The Day America Abandons NATO
Olivia of Troye
If President Donald Trump follows through on his repeated threats to withdraw the United States from NATO, it will be one of the most consequential and dangerous decisions in modern American history. This isn't just a foreign policy debate for diplomats and military strategists—it will impact the lives of every single American. From national security to economic stability, the fallout will ripple across the country in ways most people have not yet fully grasped.
Trump floated this idea during his first term, and those of us in national security took it as a grave threat. At the time, cooler heads prevailed. But now, with an administration that justifies every reckless move he makes, the danger is more real than ever. The past few days have been a case study in this dangerous trajectory—culminating in a disturbing Oval Office exchange between President Trump, Vice President JD Vance, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Watching that moment unfold, it became clear: we must prepare for the worst. The unraveling of NATO is no longer just a possibility—it's likely coming.
NATO: A Lifeline for America, Not a Burden
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was established in 1949 as a collective defense pact between the U.S. and its European allies to counter the Soviet Union. The core of NATO is Article 5, which states that an attack on one member is an attack on all. This has only been invoked once—after 9/11 when our allies came to defend us. In our darkest hour, NATO stood by America. That alliance kept us safe. A poignant reminder of that moment resides in the 9/11 Memorial & Museum.
For decades, NATO has deterred Russian aggression, upheld a balance of power, and allowed the U.S. to project strength globally without engaging in direct wars on our own soil. However, under Trump, that stability is unraveling. The foundation of NATO itself is at risk. For most Americans, NATO might seem like an abstract foreign alliance. But if Trump pulls out, here's how it will hit home:
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FakeNoose
(37,119 posts)Rather than make Chump "quit" NATO and thus incur the wrath of a LOT of patriotic and military-serving conservatives ... I think he's on a path to get us kicked out of NATO.
The behavior last week against President Zelenskyy plus countless other announcements, tweets, angry press conferences, etc. - that's stuff is going out in all the newspapers and TV media across the world. Chump isn't acting in a vacuum, he's deliberately pissing EVERYONE off, including our allies. Well they were out allies, but now they're rethinking the whole situation.
If Chump gets us kicked out of NATO, what recourse do loyal Americans have?
Putin has this figured out, and I think that's his plan.
Imanoldwetdog
(2 posts)This article examines a radical restructuring of the United States government unfolding in real time. Former President Donald Trump, following a tumultuous first term (succeeded by an administration under President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris), has staged a dramatic comeback. Now in office with Vice President J.D. Vance, Trump enacts controversial policies - including mass deportations and aggressive trade tariffs - that have immediate and far-reaching consequences on American families, the economy, national security, and personal liberty. Yet behind the scenes, these policies policies and direction is directed by Elon Musk, the world's richest man, hereafter known as the Chancellor or Commander in Chief. His enormous campaign contributions to the Trump presidential campaign secured him hidden oversight, allowing him to pull the strings like a master puppeteer. Dubbed The Art of the Steal, this thought experiment details how these interwoven policies extract wealth from everyday citizens and disrupt every facet of life.
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In this unfolding political drama, former President Donald Trump - after a controversial first term marred by legal challenges - has mounted a stunning comeback following a period under the administration of President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris. Now, with Vice President J.D. Vance at his side, Trump enacts policies that radically reshape national life. Yet, when it comes to crucial decisions the administration is heavily influenced by Elon Musk, the world's richest man. Whom through his enormous financial contributions during the election campaign, secured a hidden seat at the table, effectively acting as a master puppeteer.
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This power dynamic is formalized by a bespoke oversight body known as DOGE. Under the banner of efficiency, ' a series of drastic measures is deployed: massive public sector job cuts. While the President continues his MAGA campaign by setting in motion a draconian policy of mass deportations targeting individuals who have entered the United States illegally or were born to undocumented immigrants. He also started his war on American businesses with his America First policy of steep tariffs on imports. The title The Art of the Steal is deliberately provocative. It encapsulates an orchestrated, systematic expropriation of wealth from everyday citizens that transfers resources upward to a powerful elite. Furthermore, the Chancellor's signature dark attire and unnervingly calm smirk evoke the image of Chancellor Palpatine from Star Wars, symbolizing unchecked power and calculated malevolence masquerading as reform. It is also worth noting that a synonym for DOGE is Chancellor.
This study employs a deterministic modeling approach to estimate the economic impact of the proposed policies. Data were gathered from publicly available sources, including the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and academic studies (see References). Key assumptions include: An average job loss of 50, 000 per affected household. A 4-7 contraction in GDP due to tariffs on a 21 trillion economy. Undocumented workers contribute approximately 2-3 to GDP. Sensitivity analysis was conducted to provide a range of estimates for household impacts. Qualitative assessments were also made regarding broader societal effects.
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Massive Workforce Reduction: In a bid to streamline government operations, approximately 10 million families lose one government related job per household. Branded as a fight against bureaucratic bloat, this measure inflicts immediate significant income losses and generates widespread uncertainty. It is assumed that the streamlining effect snowballs from the federal to the state level - and eventually down to county level
Aggressive Import Tariffs: Led by President Trump and Vice President Vance under the Chancellor's influence, the administration imposes a steep 25 tariff on imports from neighboring countries, China, and any nation with which the United States maintains less than ideal relations. Although touted as a means to protect domestic industries, these tariffs trigger retaliatory measures that disrupt global supply chains and sharply inflate the cost of everyday goods.
Retaliatory Trade Measures: In response, affected trade partners rapidly shift their import sources, isolating American exports and destabilizing global supply networks. This reorientation not only contracts national GDP but also sows uncertainty in international markets.
Mass Deportations: In a highly controversial move, the administration enacts mass deportations of all individuals who have entered the United States illegally or who were born to undocumented immigrants. Marketed as a means to cleanse the labor market, this policy precipitates severe labor shortages in key sectors and deepens the economic and social fallout.
Direct Economic Losses from Job Cuts and Trade Policies:
Job Losses: Losses affecting 10 million families, with an average income loss of 50, 000 per job, result in a direct annual income loss of roughly 500 billion. GDP Contraction from Tariffs: With tariffs triggering a 4 to 7 contraction on a 21 trillion economy, the annual economic loss is estimated between 840 billion and 1. 47 trillion.
Household Impact: Distributed among an estimated 100 million American households, the average annual cost per household ranges from 8, 400 to 14, 700. For our analysis, a mid-range value of approximately 11, 500 per household per year is used.
Additional Losses from Mass Deportations:
Labor Market Disruptions: The removal of an estimated 10 million undocumented workers - vital in sectors such as agriculture, construction, and hospitality - leads to significant labor shortages and reduced overall productivity. GDP Impact: Since undocumented immigrants contribute roughly 2 to 3 of GDP, their mass removal could trigger an additional 1 to 2 contraction in a 21 trillion economy, representing an annual loss of approximately 210 billion to 420 billion.
Household Impact: Spread over 100 million households, this additional burden translates to roughly 2, 100 to 4, 200 per household per year.
Aggregating the Effects Over Four Years:
Job Cuts and Trade Policies: At an annual cost of 11, 500 per household, the four-year cumulative loss is: 4 11, 500 46, 000 per household.
Additional Impact from Deportations: Adding the deportation-related cost (between 2, 100 and 4, 200 per household per year) yields: 4 (2, 100 to 4, 200) 8, 400 to 16, 800 per household.
Total Cumulative Loss: Overall, the loss per household over a four-year term ranges from: 46, 000 8, 400 54, 400 to 46, 000 16, 800 62, 800. For 100 million households, this results in a cumulative national loss of roughly 5. 44 to 6. 28 trillion over the term.
The model suggests that the proposed policies could impose an enormous economic burden on American families, with cumulative losses per household exceeding 50, 000 over a four-year term. Beyond these economic figures, the policies have cascading effects on daily life, national security, and social cohesion. The disruption of supply chains, destabilization of trade, and removal of vital workers not only drive up consumer costs but also compromise military readiness and public safety. These outcomes highlight the importance of robust policy debate and careful analysis when sweeping changes threaten core values such as family security and individual liberty.
In practical terms, these figures suggest that American families could lose between approximately 54, 400 and 62, 800 over a four-year period. This loss translates to roughly 1, 100 to 1, 300 per month per household —- a significant reduction in disposable income. Such a decrease could directly affect day-to-day living by reducing the money available for essential expenses like groceries, healthcare, education, and housing. Moreover, this chronic financial strain might lead to increased reliance on credit, diminished savings, and a general decline in the standard of living, thereby affecting overall economic stability and quality of life
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This analysis is subject to several limitations: Assumption Sensitivity: The estimates rely on assumptions regarding job loss rates, GDP contraction percentages, and the average income per job. Small variations in these assumptions could lead to significantly different outcomes. Static Modeling: The model does not account for dynamic economic responses such as policy reversals, market adjustments, or technological innovations that may mitigate some impacts. Qualitative Effects: Social, institutional, and liberty-related impacts are inherently difficult to quantify and are discussed qualitatively. Data Limitations: This analysis uses publicly available data and select academic studies. Future research with more comprehensive datasets and probabilistic modeling may refine these estimates.
Beyond the raw economic figures, these policies affect the core values of family, security, and liberty.
Availability of Goods: The 25 tariffs, compounded by retaliatory trade measures, will disrupt supply chains and lead to shortages and price hikes. Families will struggle to obtain basic food items, consumer electronics, automobiles, luxury goods, and even critical industrial components. Every shopping trip will reveal the heavy burden of these policy choices. Business Bankruptcies: Import-reliant businesses - from local mom-and-pop shops to major multinationals - will face escalating costs and cash flow crises. Many small and medium enterprises could be forced to shutter within the first year, while even larger companies may face bankruptcy, leading to further job losses and additional strain on family budgets.
Military Imports: The U.S. military depends on sophisticated imported arms and technology. Tariffs that increase costs and cause delays may compromise the procurement of critical defense equipment, thereby weakening national security. Law Enforcement and Public Safety: Economic instability and rising unemployment typically lead to higher crime rates. As law enforcement agencies contend with reduced resources and growing public discontent, the ability to maintain effective crime prevention and public safety measures will be severely undermined.
Impact on Education: With reduced household incomes, families will have less disposable money to spend on education - from early childhood programs to college tuition. Public schools may face severe budget cuts, deepening educational disparities and ultimately diminishing the nation s long-term workforce competitiveness. Erosion of Liberty and Social Cohesion: The combined effects of economic contraction, mass deportations, and trade disruptions erode not only financial stability but also personal liberty. As government power becomes increasingly centralized under the guise of efficiency, democratic institutions and civil liberties are at risk. Rising racial and ethnic tensions, coupled with the stress of economic insecurity, can fracture communities and weaken social cohesion.
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In addition to the measurable economic impacts, the behavior of the leadership further compounds societal risks. President Trump and Vice President Vance have been known to propagate untruths, stoke hate, and engage in fearmongering that targets various population groups, including marginalized communities and individuals of different sexual orientations. This divisive rhetoric not only fractures domestic unity but also undermines long-standing alliances. Trump’s aggressive stance against NATO allies and Ukraine, coupled with his increasing alignment with Russia and Vladimir Putin, contributes to international isolation.
Furthermore, Elon Musk's public persona—often characterized by a perceived emotional detachment linked to Asperger's syndrome—can result in decision-making that lacks the empathetic nuance needed for effective governance. This combination of aggressive, divisive political rhetoric and unempathetic leadership deepens societal polarization and erodes public trust in institutions. As a result, not only is internal social cohesion threatened, but America's global standing is also compromised, exacerbating the overall instability.
In this narrative, the convergence of political and financial power is personified by the alliance between President Donald Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance, and the Chancellor, Elon Musk. While Trump and Vance implement policies such as mass deportations and aggressive trade tariffs, they do so under the heavy influence of Musk - whose enormous campaign contributions secured him a hidden role in government. Musk is the unseen puppeteer, pulling the strings behind the scenes.
Elon Musk's consistent choice of dark attire and his ever-present, sinister smirk deepen the analogy to Chancellor Palpatine from Star Wars. This chilling resemblance serves as a stark reminder of the authoritarian potential inherent in a system where concentrated wealth directly translates into unchecked control over the lives and liberties of everyday citizens.
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The Art of the Steal is a provocative thought experiment unfolding in real time, warning of the catastrophic consequences when concentrated political and financial power merge to reshape national policy. Through a confluence of massive job cuts, aggressive trade tariffs, mass deportations, and the cascading societal disruptions that follow, the average American household faces an annual economic burden of approximately 11, 500 from direct policy impacts, plus an additional 2, 100 to 4, 200 from deportation-induced disruptions. Over a four-year presidential term, this culminates in a staggering cumulative loss of roughly 54, 400 to 62, 800 per household or an estimated 5. 44 to 6. 28 trillion on a national scale.
Moreover, these policies will disrupt every facet of daily life - from the availability of essential and luxury goods, to the viability of businesses, to the effectiveness of military procurement, law enforcement, and educational opportunities. Most alarmingly, the erosion of civil liberties and the weakening of democratic institutions pose an existential threat to family security, economic stability, and personal freedom. When you see the true cost to your family, economy, security, and liberty, the systematic theft committed by those at the apex of power becomes undeniable.
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References D. Autor, D. Dorn and G. Hanson, The China Syndrome: Local Labor Market Effects of Import Competition in the United States, American Economic Review, vol. 103, no. 6, pp. 2121-2168, 2013. R.C. Feenstra and A.H. Rose, International Logit Demand Models, Heterogeneous Firms and International Trade, International Economics Journal, vol. 7, no. 3, pp. 295-321, 2011. U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Government Employment Data, Census. gov, accessed Mar. 2020. Congressional Research Service, U.S. Humanitarian Assistance: Overview and Trends, CRS Report, 2019. Recent trade impact analyses, various studies on international economic policy, 2020. Studies on the Economic Impact of Immigration and Deportation, e.g. Migration Policy Institute, 2018. Research on Economic Downturns and Crime Rates, e.g. studies from the National Bureau of Economic Research. Analyses on the Impact of Supply Chain Disruptions on Consumer Goods and Business Bankruptcies, various industry reports, 2020.
carpetbagger
(5,225 posts)I hate to be the copyright fairy, but be aware that the mods are fairly strict with a four paragraph limit to article quotes.
It's a good read, though, and I welcome you to DU.
When it comes to the article, I am sure it's ok. I am the original author after all, and all sources of data have been cited. Wrote it yesterday after having toyed with the idea over a few days during one of my manic streaks (I have bipolar, so I get spurts of "energy"

creon
(1,478 posts)Eurpean countries should form a new organization, increase defense soending.
After the organization is formed, and defense spending incrased, European contries should leave NATO.
That leaves NATO with one meber. The US.