GOP lawmakers in 10 states introduce bills to treat abortion as homicide

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: The Hill

03/28/25 6:00 AM ET


A growing number of Republican state lawmakers are introducing legislation that would treat abortion as murder in a push to give legal rights to fetuses.

Since the beginning of this year, Republican lawmakers have introduced bills in at least 10 states, including Georgia, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Texas, Oklahoma, Indiana, Iowa, Idaho and North Dakota, that aim to charge pregnant women with homicide if they seek out or receive an abortion.

While several of these bills have already failed to pass and the others are likely to meet the same fate, the influx of legislation shows more Republicans seeking to take a new step in restricting abortion rights: legally recognizing fetal personhood. “That is, of course, something that the movement had always wanted, but it hadn’t really been achievable in the same way that it is now with Roe v. Wade gone,” said Mary Ziegler, law professor at the University of California, Davis.

In addition to abortion, some of the legislation calls for amending state law to classify the destruction of zygotes, embryos or fetuses as homicide. All of the states where they have been introduced, with the exception of North Dakota, allow the death penalty for homicide cases.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5217297-republican-state-lawmakers-abortion-homicide-bills/

[AmericaUnderSiege]

1. But they still don't want to give mothers time off or pay to feed children.

Republicans cannot be redeemed.

[BumRushDaShow]

3. Let alone even think of "childcare"

because "the 'little woman' should be home taking care of the children".

I had noticed the increasing use of a new term - "Tradwife" - that I am guessing is a modern version of the term "housewife".

[AmericaUnderSiege]

5. They just enjoy wallowing in the symbols of what they hate and want to destroy.

Families are a threat to the GOP cult, now doubly because the Kremlin is their master.

[Lonestarblue]

8. I think of a tradwife as a Stepford wife--an automaton who has no greater purpose than serving and pleasing her husband.

Afghanistan’s women are tradwives with no rights of their own and no freedom. That’s what the Christian Republican wants for all US women.

[AmericaUnderSiege]

11. They see women as a means of production. Capital, in other words.

And you know how these psychos get about capital.

We need to be very clear that women's right to choose is not a matter of statute or regulation, but fundamental to the Constitution and human rights. Because you cannot enforce an abortion ban without literally enslaving a pregnant woman, asserting that her body is involuntarily government property.

[BumRushDaShow]

13. That was my thought as well

Suitably coiffed and dressed, happy to be in the kitchen cooking meals for her owner... errr... husband, and must get on her back, legs up on command.

[Hekate]

15. Go back 150+ years for a "tradwife"

…when a man’s word was law to his wife, where domestic violence was a private matter, where the products of a woman’s labor (yes, women worked) belonged to her husband. When, as our feminist foremothers like Elizabeth Cady Stanton accurately noted, women had fewer rights than children, imbeciles, and convicted prisoners.

By comparison, “housewife” implies a more benign state of being, for all its manifest flaws. In the ordinary course of life women expected to have a say in the marriage and the raising of the kids. Contraceptives certainly existed.

Men who use the term “tradwife” always sound like wifebeaters to me. Or incels who want to be wifebeaters. There’s something about the term and the “men” who use it that just raises my hackles and sets off alarm bells. They want slavery, not housewifery.

[BumRushDaShow]

17. You don't even have to go back that far

Women couldn't even get credit in their own names (I know my widowed mother ran into that issue after my dad died in the mid-70s).

But my mom was a big fan of Gloria Steinem and we had Ms. magazine in the house not long after it first started being published. She even attended one of Steinem's appearances here in Philly in the '70s.

And I agree - when I started seeing the term, all I could think of was a modern version of toxic masculinity reasserting itself - alot of what this past election was about. I still go back to that "other message" that was being shown in the "Barbie" movie from 2023 (before this last election0. It clearly depicted the juvenile alpha male reasserting his dominance and as we now know, he has successfully done so after this election -

[Hekate]

18. I know. Some of what I say is in reaction to the many people who said overturning Roe ...

…”sent us back 50 years.”

However, based on the behavior of the state legislatures that want to criminalize contraceptives, I’d go back further.

Based on the intense propaganda to redefine every medical necessity “down there” (such language) as an abortion, I would go further back in time. Every baby, stillbirth, and miscarriage my mother had was in the Baby Boom years, and I know that a D&C was a common treatment for a miscarriage back in those days, and not considered an illegal abortion.

Based on Texas’ bounty hunter laws for women trying to travel out of state for legal medical treatment — I look back to the Runaway Slave Acts.

Based on the desire of certain legislatures to criminalize the mailing of contraceptives and written info into their states, ditto Mifepristone, I look back to the Comstock Act — the abomination that got Margaret Sanger sent to prison.

Only 50 years back in time? Oh dear no.

From 2022

[SADAR]

16. "Traditional" wife NT

[BumRushDaShow]

22. IOW, a "modern" version of the "housewife" or "homemaker"

or "stay-at-home" wife/mother (not to be confused with a "remote-working" one).



Raygun made sure to force everyone back to work by initiating a huge wage gap, starting with thwarting minimum wage increases.

[bluestarone]

2. After 1 day old

WE DON"T CARE about your child!!!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

4. I wonder just how many of those lawmakers have ever been pregnant?

Or ever could be pregnant?

You know what? I don't have a prostate, so I don't get all the fuss about when one goes bad, gets cancerous, whatever. I will NEVER have to worry about that, so why should anyone else? Why should any kind of medical research on that stuff ever be funded?

Maybe some of those women ("mothers&quot should simply drop the newborn off at their lawmaker's office. That would surely demonstrate that having a baby is no big deal, right? How about passing on the hospital bill for the birth to the lawmaker?

[sinkingfeeling]

6. More of that glorious 'Freedom' MAGA is always shouting about.

[GoodRaisin]

7. With Republicans, there is never any good news.

They devote their time to making people’s lives a living hell while stuffing their own pockets.

Nice guys.

[jls4561]

9. The simple solution to reducing unwanted abortions is to make castration mandatory.

Let’s start with Abbott, Paxton and Patrick and see how that works out.

[MissKat]

10. All that will happen

Is...women will stop getting pregnant...no matter what they have to do

[Zambero]

12. And pregnant women who will suffer and die without emergency medical intervention?

If they are to be sacrificed in order to to "save" a dead and decomposing fetus while waiting days or weeks for it to be stillborn, would the responsible legislators and/or governor bear culpability for facilitating a preventable outcome? Furthermore, medical professionals should not have to risk prosecution in order to make informed treatment recommendations that serve to protect the health and well-being of their pateients.

[question everything]

14. We need a 21st Century Underground Railroad to help pregnant women get abortions

in other states

[Hekate]

20. Two places to inquire about donations to existing programs: Planned Parenthood and the Brigid Alliance

Planned Parenthood clinics on the borders of states where abortion is criminalized are slammed with people in need. Inquire if you can target donations for travel support.

The Brigid Alliance is specifically for travel expenses.
https://brigidalliance.org/

[question everything]

21. Thank you. I will

[sakabatou]

19. Are there any cutouts in the bill at all?

[electric_blue68]

23. Shades of Gilead. 😬 Someday All Women will be Treated as First-Class Citizens! Not yet.

Decades back, at some point for a time; my thinking was respecting cultural norms of any country's, or groups society.

Then I thought, oh, hell, no...women & girls should not be treated like 2nd, or 3rd class citizens, broodmares, etc, ever!
We are people first!

We have as much talent, effort, inventiveness, serious thinking etc as any man in general, along with the choice to create, birth, and raise children (which the father should be a part of in general).
Reproductive ability should not preclude these other aspects!

Arrrgggggg!