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Mon Mar 3, 2025, 04:10 PM Mar 3

Why Aren't We in the Streets? - Susan Glasser The New Yorker

Last Friday night, minutes after President Donald Trump announced the firing of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and a purge of the military’s top lawyers, I received an e-mail from my cousin in Los Angeles. “Why are we not in the streets?” she wrote. “The Germans even marched against Musk. The French would have barricaded every government building.” All week long I’ve been thinking of that message, composed in the heat of the moment after an unprecedented event that already seems forgotten amid all the subsequent unprecedented events.

In the days since then, Trump warned agency heads to prepare for “large-scale” layoffs by mid-March, fired thousands of additional government employees, and ordered Elon Musk, deputized as his chief job-slasher, to “GET MORE AGGRESSIVE.” He’s axed bird-flu inspectors in the midst of a bird-flu outbreak and got rid of thousands of Internal Revenue Service personnel at the height of tax season. On Monday, the third anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Trump ordered the U.S. to stand not with Ukraine but instead with Russia, in a U.N. vote that put America on the side of dictatorships and against most of our democratic allies—a profound shift in American foreign policy. On Tuesday, Trump’s White House abolished a century-old tradition by decreeing that only news organizations handpicked by the President’s staff would be allowed in the press pool. On Wednesday, at the first Cabinet meeting of his second term, Trump allowed Musk to hold forth before any Senate-confirmed members of the actual Cabinet. (“Is anybody unhappy with Elon?” he asked. “If you are, we’ll throw him out of here.”) On Thursday, Trump vowed to impose stringent twenty-five-per-cent tariffs on Canada and Mexico next week, as well as additional levies on Chinese goods—which, if he follows through, are likely to result in higher prices for American consumers already concerned about inflation.


And yet, making my way around Washington this week, the city showed no signs of the Trumpian tumult. Disruption, apparently, is just our new normal. There were no major protests in the quiescent capital, unless one counts the lawsuits against Musk’s “Department of Government Efficiency” that have been piling up in federal court, or the small crowd that gathered on Thursday outside of U.S.A.I.D.’s now shuttered headquarters with hand-lettered thank-you signs for the thousands of workers who were given fifteen minutes to clean out their desks. These acts were a far cry from the popular uprisings that presumably would have convulsed Paris or any other European city if the President of the republic suddenly and unilaterally reoriented the nation’s geopolitical strategy, turned on its major trading partners, and allowed the world’s richest man to cut hundreds of thousands of federal workers and billions of dollars in government services. Instead, the opposition was receiving this counsel from James Carville in the Times: “Roll over and play dead.” (His actual words.)

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Mindful of this argument, I took a scroll through the social-media feed of the House’s Democratic leader, Hakeem Jeffries, which contained not a single mention in recent days of either Musk or Trump, and for the most part simply restated talking points against the proposed Republican budget resolution that passed this week in a 217-215 vote. (Over in the Senate, Minority Leader Chuck Schumer at least had a lot more to say on X about Trump and the “billionaires’ club” and the “chaos” across the land.) Civil society, too, has been remarkably muted in its response. After Trump’s White House seized control of the press pool, there was no boycott or organized resistance and not much more than expressions of Susan Collins-esque deep concern; rival journalists quickly accepted the press pool access that was stripped from their politically noncompliant colleagues.

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But my fear is a different one. In just five weeks in office, Trump has asserted sweeping authorities and consolidated control over the executive branch by appointing what is undoubtedly the most extreme Cabinet in American history. What we don’t know yet is exactly how far he plans to go, now that so little apparently stands in his way. Will he follow through on his past threats to investigate and imprison political enemies? Or to use the American military to crack down on political dissent at home, given that he’s fired top generals and wants to replace them with others willing to profess loyalty to him personally? I don’t know, but I do know this: the man who calls himself our King is more than delighted for his enemies to wallow offstage in their own weakness. Nature, and Trump, abhor a vacuum.

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Why Aren't We in the Streets? - Susan Glasser The New Yorker (Original Post) question everything Mar 3 OP
The people are ultimately responsible for this disaster, those who voted for Trump. J_William_Ryan Mar 3 #1
It is sad and pathetic, roll over and play dead. Passages Mar 3 #2
If we follow Carville's stupid advice, we deserve what we get. Paladin Mar 3 #3
After what happened last summer with Biden, valleyrogue Mar 3 #5
Public pressure, if organized well, can be very effective. lees1975 Mar 3 #4
Half the country has no problem creon Mar 3 #6
I agree, Big Blue Marble Mar 3 #7
And when it hits them, they will blame Biden question everything Mar 3 #8
isolated creon Mar 4 #9

J_William_Ryan

(2,636 posts)
1. The people are ultimately responsible for this disaster, those who voted for Trump.
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 04:27 PM
Mar 3

And those who didn’t vote at all.

Most realize that demonstrations won’t change anything; that Trump won’t be driven from office by popular outrage or by a popular uprising.

Congressional Republicans are ignoring the town hall backlash, lying about ‘Democratic plants’ being responsible.

Being critical of Democratic leadership and elected Democrats is wrongheaded and ill-conceived – removed from the levers of power there’s little they can do save speak out in opposition to Trump, opposition that will also be ignored by Trump and Congressional Republicans.

Neither Trump nor Musk are the true villain in this debacle – it’s the majority who voted for Trump; the people deserve to suffer the consequences of the bad government they sought.

Passages

(2,567 posts)
2. It is sad and pathetic, roll over and play dead.
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 04:34 PM
Mar 3

Yeah, they'll come crawling back to you....that is a great gamble.

Paladin

(30,087 posts)
3. If we follow Carville's stupid advice, we deserve what we get.
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 05:46 PM
Mar 3

Those who oppose trump have an overwhelming right to be angry and outraged by what he's doing to this nation. And that anger and outrage deserve to be acted upon.

valleyrogue

(1,975 posts)
5. After what happened last summer with Biden,
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 07:35 PM
Mar 3

NOBODY should be listening to James Carville, much less taking any of his advice.

lees1975

(6,412 posts)
4. Public pressure, if organized well, can be very effective.
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 06:03 PM
Mar 3

But here's the real question. Democrats passed up chances to put a stop to this. We had four years. There should have been a calendar of what the administration planned to do to put a stop to this nonsense developed and implemented on January 21, 2021. But our politicians, irresolute, fearing that they might be seen as "political," and in some cases acting like they just really didn't want to get involved in a conflict, dragged their feet, made excuses and let it go. It's going to be difficult to get people riled up, protesting and in the streets when they didn't look like they cared much, and now they're going off in their own direction, Sanders and AOC getting out there, while others criticise them for getting out there. Doing a lot of talking, taking advantage of opportunities to raise money but not really making much of an obvious effort to organize for anything. We've got three congressional seats up for grabs on April 1, but who in Congress, or at the DNC, is heading up the effort to help them get elected? Or is everyone too interested in protecting their own turf to make an effort at this?

creon

(1,478 posts)
6. Half the country has no problem
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 09:55 PM
Mar 3

has no problem.
yet.

It will have to get worse. Much worse.

I do think that there will violnce and blood shed.
Then, it will get "very intersting".

Big Blue Marble

(5,595 posts)
7. I agree,
Mon Mar 3, 2025, 10:36 PM
Mar 3

The Maga's will have to feel the pain of the country falling apart at the seams. Only when it hits them,
will there be serious pushback. I know two Maga's and they are quite fine with the unraveling at this
point. Both rich and smug, never believing it could touch them in any negative way. One is on SS and
is not concerned. Whatever disaster I mention, they just say it is all worth it.

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