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BumRushDaShow

(150,522 posts)
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 05:53 AM Jan 2025

Health insurers limit coverage of prosthetic limbs, questioning their medical necessity

Source: ABC News

January 6, 2025, 5:20 PM


When Michael Adams was researching health insurance options in 2023, he had one very specific requirement: coverage for prosthetic limbs. Adams, 51, lost his right leg to cancer 40 years ago, and he has worn out more legs than he can count. He picked a gold plan on the Colorado health insurance marketplace that covered prosthetics, including microprocessor-controlled knees like the one he has used for many years. That function adds stability and helps prevent falls.

But when his leg needed replacing last January after about five years of everyday use, his new marketplace health plan wouldn't authorize it. The roughly $50,000 leg with the electronically controlled knee wasn't medically necessary, the insurer said, even though Colorado law leaves that determination up to the patient's doctor, and his has prescribed a version of that leg for many years, starting when he had employer-sponsored coverage.

"The electronic prosthetic knee is life-changing," said Adams, who lives in Lafayette, Colorado, with his wife and two kids. Without it, "it would be like going back to having a wooden leg like I did when I was a kid." The microprocessor in the knee responds to different surfaces and inclines, stiffening up if it detects movement that indicates its user is falling. People who need surgery to replace a joint typically don't encounter similar coverage roadblocks.

In 2021, 1.5 million knee or hip joint replacements were performed in United States hospitals and hospital-owned ambulatory facilities, according to the federal Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, or AHRQ. The median price for a total hip or knee replacement without complications at top orthopedic hospitals was just over $68,000 in 2020, according to one analysis, though health plans often negotiate lower rates. To people in the amputee community, the coverage disparity amounts to discrimination.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/health-insurers-limit-coverage-prosthetic-limbs-questioning-medical/story?id=117393625

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Health insurers limit coverage of prosthetic limbs, questioning their medical necessity (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2025 OP
And these CEOs wonder what precipitated the tragic murder of one of their own... hlthe2b Jan 2025 #1
+ riversedge Jan 2025 #10
I'll BUMP the hell out of that post........... Bengus81 Jan 2025 #13
Every last CEO running a company that takes AllyCat Jan 2025 #2
You want it to go away? OldBaldy1701E Jan 2025 #6
Wtf? Voltaire2 Jan 2025 #9
I don't have health insurance. OldBaldy1701E Jan 2025 #30
Insurance mamacita75 Jan 2025 #32
In many ways, it is exactly that. And, we let it keep on keeping on. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jan 2025 #37
You want it to go away? AllyCat Jan 2025 #24
Well, my suggestion was less messy... OldBaldy1701E Jan 2025 #29
Mine makes a greater impression. AllyCat Jan 2025 #36
The greed is out of control. Joinfortmill Jan 2025 #3
Medical Necessary bmichaelh Jan 2025 #4
Bean counters practicing medicine...... Eff 'em with a cactus. lastlib Jan 2025 #5
Thus confirming health insurance does actually cost an arm and a leg ColinC Jan 2025 #7
The obvious answer is to rip the limbs off of a few executives Orrex Jan 2025 #8
Mario is coming... Prairie Gates Jan 2025 #19
Universal healthcare for all. Eliminate health insurance permanently. Internal and external review of program mechanics. Magoo48 Jan 2025 #11
⬆⬆⬆THIS⬆⬆⬆ Think. Again. Jan 2025 #27
The cruelty is the point. 2naSalit Jan 2025 #12
Yep sadly...as they laugh and clink their drink glasses together in a toast Bengus81 Jan 2025 #14
Years ago I had a friend whose daughter was born without an arm. milestogo Jan 2025 #15
OMG. AllyCat Jan 2025 #25
So, they wouldn't even consider the child's Ilsa Jan 2025 #28
Add to that - because its a growing child milestogo Jan 2025 #31
Business model is now openly " just pay us and shut the F up" Attilatheblond Jan 2025 #16
Then the people who made this new policy should have a limb removed. sakabatou Jan 2025 #17
Prosthetic limbs will hereinafter be called Vanity Limbs Prairie Gates Jan 2025 #18
Exactly mamacita75 Jan 2025 #33
If he hasn't already done so, Michael Adams needs to reach out to Colorado's Second Congressional District generalbetrayus Jan 2025 #20
Maybe if they lost limbs they would understand the need and importance of prosthetics? Pachamama Jan 2025 #21
Insurer: "As long as you can hop on one leg, sorry. Request denied." Vinca Jan 2025 #22
It's just a flesh wound JoseBalow Jan 2025 #23
SERIOUSLY? Jilly_in_VA Jan 2025 #26
Where's the investigation? CEOs should be dragged in and made to answer. IcyPeas Jan 2025 #34
My son lost a leg at 17 buzzycrumbhunger Jan 2025 #35

hlthe2b

(109,059 posts)
1. And these CEOs wonder what precipitated the tragic murder of one of their own...
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 07:06 AM
Jan 2025

I detest them too, albeit I could never condone that specific crime.

AllyCat

(17,774 posts)
2. Every last CEO running a company that takes
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 07:36 AM
Jan 2025

$ from people for care and then don’t pay out is a thief at best and a murderer at worst.

Health insurance needs to die as an industry. The CEOs are to blame for allowing this crime to continue.

Luigi speaks for many of us.

Too bad the source here is Nazi Broadcasting Company and not credible.

OldBaldy1701E

(7,625 posts)
6. You want it to go away?
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 08:10 AM
Jan 2025

Remove the mandatory laws about it. The fact that we have to have it is what keeps it going. You remove the fact that the law requires it and their massive profits would start to drop like a stone. That would remove a lot of their power and influence.

That is assuming lawmakers don't get railroaded into making it illegal to try anything that might upset the vaunted insurance business. Which I would not put past any of them.

Voltaire2

(15,366 posts)
9. Wtf?
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 09:24 AM
Jan 2025

This idiotic talking point is from the original ACA rollout that included a very small fee for people who opted out of coverage. The ‘mandate’ was never compulsory, and the rightwing outrage was entirely manufactured.

You go right ahead and not have any health insurance. Good luck!

OldBaldy1701E

(7,625 posts)
30. I don't have health insurance.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 07:45 PM
Jan 2025

I have a joke that claims to be health insurance. And, even that will be gone soon enough due to inability to pay. Hell, we may be homeless in a few months the way things are going. There is no help out there. I have looked.

Anyway, I was responding to the person who mentioned that they wanted to know how to make it 'go away'. I offered a suggestion. If you do not approve of it, whatever. However, I was referring to all insurance. Like the kind you have to have to get a drivers license. Or the kind you have to have to run a business. Or the kind you have to have to build a house. There are plenty of instances where insurance is required by law. Since that is the case, one will never be able to get rid of it without getting rid of the 'safety net' that mandatory compulsion affords.

I hope that helps.

AllyCat

(17,774 posts)
36. Mine makes a greater impression.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 09:40 PM
Jan 2025

I also disagreed with the mandate to buy a private product. But making it go away means those of us who pay have to pay for everyone who doesn’t.

Universal health care is the way, but eating the rich will solve our looming hunger issues.

Joinfortmill

(17,752 posts)
3. The greed is out of control.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 07:56 AM
Jan 2025

There's going to be a seismic change in the U. S. A. It's already begun with the mass exodus from MSM to independent outlets. It's gonna be a rough ride until we get there, but we will get there. RESIST.

bmichaelh

(769 posts)
4. Medical Necessary
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 07:57 AM
Jan 2025

Insurers abuse the system by denying coverage by saying its not medically necessary.

lastlib

(25,683 posts)
5. Bean counters practicing medicine...... Eff 'em with a cactus.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 08:09 AM
Jan 2025

I have had a SEEETHING hatred of for-profit medical insurance ever since 1987, when they decided that my sister's life wasn't "medically necessary," and cost them too much profit.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Make that cactus a saguaro!

Orrex

(64,981 posts)
8. The obvious answer is to rip the limbs off of a few executives
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 09:10 AM
Jan 2025

Two per executive should be a good start.

Magoo48

(6,186 posts)
11. Universal healthcare for all. Eliminate health insurance permanently. Internal and external review of program mechanics.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 09:48 AM
Jan 2025

Bengus81

(8,661 posts)
14. Yep sadly...as they laugh and clink their drink glasses together in a toast
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 10:17 AM
Jan 2025

of how many BILLIONS of $$$$ they saved the Corporation on now denying limbs. Sick,sick FUCKS........

milestogo

(20,207 posts)
15. Years ago I had a friend whose daughter was born without an arm.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 10:37 AM
Jan 2025

The insurance company didn't want to pay for a prosthetic arm because- she didn't lose an arm, she never had one to begin with. Not their problem.

Ilsa

(62,692 posts)
28. So, they wouldn't even consider the child's
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 07:22 PM
Jan 2025

emotional and social development? How corrupt, coldhearted, vicious. Fuck them.

milestogo

(20,207 posts)
31. Add to that - because its a growing child
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 07:53 PM
Jan 2025

she's going to need one prosthetic arm after another. So the need is never going to end. I guess its the ultimate pre-existing condition.

sakabatou

(44,516 posts)
17. Then the people who made this new policy should have a limb removed.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 12:52 PM
Jan 2025

Maybe then they'll see that they're needed.

generalbetrayus

(825 posts)
20. If he hasn't already done so, Michael Adams needs to reach out to Colorado's Second Congressional District
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 01:18 PM
Jan 2025

representative Democrat Joe Neguse, who lives in Lafayette. I'm pretty sure he will get a sympathetic hearing.

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,077 posts)
35. My son lost a leg at 17
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 08:28 PM
Jan 2025

Rampaging Strep infection that took six surgeries in seven days before they finally took the whole thing to get ahead of it.

Thanks to the Shriners, we then spent six weeks in their Tampa hospital (a parent is allowed to stay in a motel-type room for free!) getting rehab and fit for a prosthetic. They eventually made a second leg and provided a cool wheelchair because they knew once he turned 18, we’d be fucked—and we were.

He outgrew his prosthesis in his mid 20s and it wasn’t until he was over 40 that he met someone at work who put him in touch with a clinic that did a few freebies. He now has a new, improved leg (nothing terribly fancy, but a better knee than his first ones) at no cost. All these years, he’s tried to apply for help from SSI, etc. and no one would help him. He was able to get around, feed himself, and go to school, so would never qualify for aid. It took a random encounter to get free help.

It’s disgusting. The so-called healthcare industry serves no real purpose but to skim money off people for providing as few services as possible in order to reward stockholders.

Just another reason these arseholes should fear the coming Luigi imitators. It’s beyond time for healthcare for ALL.

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