Trump says he will delay TikTok ban, suggests a joint venture with US ownership

[highplainsdem]

Source: TechCrunch

TikTok went dark for users in the US on Saturday night, but it may not be gone for long.

President-elect Donald Trump posted on Truth Social Sunday morning that he will issue an executive order Monday that will “extend the period of time before the law’s prohibitions take effect, so that we can make a deal to protect our national security.”

Even before TikTok went down, Trump had said he would “most likely” give the company a 90-day extension.

In his post Sunday, Trump also presented his “initial thought” on what a deal might look like, describing it as “a joint venture between the current owners and/or new owners whereby the U.S. gets a 50% ownership.”

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Read more: https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/19/trump-says-he-will-delay-tiktok-ban-suggests-a-joint-venture-with-us-ownership/

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Tbh, I'm not sure if Trump is suggesting that the US government own half of TikTok, but some people including Judd Legum think he is: https://bsky.app/profile/juddlegum.bsky.social/post/3lg4e77pgjc2i

Judd Legum
‪@juddlegum.bsky.social‬
Trump's proposal is to save TikTok is to give the federal government, run by him, direct control over TikTok. What could go wrong?

Trump's Truth Social post:

[dweller]

1. Wonder what

SCROTUS will have to say about that …

🤔


✌🏻

[PortTack]

8. The law included a 90 day extension...so he is going to write and EO giving them that time

PS…it won’t be musk, he doesn’t have that kind of money or investors he can turn to after his twitter debacle.

[LeftInTX]

24. A CEO named McCourt and his partner from Shark Tank (. Kevin O'Leary are interested.

Trump cronies.

[C_U_L8R]

2. "Nice Tik Tok you got there"

"It'd be a shame if something unfortunate should befall it, if you know what I'm saying"

[underpants]

3. That's been the goal all along.

As I read here the other day, the powers that be (who dine with Trump) want both the user info and access to the Tik Tok algorithm to direct WHAT users see.

We’ve been a short attention span culture for a while but it’s even shorter now. Something like 60% of people never read beyond the headline. If you control the headlines or what headlines specific groups/people see, you control what and how they see/think.

It’s not the mandatory viewing of a controlled propaganda as many writers have envisioned over the years, it’s unavoidable viewing.

[OrlandoDem2]

4. Except a joint venture isn't in the law. A law would have to be written.

Trump looks weak here. Weak on TikTok and weak on China!

[gab13by13]

5. Musk/Putin will just buy it.

[highplainsdem]

6. Not sure Trump wants Musk to have as much power as ownership of both TikTok and X would give him.

[womanofthehills]

21. It costs more money than even Musk has

Musk says although he's against the ban, it sure is sending more people over to X.

Kids are saying that many Congress people are invested in Meta - in fact they list all the Congress members invested in Meta and the kids say - Congress will make money if TicToc is banned and people go to Meta.

[Whyisthisstillclose]

7. The youth vote is not aware of or concerned

about China or the U.S. Oligarchy and the evil to come. They will vote for the candidates that saved their precious TikTok.

[PortTack]

9. Do you use TikTok? if you did you would know that's not true.

[Whyisthisstillclose]

10. Of course I use TikTok as I used to use Twitter

We were told by the intelligence experts it was a security risk for the country. That should end TikTok in the U S. period. Move on. Certainly there are thoughtful, patriotic Americans with great ideas on TikTok, just as there still are on X. But the app should be gone. And the lack of turnout from the youth vote may be at least partially due to the TikTok ban. I over spoke, but it did cost us votes.

[PortTack]

12. The ban was tied to the bill congress passed for funding aid to Ukraine. President Biden really had no choice

It has nothing to do with Ntl security any more than twitter or fb platforms do.

The turn out problem…just like ‘16. We live in a racist bigoted sexist country that still doesn’t want a woman as president, let alone a WOC..

[Scrivener7]

13. And the ban was originally proposed by the felon.

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19919414

[Whyisthisstillclose]

14. This is a great conversation between DU members

that stay up on political news and are very analytical on what they read. The average American knows very little to nothing about the complicated facts of our government. All they know is that Biden is president and think he is responsible for anything they don't like. Very similar to the Afghanistan withdrawal.... Thank you guys for the discussion! You rock!

[PortTack]

16. Thx ..goes to show their can be discourse without being confrontational

[Whyisthisstillclose]

17. All too rare today. Seems like everyone will pick

the nearest hill to flight to the death over. Everyone is on edge. I hope we all live through this.

[PortTack]

20. Indeed...hopefully some of that edge comes off after tomorrow.

[Whyisthisstillclose]

23. Hope springs eternal! But disappointment is

usually not far behind! LOL

[subterranean]

11. How hard would it be to create a U.S. version of TikTok?

Is that so impossible? China has their own domestic version (TikTok is not available there). Why can't someone just create an alternative to TikTok here?

[PortTack]

18. The algorithm is light years ahead of anything here. Meta who tried to acquire TikTok found out just how

Valuable that algorithm was and how much it would cost to recreate it, so dropped his bid. Instead he lobbied congress to ban it. If they or any of 47’s billionaires buy it, they will ruin it. And it will die, just like twitter.

There are several ppl working to create an alternative to TikTok- Trend, Neptune, clapper and pixelfed are giving it an honest shot, but it takes months if not years to create the algorithm and then the following. Something will come along, but it won’t be overnight.

[subterranean]

22. Thank you for the explanation. NT

[manicdem]

15. Kevin O'Leary made a $20 billion offer for tik tok

Probably way underpriced, but they may take it if it's $20 billion or nothing.

[PortTack]

19. Yes, he did. That sale price does not include the algorithm which is what makes TikTok work.

[LeftInTX]

25. Interesting. Didn't know that.

I haven't spent enough time on TikTok to experience their algorithm.

Twitter doesn't have one. It just "all Musk, all the time"


FB's is lame. And I think that's a good thing. FB's is not stuff that "grabs" at me. It's more stuff about Texas folklore and some Armenian stuff. Sometimes it's from a Democratic candidate that I don't follow and likely don't want to follow because it would clutter up my feed. (Running for a local position in another state etc)

I just went back to Twitter and now their algorithm is no longer "all Musk, all the time"....
This is soooo weird. This happened after Germany subpoenaed Musk for algorithm documents.
I vowed three weeks ago, I would never look at the algorithm again and it's back to the way it used to be....
Very, very weird....

[LearnedHand]

27. You're joking right?

Twitter is all about the algorithm. It's exactly what Eloon twiddles to push his own teeets and those of other white supremacists.

[LeftInTX]

29. It isn't an algorithm if it's only "one thing".

A list of Musk's curated tweets is not an algorithm, it's a list!
A teenager can create a list!

[LearnedHand]

31. About Musk's latest algorithm tweak

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/global-trends/elon-musk-algorithm-tweak-x-twitter-elon-musks-big-announcement-on-algorithm-tweaks-customisable-feeds-for-x-tech-mogul-says-too-much-negativity-/articleshow/116945403.cms

Edit: It's not a "list." It's an algorithm that pushes content into everyone's feed. You do understand algorithms, right?

[LeftInTX]

33. I tried responding earlier but DU keeps being weird

Last edited Mon Jan 20, 2025, 01:20 AM - Edit history (4)

Yes, I do:



Input "For You" = list of links such curated from this and other accounts such as Infowars, Trump Tweets, MAGA etc "https://x.com/elonmusk?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor"

The only decision in the "algorithm" is "For You" and that's it. Everyone sees the same thing. Just like a webpage. List of links.

Even Musk joked about it himself.

The Economic Times is most recent and when I logged onto twitter this evening, after reading the ET article it appears they now have an algorithm, although very biased. On Jan 9th, I logged on and all it was Musk, Musk, InfoWars, Trumps Tweets. That was not an algorithm. That was a list of links. He must have put the algorithm back in because of pressure from the EU.






From Jan 17th EU asks X for internal documents about algorithms as it steps up investigation
https://archive.ph/QCWch#selection-1457.0-1461.436

From Jan 9th
EU Commission urged to act over Elon Musk’s ‘interference’ in elections
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/08/eu-commission-urged-to-act-elon-musk-interference-elections

[womanofthehills]

32. Only 10% of TicTok is in America- 90% in the rest of the world

Why would they sell? Besides - 60% of TicTok is owned by monster companies like Blackrock.

[LearnedHand]

26. And there it is

I'm guessing "joint US owner" is code for Eloon?

[tulipsandroses]

28. So he admits that Tik Tok is dangerous, but wants people to have it to see his inauguration? How patriotic

And what does 50% US ownership mean?
US Govt or owned by US citizens/companies?

[durablend]

30. Another division of "Leon Inc." me thinks

[Mawspam2]

34. Trump will use his newly mint $TRUMP coin...

...to purchase TikTok then sell that to the US Treasury.

Tick tock felons. But will this reduce the price of eggs?