado law leaves that determination up to the patient's doctor, and his has prescribed a version of that leg for many years, starting when he had employer-sponsored coverage.

"The electronic prosthetic knee is life-changing," said Adams, who lives in Lafayette, Colorado, with his wife and two kids. Without it, "it would be like going back to having a wooden leg like I did when I was a kid." The microprocessor in the knee responds to different surfaces and inclines, stiffening up if it detects movement that indicates its user is falling. People who need surgery to replace a joint typically don't encounter similar coverage roadblocks.

In 2021, 1.5 million knee or hip joint replacements were performed in United States hospitals and hospital-owned ambulatory facilities, according to the federal Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, or AHRQ. The median price for a total hip or knee replacement without complications at top orthopedic hospitals was just over $68,000 in 2020, according to one analysis, though health plans often negotiate lower rates. To people in the amputee community, the coverage disparity amounts to discrimination.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/health-insurers-limit-coverage-prosthetic-limbs-questioning-medical/story?id=117393625

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Health insurers limit coverage of prosthetic limbs, questioning their medical necessity (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Yesterday OP
And these CEOs wonder what precipitated the tragic murder of one of their own... hlthe2b Yesterday #1
+ riversedge Yesterday #10
I'll BUMP the hell out of that post........... Bengus81 Yesterday #13
Every last CEO running a company that takes AllyCat Yesterday #2
You want it to go away? OldBaldy1701E Yesterday #6
Wtf? Voltaire2 Yesterday #9
I don't have health insurance. OldBaldy1701E 14 hrs ago #30
Insurance mamacita75 14 hrs ago #32
In many ways, it is exactly that. And, we let it keep on keeping on. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E 2 hrs ago #37
You want it to go away? AllyCat 15 hrs ago #24
Well, my suggestion was less messy... OldBaldy1701E 14 hrs ago #29
Mine makes a greater impression. AllyCat 12 hrs ago #36
The greed is out of control. Joinfortmill Yesterday #3
Medical Necessary bmichaelh Yesterday #4
Bean counters practicing medicine...... Eff 'em with a cactus. lastlib Yesterday #5
Thus confirming health insurance does actually cost an arm and a leg ColinC Yesterday #7
The obvious answer is to rip the limbs off of a few executives Orrex Yesterday #8
Mario is coming... Prairie Gates 21 hrs ago #19
Universal healthcare for all. Eliminate health insurance permanently. Internal and external review of program mechanics. Magoo48 Yesterday #11
⬆⬆⬆THIS⬆⬆⬆ Think. Again. 14 hrs ago #27
The cruelty is the point. 2naSalit Yesterday #12
Yep sadly...as they laugh and clink their drink glasses together in a toast Bengus81 Yesterday #14
Years ago I had a friend whose daughter was born without an arm. milestogo 23 hrs ago #15
OMG. AllyCat 15 hrs ago #25
So, they wouldn't even consider the child's Ilsa 14 hrs ago #28
Add to that - because its a growing child milestogo 14 hrs ago #31
Business model is now openly " just pay us and shut the F up" Attilatheblond 22 hrs ago #16
Then the people who made this new policy should have a limb removed. sakabatou 21 hrs ago #17
Prosthetic limbs will hereinafter be called Vanity Limbs Prairie Gates 21 hrs ago #18
Exactly mamacita75 14 hrs ago #33
If he hasn't already done so, Michael Adams needs to reach out to Colorado's Second Congressional District generalbetrayus 20 hrs ago #20
Maybe if they lost limbs they would understand the need and importance of prosthetics? Pachamama 20 hrs ago #21
Insurer: "As long as you can hop on one leg, sorry. Request denied." Vinca 20 hrs ago #22
It's just a flesh wound JoseBalow 19 hrs ago #23
SERIOUSLY? Jilly_in_VA 15 hrs ago #26
Where's the investigation? CEOs should be dragged in and made to answer. IcyPeas 14 hrs ago #34
My son lost a leg at 17 buzzycrumbhunger 13 hrs ago #35

hlthe2b

(107,018 posts)
1. And these CEOs wonder what precipitated the tragic murder of one of their own...
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 06:06 AM
Yesterday

I detest them too, albeit I could never condone that specific crime.

AllyCat

(17,281 posts)
2. Every last CEO running a company that takes
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 06:36 AM
Yesterday

$ from people for care and then don’t pay out is a thief at best and a murderer at worst.

Health insurance needs to die as an industry. The CEOs are to blame for allowing this crime to continue.

Luigi speaks for many of us.

Too bad the source here is Nazi Broadcasting Company and not credible.

OldBaldy1701E

(6,740 posts)
6. You want it to go away?
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 07:10 AM
Yesterday

Remove the mandatory laws about it. The fact that we have to have it is what keeps it going. You remove the fact that the law requires it and their massive profits would start to drop like a stone. That would remove a lot of their power and influence.

That is assuming lawmakers don't get railroaded into making it illegal to try anything that might upset the vaunted insurance business. Which I would not put past any of them.

Voltaire2

(14,964 posts)
9. Wtf?
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 08:24 AM
Yesterday

This idiotic talking point is from the original ACA rollout that included a very small fee for people who opted out of coverage. The ‘mandate’ was never compulsory, and the rightwing outrage was entirely manufactured.

You go right ahead and not have any health insurance. Good luck!

OldBaldy1701E

(6,740 posts)
30. I don't have health insurance.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 06:45 PM
14 hrs ago

I have a joke that claims to be health insurance. And, even that will be gone soon enough due to inability to pay. Hell, we may be homeless in a few months the way things are going. There is no help out there. I have looked.

Anyway, I was responding to the person who mentioned that they wanted to know how to make it 'go away'. I offered a suggestion. If you do not approve of it, whatever. However, I was referring to all insurance. Like the kind you have to have to get a drivers license. Or the kind you have to have to run a business. Or the kind you have to have to build a house. There are plenty of instances where insurance is required by law. Since that is the case, one will never be able to get rid of it without getting rid of the 'safety net' that mandatory compulsion affords.

I hope that helps.

AllyCat

(17,281 posts)
36. Mine makes a greater impression.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 08:40 PM
12 hrs ago

I also disagreed with the mandate to buy a private product. But making it go away means those of us who pay have to pay for everyone who doesn’t.

Universal health care is the way, but eating the rich will solve our looming hunger issues.

Joinfortmill

(16,717 posts)
3. The greed is out of control.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 06:56 AM
Yesterday

There's going to be a seismic change in the U. S. A. It's already begun with the mass exodus from MSM to independent outlets. It's gonna be a rough ride until we get there, but we will get there. RESIST.

bmichaelh

(652 posts)
4. Medical Necessary
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 06:57 AM
Yesterday

Insurers abuse the system by denying coverage by saying its not medically necessary.

lastlib

(25,014 posts)
5. Bean counters practicing medicine...... Eff 'em with a cactus.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 07:09 AM
Yesterday

I have had a SEEETHING hatred of for-profit medical insurance ever since 1987, when they decided that my sister's life wasn't "medically necessary," and cost them too much profit.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Make that cactus a saguaro!

Orrex

(64,404 posts)
8. The obvious answer is to rip the limbs off of a few executives
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 08:10 AM
Yesterday

Two per executive should be a good start.

Magoo48

(5,589 posts)
11. Universal healthcare for all. Eliminate health insurance permanently. Internal and external review of program mechanics.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 08:48 AM
Yesterday

Bengus81

(7,543 posts)
14. Yep sadly...as they laugh and clink their drink glasses together in a toast
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 09:17 AM
Yesterday

of how many BILLIONS of $$$$ they saved the Corporation on now denying limbs. Sick,sick FUCKS........

milestogo

(18,428 posts)
15. Years ago I had a friend whose daughter was born without an arm.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 09:37 AM
23 hrs ago

The insurance company didn't want to pay for a prosthetic arm because- she didn't lose an arm, she never had one to begin with. Not their problem.

Ilsa

(62,313 posts)
28. So, they wouldn't even consider the child's
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 06:22 PM
14 hrs ago

emotional and social development? How corrupt, coldhearted, vicious. Fuck them.

milestogo

(18,428 posts)
31. Add to that - because its a growing child
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 06:53 PM
14 hrs ago

she's going to need one prosthetic arm after another. So the need is never going to end. I guess its the ultimate pre-existing condition.

sakabatou

(43,326 posts)
17. Then the people who made this new policy should have a limb removed.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 11:52 AM
21 hrs ago

Maybe then they'll see that they're needed.

generalbetrayus

(681 posts)
20. If he hasn't already done so, Michael Adams needs to reach out to Colorado's Second Congressional District
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 12:18 PM
20 hrs ago

representative Democrat Joe Neguse, who lives in Lafayette. I'm pretty sure he will get a sympathetic hearing.

IcyPeas

(22,847 posts)
34. Where's the investigation? CEOs should be dragged in and made to answer.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 07:05 PM
14 hrs ago

This is criminal .

buzzycrumbhunger

(927 posts)
35. My son lost a leg at 17
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 07:28 PM
13 hrs ago

Rampaging Strep infection that took six surgeries in seven days before they finally took the whole thing to get ahead of it.

Thanks to the Shriners, we then spent six weeks in their Tampa hospital (a parent is allowed to stay in a motel-type room for free!) getting rehab and fit for a prosthetic. They eventually made a second leg and provided a cool wheelchair because they knew once he turned 18, we’d be fucked—and we were.

He outgrew his prosthesis in his mid 20s and it wasn’t until he was over 40 that he met someone at work who put him in touch with a clinic that did a few freebies. He now has a new, improved leg (nothing terribly fancy, but a better knee than his first ones) at no cost. All these years, he’s tried to apply for help from SSI, etc. and no one would help him. He was able to get around, feed himself, and go to school, so would never qualify for aid. It took a random encounter to get free help.

It’s disgusting. The so-called healthcare industry serves no real purpose but to skim money off people for providing as few services as possible in order to reward stockholders.

Just another reason these arseholes should fear the coming Luigi imitators. It’s beyond time for healthcare for ALL.

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