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mvd

(65,515 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 05:27 PM Monday

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) mvd Monday OP
Again? Ocelot II Monday #1
It's nothing to be ashamed of. My mom's lawyer is the same way mvd Monday #2
I actually took my anxiety medication before starting this.. mvd Monday #3
NO MORE bluestarone Monday #4
He found a pool of reliable suckers JoseBalow Monday #9
don't know what your situation is, but amazon will now allow ebt purchases for food ... Grasswire2 Monday #16
Yes, that's true mvd Monday #22
incidentally, some people's ebt benefit is also available as cash, with a card. nt Grasswire2 Monday #29
Tip is optional. quaint Tuesday #53
Exactly...this is getting old. anciano Monday #26
I can even pay smaller amounts back in a loan mvd Monday #5
You're going to have to get a job XanaDUer2 Monday #6
Won't get ForgedCrank Monday #11
I don't get it XanaDUer2 Monday #12
Ah, but I think ForgedCrank Monday #13
I have $150 XanaDUer2 Monday #14
Your story of the restaurant worker reminds me of something I saw... 3catwoman3 Tuesday #57
Is this the Xmas handout, or will that one come later? JoseBalow Monday #7
Again, I just am not going to argue mvd Monday #8
Being trained for a job XanaDUer2 Monday #10
Someone please help mvd Monday #15
You know there are a lot of good, compassionate people here True Dough Monday #17
Who was the robber who answered XanaDUer2 Monday #18
It's really hard to believe you MissB Monday #19
I offered you $500 if you could prove a SINGLE thing you claim JoseBalow Monday #20
I remember that True Dough Monday #21
It's proof positive that everything he claims is bullshit JoseBalow Tuesday #37
Added my PayPal address mvd Monday #23
Prove it. Post a pic of the damaged airbed JoseBalow Monday #25
Medicare will supply a hospital bed MotownPgh Tuesday #31
That's a good idea mvd Tuesday #32
Still waiting for you to prove a single thing you claim JoseBalow Tuesday #34
Caregiving. MotownPgh Tuesday #59
Merry Christmas, MVD PennRalphie Monday #24
Sad situation indeed.... anciano Monday #27
Again Para722 Monday #28
Kick before logging off for the night mvd Tuesday #30
You spelled "preying" wrong JoseBalow Tuesday #33
One more thing mvd Tuesday #35
Prove it. Post a pic of the alleged damaged airbed JoseBalow Tuesday #36
And this is the worst one yet mvd Tuesday #38
Prove it. JoseBalow Tuesday #39
Please help mvd Tuesday #40
Having it today is also very important.. mvd Tuesday #41
You have been told this 1000 times XanaDUer2 Tuesday #42
Watch Para722 Tuesday #43
As I said.. mvd Tuesday #44
? XanaDUer2 Tuesday #45
Mvd XanaDUer2 Tuesday #46
You paid almost $400 for cleaning?! OMG you could have done it yourself! madibella Tuesday #47
Not true at all mvd Tuesday #48
She should have fronted the money XanaDUer2 Tuesday #49
A picture of a "broken" airbed is too personal to post? PoindexterOglethorpe Tuesday #52
If your house is really on the market, the realtor would pay the $360 to have it cleaned. Fla Dem Tuesday #50
Exactly! This and his "mom". I don't believe she exists. n/t Raven Tuesday #54
They wanted an even more expensive one mvd Tuesday #61
Your neighbors are 20 feet from your front door PennRalphie Tuesday #63
I told him knock on a few doors during the day XanaDUer2 Tuesday #65
Something's not right here. This is a beautiful, modern home. madibella Tuesday #68
Only 2 possibilities here: either he's a liar and this is not his home: or he's a grifter and it is. Raven Tuesday #69
Request For Funds Denied... anciano Tuesday #51
Let's be honest, he's a great writer PennRalphie Tuesday #55
Have you thought about getting a job? bif Tuesday #56
For several yrs XanaDUer2 Tuesday #58
Then why is he allowed to keep begging? bif Tuesday #60
That I don't know XanaDUer2 Tuesday #62
Maybe time for the ol' "Ignore List" bif Tuesday #66
Yeah. XanaDUer2 Tuesday #67
"Drugs are bad, m'kay?" - Mr. Mackey. megahertz Tuesday #64
I'm going to delete this mvd Tuesday #70

Ocelot II

(121,224 posts)
1. Again?
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 05:30 PM
Monday

mvd

(65,515 posts)
2. It's nothing to be ashamed of. My mom's lawyer is the same way
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 05:36 PM
Monday

I get embarrassed anyway and wish I could give for the holidays.

mvd

(65,515 posts)
3. I actually took my anxiety medication before starting this..
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 05:45 PM
Monday

..because I worry about the threads so much. My mom’s lawyer gave me the advice to apply for EBT even though I had been turned down before. They finally realized their mistake and we get for a 2 person household now. Accessing the food is still a problem. Looked into county transportation options and nothing works well yet. Hope still turns out.

Anyway don’t want to argue

bluestarone

(18,335 posts)
4. NO MORE
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 05:59 PM
Monday

You have bled people enough here.

JoseBalow

(5,487 posts)
9. He found a pool of reliable suckers
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 06:17 PM
Monday

Like drumpf, why give up on the grift that keeps on giving? There are some that actually defend him!

Grasswire2

(13,723 posts)
16. don't know what your situation is, but amazon will now allow ebt purchases for food ...
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 07:58 PM
Monday

...and will deliver.

mvd

(65,515 posts)
22. Yes, that's true
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 08:40 PM
Monday

As far as I know they still have service fee/tip not covered by EBT. Embarrassingly I only have 89 cents.

Grasswire2

(13,723 posts)
29. incidentally, some people's ebt benefit is also available as cash, with a card. nt
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 10:45 PM
Monday

quaint

(3,611 posts)
53. Tip is optional.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:37 AM
Tuesday

anciano

(1,568 posts)
26. Exactly...this is getting old.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 09:43 PM
Monday

mvd

(65,515 posts)
5. I can even pay smaller amounts back in a loan
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 06:05 PM
Monday

Last edited Mon Dec 9, 2024, 07:01 PM - Edit history (1)

This time it will be a couple weeks until I have the money.

XanaDUer2

(14,336 posts)
6. You're going to have to get a job
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 06:12 PM
Monday

This is untenable. You constantly checking to see if your mom's SS came in was disturbing post. You all just cannot do it. It has been like this years. Why won't you go to PA dept of rehab?

ForgedCrank

(2,330 posts)
11. Won't get
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 06:47 PM
Monday

a job, and constantly waiting from moms SS payment to post.
This is so wrong. His elderly mother doesn't even have food security because he's apparently the one controlling her SS benefits. And now yet another monthly emergency that wouldn't exist had he gotten a job years ago when this grift started.
Even suggesting it has become a joke. We all know he has no intention of ever working if he can make up enough excuses to get out of it. Even a part time Walmart gig would gross 1000/mo. But he lives on the most dangerous street on the planet and can't ride a bike anywhere, and he's disabled even though he can't get SSI approved. Etc etc

XanaDUer2

(14,336 posts)
12. I don't get it
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 06:52 PM
Monday

I mean, I'm only getting ssdi. Its scary. But every month he has a disaster. I would get a job to not have to feel this way constantly. I mean, once the house sells and they have money, will this continue.

He can get a WFH job data entry. Meds can be delivered. Why is his mother constantly falling. Is all this true? Is there social worker? An elderly person AGAIN doesn't have food? Id be mortified if this was my mother.

ForgedCrank

(2,330 posts)
13. Ah, but I think
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 07:08 PM
Monday

you actually do get it. It's just that the rules of civility and etiquette prevent us from saying it out loud, and we should probably stick with that. We can dance around the edges, but we all know what is going on here. And it won't end until you-know-who gets involved and puts a stop to it. DU'ers have lost untold thousands to this. And who even knows if this is the only place he's posting this same stuff, and all because he doesn't want to work.
I went to a breakfast restaurant a few days back,and our waiter was a younger fella (25-30 maybe?) with what I believe was MS. I've seen him working there for several months now. He struggles quite a bit. But you know what? He got up that day knowing what he was in for, and by God, he did it anyway because all he wants is a life, and he wants to support himself. I can respect the hell out of someone who gets up and does that every day knowing full well they will be swimming upstream the entire way, beginning with things as simple as taking a shower and getting dressed. But he keeps doing that every day instead of begging for money on the internet.

XanaDUer2

(14,336 posts)
14. I have $150
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 07:13 PM
Monday

And feel like a chump. There really needs to be permission for these. Liberals are nice ppl, and money requests on DU makes it seems legit.

If this is all true, the mom needs to take the proceeds from her house, get into a facility, and have utilities and food and help so shes not falling...is this abuse?!

3catwoman3

(25,574 posts)
57. Your story of the restaurant worker reminds me of something I saw...
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:08 AM
Tuesday

...while in nursing school back in 1972. Those of us enrolled in a summer elective called Chronic Pediatric were taken by our instructor to observe various activities at a sheltered workshop that provided jobs/activities for people with various physical or intellectual challenges. The folks working there did a variety of things - collating small local phone books, operating a machine that made the stick -on bows that we all put on holiday and birthday presents, etc.

What has stuck vividly in my memory all these years is a circle of people who were sorting items for recycling. One young man was very severely affected by cerebral palsy, and had extremely tight contractures of all his joints - couldn't straighten out his knees, elbows, or hands. His job was to crush cans before they went into the recycling bins. To accomplish this, he was sitting on the floor and would lean his whole body sideways against a can to flatten it. The image is seared into my mind's eye, and always brings tears to my eyes when I tell someone about it.

I remember thinking that if this young man, as limited as he was, had found a way to have a purpose, there was not much excuse for almost anyone to sit on their ass and do nothing.

JoseBalow

(5,487 posts)
7. Is this the Xmas handout, or will that one come later?
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 06:14 PM
Monday

This seems a bit early, so I'm guessing the Yule Beg will be separate.


mvd

(65,515 posts)
8. Again, I just am not going to argue
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 06:16 PM
Monday

Things sometimes are more easily said than done.

XanaDUer2

(14,336 posts)
10. Being trained for a job
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 06:22 PM
Monday

Free, assistive devices given to you, housing, being placed...cannot you see why you're putting yourself and your mother in these disasters constantly? How old are you?

THIS IS NUTS!

mvd

(65,515 posts)
15. Someone please help
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 07:55 PM
Monday

It’s like a nightmare. I know there are a lot of good, compassionate people here. My grandfather was that way. He would give you the shirt off your back. There was an occurrence where a $20 bill came from him after he died. Bittersweet.

True Dough

(20,603 posts)
17. You know there are a lot of good, compassionate people here
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 08:08 PM
Monday

because they have given to you over and over again. At some point, the fountain of generosity runs dry.

XanaDUer2

(14,336 posts)
18. Who was the robber who answered
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 08:10 PM
Monday

Why did he rob banks? Bc that's where the money is

MissB

(16,105 posts)
19. It's really hard to believe you
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 08:21 PM
Monday

Because you’ve asked again and again. And you’ve gotten amazing advice and been pointed to great resources.

Yet, once again, you’re back to ask for more money.

I think folks are good and generous but at this point it seems more like enabling than help.

JoseBalow

(5,487 posts)
20. I offered you $500 if you could prove a SINGLE thing you claim
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 08:21 PM
Monday

You refused, because you couldn't.

I then offered it if you could show a single thing you have done to help yourself or your situation. You made a bunch of lame excuses and then deleted your post to avoid replying or any further discussion.

True Dough

(20,603 posts)
21. I remember that
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 08:25 PM
Monday

You'd think $500 would be quite the incentive if the story was true.

JoseBalow

(5,487 posts)
37. It's proof positive that everything he claims is bullshit
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 01:50 AM
Tuesday

and he running a grift with every one of these fake "emergencies"

mvd

(65,515 posts)
23. Added my PayPal address
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 08:59 PM
Monday

We won’t even have beds to sleep on tonight. As bad luck is attracted to us, now mom’s airbed broke. This is really bad.

I will offer to pay back any amount just to get through this.

JoseBalow

(5,487 posts)
25. Prove it. Post a pic of the damaged airbed
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 09:16 PM
Monday

Prove anything you claim, one single thing...

MotownPgh

(367 posts)
31. Medicare will supply a hospital bed
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 12:39 AM
Tuesday

for your mom free of charge

mvd

(65,515 posts)
32. That's a good idea
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 01:15 AM
Tuesday

It won’t solve tonight but could solve this long term airbed problem.

JoseBalow

(5,487 posts)
34. Still waiting for you to prove a single thing you claim
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 01:26 AM
Tuesday

Please explain why you can't post a pic of the alleged damaged airbeds

MotownPgh

(367 posts)
59. Caregiving.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:13 AM
Tuesday

I am and have been a caregiver for 2 (currently one) people in their 90s. With all due respect it's seems that you cannot handle everything that comes with it. You are in danger of being reported for elder abuse. I would check out care facilities for her ASAP before it's taken out of your hands.

PennRalphie

(305 posts)
24. Merry Christmas, MVD
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 09:12 PM
Monday

Your mother put her house on the market at the end of summer?? Didn’t you claim she had offers? Once she received the offer, she would have negotiated a few days, she would have closed in about 30
days.

The real estate market here in Western PA is very strong. It can’t be that different in the Eastern part of PA.

Everyone here seems to be really frustrated with you. They offer incredible suggestions that you ignore. Usually you claim an invisible “donor” gave you money, you quickly delete the post when further funds fail to materialize.

If you’re taking anxiety medication just to post on a website, perhaps you should think about permanently logging off.

I hope your mother has a very Merry Christmas.

anciano

(1,568 posts)
27. Sad situation indeed....
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 10:07 PM
Monday

perhaps you and your mom should check out the local homeless shelters. They at least have beds and food. Just trying to help....
Happy Holidays 🎄

Para722

(10 posts)
28. Again
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 10:42 PM
Monday

This is Torch the Witch 2.0 I go.that far back

mvd

(65,515 posts)
30. Kick before logging off for the night
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 12:16 AM
Tuesday

Really praying a kind soul helps.

JoseBalow

(5,487 posts)
33. You spelled "preying" wrong
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 01:23 AM
Tuesday

I can't believe DU allows you to keep doing this.

mvd

(65,515 posts)
35. One more thing
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 01:34 AM
Tuesday

The only thing this should getting “old” for is mom and me. I of course would rather not do these. But it was very important.

JoseBalow

(5,487 posts)
36. Prove it. Post a pic of the alleged damaged airbed
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 01:40 AM
Tuesday

So very easy to do, if it was true

mvd

(65,515 posts)
38. And this is the worst one yet
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 01:54 AM
Tuesday

I hope someone sees this. We’re not doing well tonight.

JoseBalow

(5,487 posts)
39. Prove it.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 01:58 AM
Tuesday

mvd

(65,515 posts)
40. Please help
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 06:15 AM
Tuesday

Mom’s going to have to to the hospital before long.

mvd

(65,515 posts)
41. Having it today is also very important..
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 06:36 AM
Tuesday

because I could order food at midnight with EBT. We’re out of everything. I’d help someone if I could in their greatest time of need ..

XanaDUer2

(14,336 posts)
42. You have been told this 1000 times
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:13 AM
Tuesday

Call your social worker. Why is your mom going to the hospital? Maybe she should, frankly. You can get food from a pantry. This whole thing is crazy at this point.

Para722

(10 posts)
43. Watch
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:22 AM
Tuesday

Now mom will be in the ambulance going to the ER and he needs xyz amount emergently
End of the day he has gotten thousands of dollars , multiple thousands and a million good ideas and advise and never once has been able to verify or had someone verify any of his claims
I went back into some of the old threads and saved some of the ideas offered to help other people
In the end he just wants free money

mvd

(65,515 posts)
44. As I said..
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:26 AM
Tuesday

If you can’t send $300, don’t worry about it. Anything would help!

The cleaning cost $360 in itself. Without it the potential house buyers would have walked out, really. But it hurt us badly.

XanaDUer2

(14,336 posts)
45. ?
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:27 AM
Tuesday

Nt

XanaDUer2

(14,336 posts)
46. Mvd
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:45 AM
Tuesday

If you're poor, you clean stuff yourself. Holy cow. You do what you have to when you don't have enough money..


Someone needs to interview your mom in a medical setting, alone, about what is going on.

madibella

(164 posts)
47. You paid almost $400 for cleaning?! OMG you could have done it yourself!
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:57 AM
Tuesday

I think people would help if you were truly in need, but honestly it doesn’t seem to be the case.
There are literally years and years of posts by you exactly like this. Your poor mom has “fallen” numerous times and it’s always a last minute emergency. No food, mom is injured, etc etc. It is completely unbelievable in the true sense of the word. There is never any proof when proof could easily be given.

You have been given incredibly helpful advice with a level of detail that anyone who truly wanted to better their situation would appreciate. The only posts that you interact with are those who “donate”. You only want money, you don’t want help.

I don’t think it’s very nice to take advantage of people’s kindness. YOU have everything you need to better your situation. Please don’t continue this, allow people’s generosity to meet someone who is truly in need. That person is not you.

mvd

(65,515 posts)
48. Not true at all
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:59 AM
Tuesday

Your whole post is not true. I can send pictures and proof but in public? Some want me to send everything personal.

BTW we can only do light cleaning. The lawyer recommended this cleaner and she knows and understands are situation much better than some here.

XanaDUer2

(14,336 posts)
49. She should have fronted the money
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:03 AM
Tuesday

I'm poor. I can barely get off the floor. I scrub the floor bc...my ass had to and I don't get help. That is outrageous amount of money and your lawyer should know that.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,771 posts)
52. A picture of a "broken" airbed is too personal to post?
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:31 AM
Tuesday

Really?

Fla Dem

(25,785 posts)
50. If your house is really on the market, the realtor would pay the $360 to have it cleaned.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:04 AM
Tuesday

In fact the realtor should be the 1st one making sure you home is marketable. He/She can deduct any expenses from the final sale to be reimbursed.

Please post the listing for your house so we can see that it's actually for sale.

Raven

(14,121 posts)
54. Exactly! This and his "mom". I don't believe she exists. n/t
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:40 AM
Tuesday

mvd

(65,515 posts)
61. They wanted an even more expensive one
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:17 AM
Tuesday

And I don’t want more off. Here is the listing. Only posting personal info since I gave permission for this to be locked:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/317-Fairfield-Cir-S-Royersford-PA-19468/104373065_zpid/

PennRalphie

(305 posts)
63. Your neighbors are 20 feet from your front door
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:23 AM
Tuesday

And they don’t help a starving, elderly woman without a bed????

I’m speechless.

Why won’t your neighbors give you a ride to the doctors, food banks or anywhere else???

This makes the least sense since you’ve been posting.

Your mother’s home should have sold in a week.

Now things are REALLY off.

XanaDUer2

(14,336 posts)
65. I told him knock on a few doors during the day
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:29 AM
Tuesday

Maybe take the mom if she can walk. Explain the situation. Don't be proud. There will be a neighbor who will help. Where is the social worker?

madibella

(164 posts)
68. Something's not right here. This is a beautiful, modern home.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:45 AM
Tuesday

I am stunned. All this time you gave the impression of a desperate circumstance, a home in disrepair, bare cupboards.

Now I am certain that there is no excuse. Your commentary does not match the reality of this listing.
What is really going on?

Raven

(14,121 posts)
69. Only 2 possibilities here: either he's a liar and this is not his home: or he's a grifter and it is.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:49 AM
Tuesday

anciano

(1,568 posts)
51. Request For Funds Denied...
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 09:16 AM
Tuesday

not '"verifiably necessary".

PennRalphie

(305 posts)
55. Let's be honest, he's a great writer
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 10:00 AM
Tuesday

He knows how to elicit sympathy. “Emergency” “mom is starving” “we have no bed to sleep in”.

If this was the first time seeing one of his posts, you would be inclined to give him money. What’s the big deal about giving him five dollars. Won’t hurt me and maybe it will help him.

That’s what he counts on. He knows that anyone who has seen any of his previous posts knows his claims are dubious at best. We know that if he had started working at his local grocery store two weeks ago, even using uber as transportation, he would have $300 right now. He knows the state will get a job for him. He knows all of this. But face it, it’s far easier to sit in front of a screen playing a game than it is to work. Just a fact.

The anxiety medicine he now claims to take, just to post on the internet, is certainly a new claim. Wonder how he managed to travel to THAT doctor. Certainly, not on foot, since he lives on the most dangerous road in PA.

He claims someone here on DU always “helps” him with money. It’s about time he’ll claim that, delete the post, until the next time.

bif

(24,132 posts)
56. Have you thought about getting a job?
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:05 AM
Tuesday

XanaDUer2

(14,336 posts)
58. For several yrs
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:11 AM
Tuesday

I've told him about PA's version of the Dept of Vocational Rehab. They train, can get him new hearing aids( he indicated he needs new ones)and can place him in a WFH job. PA has an excellent, resource-rich dept. All free. Total help. Had he done this last yrar. He could have at least, food money. UBER money, etc. But he won't.

And practically every month this happens. DU cannot be expected to support him. And these mom stories are disturbing.

bif

(24,132 posts)
60. Then why is he allowed to keep begging?
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:14 AM
Tuesday

Not to be cruel, but I'm just curious.

XanaDUer2

(14,336 posts)
62. That I don't know
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:21 AM
Tuesday

I follow bc I stupidly gave him a nice chunk a few yrs ago. And I think others need to know this is questionable. Every one is the last one. Gotta meet the goal. Mom is elderly, sick, falling. Going tothe Er etc. He won't use his Medicaid dentist. On and on. It is kookoo land at this point

bif

(24,132 posts)
66. Maybe time for the ol' "Ignore List"
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:40 AM
Tuesday

XanaDUer2

(14,336 posts)
67. Yeah.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:44 AM
Tuesday

megahertz

(182 posts)
64. "Drugs are bad, m'kay?" - Mr. Mackey.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:29 AM
Tuesday

mvd

(65,515 posts)
70. I'm going to delete this
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:52 AM
Tuesday

as I am not sure the hosts have the ability to lock. You can still contact me by PM.

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