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demmiblue

(38,165 posts)
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 10:39 AM Friday

Utah Becomes First State to Ban Fluoride in Public Water

Source: NYT

Medical experts warn the move could have consequences for oral health, especially among children.

Utah has become the first U.S. state to outlaw the addition of fluoride to public drinking water.

The law, which was signed by Gov. Spencer Cox on March 27 and will go into effect on May 7, comes amid renewed scrutiny of fluoride, a mineral that has been widely added to U.S. drinking water since 1945 to prevent cavities. Although controversy over the safety of water fluoridation first arose in the 1940s, concerns have intensified in recent years, driven in part by new research on fluoridation and by growing resistance to public health interventions since the pandemic.

In November, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., now the federal health secretary, said that the Trump administration would “advise all U.S. water systems to remove fluoride from public water” because of potential health risks. Anti-fluoridation bills have also been introduced in North Dakota, Tennessee and Montana.

Much of the concern centers on the possible cognitive effects in children. In one recent review of studies, researchers concluded that high levels of prenatal or childhood fluoride exposure were linked with lower I.Q. s in childhood. But the fluoride levels associated with cognitive problems were more than twice as high as the levels people are generally exposed to through community water fluoridation, said Dr. Scott Tomar, a public health dentist and oral epidemiologist at the University of Illinois Chicago.


Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/28/well/utah-fluoride-ban.html

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Utah Becomes First State to Ban Fluoride in Public Water (Original Post) demmiblue Friday OP
We're living in a remake of Dr. Strangelove. Ocelot II Friday #1
Dentists will be making bank... SheltieLover Friday #2
That was my first thought. The surgeon general of Florida wants to eliminate it in our water Deuxcents Friday #6
Oh, no doubt FL wants to eliminate it. SheltieLover Friday #13
Do you think a movie is scientific proof? delisen Friday #20
This message was self-deleted by its author SheltieLover Friday #3
So throwing the baby out with the bath water instead of monitoring fluoride level and having better controls. marble falls Friday #4
A quiet cheer goes up from Utah dentists and dental supply houses? dutch777 Friday #5
Enjoy your future no_hypocrisy Friday #7
Russian gaslighting often emphasizes anti-intellectualism and distrust of medicine. AmericaUnderSiege Friday #8
My hometown has naturally fluoridated water. Jokerman Friday #9
The Louisiana of the West. Now with dentures. NotHardly Friday #10
Have fun with all those cavities, dickholes! Aristus Friday #11
As a chemist, I can tell you that's a good move. patphil Friday #12
Thanks. twodogsbarking Friday #14
My husband and his family grew up with spring water, no fluoride, obviously. His entire family has had dental problems * Oopsie Daisy Friday #15
Remember Romney ? Conserva'- ban "this and that is decoy to basically white-collar and street connections " crimes.. swampthingdc Friday #16
It's banned where I am too. Dentists EllieBC Friday #17
So, DON'T believe in 80 years of scientific trial results, but DO believe in magic underwear. LudwigPastorius Friday #18
Should make Bobby Brainworm happy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Friday #19
This is John Birch Society madness. valleyrogue Friday #21

Deuxcents

(21,553 posts)
6. That was my first thought. The surgeon general of Florida wants to eliminate it in our water
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 10:47 AM
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And a few counties and cities have. Ignorance is expensive

delisen

(6,856 posts)
20. Do you think a movie is scientific proof?
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 08:23 PM
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I avoid ingesting fluoride due to science on bone health and thyroid disorders. Others are concerned about scientific reviews and studies on children/intelligence.

I think this is a very emotional issue and I have been asking people to read the current science rather than lean into the old movie. It was great fun in the 1960s and the John Birch Society members deserved ridicule on many grounds. However there are millions of children in the US today with dental caries despite living in areas with water fluoridation.



Response to demmiblue (Original post)

marble falls

(64,252 posts)
4. So throwing the baby out with the bath water instead of monitoring fluoride level and having better controls.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 10:44 AM
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dutch777

(4,146 posts)
5. A quiet cheer goes up from Utah dentists and dental supply houses?
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 10:45 AM
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It is interesting though, my granddaughter lives in CA and is almost 3. Her pediatrician put her on fluoride supplements as their house has a water filtration system. Those systems as a side effect of their action, remove fluoride along with harmful chemicals and impurities and the good docs figured this out and have a counter move.

no_hypocrisy

(50,899 posts)
7. Enjoy your future
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 10:47 AM
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fillings, crowns, bridges, dentures and implants.

Not forgetting heart disease and gum disease.

 

AmericaUnderSiege

(777 posts)
8. Russian gaslighting often emphasizes anti-intellectualism and distrust of medicine.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 10:50 AM
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They cultivate a physical disgust for and fear against medical science.

Jokerman

(3,541 posts)
9. My hometown has naturally fluoridated water.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 10:52 AM
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It comes that way from an underground aquifer. Are they going to require them to filter it out?

(Not in Utah but stupid ideas like this tend to spread like wildfire)

patphil

(7,583 posts)
12. As a chemist, I can tell you that's a good move.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 10:59 AM
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Fluoride may be good for your teeth, but it's bad for the rest of your body. It interferes with proper function of the Thyroid gland, and can result in a weakened immune system.
Although some fluoride is needed in the body, putting in the drinking water can easily result in taking in too much of it, and creating a toxic effect.
I suggest using a fluoride toothpaste, and/or mouth wash instead.
I worked in the Pharmaceutical Industry for about 36 years, and knew several people in research who were well aware of the problems with putting it in your drinking water.
If your drinking water has fluoride, I suggest a filter to remove it from water for drinking and cooking.
Here is an article that describes the problems with fluoride in the water supply:

https://thyroidpharmacist.com/articles/fluoride-and-your-thyroid/

Note: Robert Kennedy Jr. is an idiot. I don't support his positions on medicine in general; they're based on ignorance, and are often dangerous.

Oopsie Daisy

(5,554 posts)
15. My husband and his family grew up with spring water, no fluoride, obviously. His entire family has had dental problems *
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 12:14 PM
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* and it's the reason he wears dentures today. I've seen photos of him as a child (along with his brothers and sisters) and they all had missing or rotted or malformed teeth. His oldest brother was wearing a full set of dentures at age 17.

This anti-fluoride movement is as idiotic as the anti-vax movement.

swampthingdc

(6 posts)
16. Remember Romney ? Conserva'- ban "this and that is decoy to basically white-collar and street connections " crimes..
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 01:13 PM
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what> ?

I mean science / culture easy targets * easy decoys to ' bigger fish so to say . ' banks , banking.. etc.

not many have heard of when TD bank was scammed wow.. not 'that is kinda the wh" nah mean?

~
sheesh!? ~ https://pixelfed.social/p/artsandev/811282568510475717

EllieBC

(3,435 posts)
17. It's banned where I am too. Dentists
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 02:14 PM
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make a killing here. Fucking bunch of goddamned hippies got it banned in Vancouver. In the smaller communities points both and in the interior, it’s not banned.

LudwigPastorius

(12,010 posts)
18. So, DON'T believe in 80 years of scientific trial results, but DO believe in magic underwear.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 02:27 PM
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Alrighty.

valleyrogue

(1,930 posts)
21. This is John Birch Society madness.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 11:19 PM
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I feel like I am in a time warp with this utter crap, this utter quackery.

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