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RussellCattle

(1,928 posts)
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 07:03 PM Mar 15

Peanut allergies. In the 1950's, were school children occasionally carted off from the lunchroom experiencing.....

......anaphylactic shock? Or breaking out in hives and being told "you probably shouldn't eat peanut butter"? As a child of the fifties, I certainly don't remember such things. As a grandparent who occasionally visits elementary school cafeterias, I wonder when all the cautionary notes and posters about allergies, even "peanut free tables", first appeared.

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Peanut allergies. In the 1950's, were school children occasionally carted off from the lunchroom experiencing..... (Original Post) RussellCattle Mar 15 OP
Peanut allergies have been around for years - Ocelot II Mar 15 #1
That's what I was thinking too.. Something has changed. RussellCattle Mar 15 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 16 #16
Good morning sunshine. William769 Mar 16 #18
No. See below. Aristus Mar 16 #24
Until the late 1990's, the prevalence of peanut allergies in the pediatric population was about 0.6%. Aristus Mar 16 #20
I grew up playing in dirt, climbing trees, taking care of animals. I have no allergies whatever. Walleye Mar 16 #27
Me too. defacto7 Mar 16 #30
This is the way stoned Mar 18 #64
One of my daughters has severe peanut and tree nut allergies Wicked Blue Mar 16 #31
"RFK Jr's blaming vaccinations is ridiculous nonsense and has been disproved." ShazzieB Mar 16 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 17 #44
adios ya fucking git Celerity Mar 17 #47
Oh, I'll bet I know who that was! 😁 ShazzieB Mar 17 #53
Aristus - I should have guessed that you would be the one to come through with an anawer to my question. I've always... RussellCattle Mar 16 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 16 #36
cat allergy here. we had several cats (at different times) when i was a kid orleans Mar 16 #39
I have a cat allergy, too, discovered mnhtnbb Mar 17 #48
i was eight yrs old when we took our cata and her two kittens to a shelter orleans Mar 17 #57
I was never allergic to dogs, either. mnhtnbb Mar 17 #63
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 17 #43
Newborns? We still recommend nothing but breastmilk or formula AllyCat Mar 17 #49
My sister didnt breast feed, MotownPgh Mar 17 #55
Since the prevalence of peanut allergies in the pediatric community before the study was published was 0.6%, Aristus Mar 17 #56
Interesting question. Quick look seems to indicate a big increase in peanut allergies in 1990s. Silent Type Mar 15 #2
Oh my God! RFKjr !!! He might ban any mention of peanuts in schools and take down the posters. RussellCattle Mar 15 #6
I'm more concerned True Dough Mar 17 #50
Post removed Post removed Mar 16 #19
Booby, huh? Dang LG, you don't even try. Pizza time! marble falls Mar 16 #22
Peanut allergies tripled during the 80s and 90s, leading to much more awareness unblock Mar 15 #3
Please understand that I mean this with respect, but that bit about the "emergency room pull-through"..... RussellCattle Mar 15 #7
Yeah, well, sometimes being paranoid pays off.... unblock Mar 15 #11
Nicely done though. RussellCattle Mar 16 #14
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We have a similar experience. defacto7 Mar 16 #32
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Before Epi-Pens, they died Grolph_ Mar 15 #4
Change in pesticides...? FirstLight Mar 15 #8
A Reasonable Theory ProfessorGAC Mar 15 #12
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In the 70s one of our lunch choices XanaDUer2 Mar 15 #9
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bs eShirl Mar 16 #17
Did you buy your peanuts from the vending machine by the watwr fountain in the library? ... marble falls Mar 16 #21
Peanut allergies have tripled. Phoenix61 Mar 15 #10
My kids have always lived a down and dirty life. defacto7 Mar 16 #33
When my kids were little, late seventies, there were parents that would pick up the pacifier from the floor and..... RussellCattle Mar 16 #37
I thought Trump banned peanut allergies. rickyhall Mar 15 #13
Yes, by executive order bottomofthehill Mar 16 #28
Inflammation level is high now from sugar, toxins, frankenstein foods, pollutants bucolic_frolic Mar 16 #29
But peanut paste is saving lives in Africa. Go figure. Sneederbunk Mar 16 #34
One product for malnourished babies is called "Plumpy Nut. " When asked by an American about... Hekate Mar 16 #41
Yes. President John Adams daughter had a masectomy. Sneederbunk Mar 16 #42
Not anymore. Trump pulled all the funding. yardwork Mar 17 #54
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bye bye asshole Celerity Mar 17 #46
Allergies Maninacan Mar 17 #51
Not just peanuts. Voltaire2 Mar 17 #52
I wonder if giving kids orange you glad.... Mar 17 #58
Boy you must really love us. William769 Mar 17 #59
in fairness moving on from autism induced by vaccines took enormous intellectual effort. nt. Voltaire2 Mar 17 #60
Good morning Sunshine!!! GP6971 Mar 17 #61
read a fucking book while you are there Kali Mar 17 #62

Ocelot II

(124,320 posts)
1. Peanut allergies have been around for years -
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 07:06 PM
Mar 15

a friend who was born in 1949 is deathly allergic to them, still gets horrible asthma attacks from accidentally eating just a small amount - but I don't remember it being an issue or a concern in school when I was a kid. Maybe the allergy has become more common in recent years for some reason.

Response to RussellCattle (Reply #5)

Aristus

(69,710 posts)
20. Until the late 1990's, the prevalence of peanut allergies in the pediatric population was about 0.6%.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:30 AM
Mar 16

Then a study was published in (I think) the British Medical Journal reiterating the severity of peanut allergies, and wrongfully recommending keeping infants and toddlers away from peanuts at all costs, which is the opposite of how one prevents hypersensitive allergen reactions, which is gradual exposure in increasing amounts.

The percentage of peanut allergies exploded to the point that by about 2008, the prevalence of allergies among children was close to 50%. Certainly the sale of Epipens went through the roof.

Allergists have known for decades that the way to prevent allergic reactions was by gradual exposure to the allergen, not total prohibition. Babies who play around in the dirt and mud get far fewer allergies as they grow than babies who are restricted to near-sterile conditions as their systems develop.

No one is quite sure why the medical community got this one wrong, but we’ve been working to reverse the damage. For newborns who are breast-feeding, offering a tiny amount of creamy peanut butter in-between feedings, increasing the amount gradually, is the way to go.

Walleye

(39,752 posts)
27. I grew up playing in dirt, climbing trees, taking care of animals. I have no allergies whatever.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:45 AM
Mar 16

I feel very lucky about that

Wicked Blue

(7,885 posts)
31. One of my daughters has severe peanut and tree nut allergies
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 10:18 AM
Mar 16

She was born in the early 1980s. We discovered the allergies when she reacted to a cookie made with black walnuts when she was 4. She was also found to be allergic to eggs and cows' milk at the time, but those went away after a few years. At the time, peanut allergies were rare, and her elementary school had no procedures to protect her.

She was always allowed to play outdoors. In South Plainfield we had a big back yard. One problem was that half the yard flooded badly when Bound Brook overflowed. That particular waterway was loaded with all sorts of nasty chemicals from the many nearby chemical manufacturing companies. I wouldn't be surprised if some were deposited in our yard by the floods. I can't prove any kind of connection, but I wonder whether exposure to some unknown chemical may have triggered her immune system to react to certain proteins.

I also wonder if the ever-increasing number of chemicals and plastics we are all exposed to may be affecting immune systems, particularly in babies and children. Maybe some substance became widespread in the 1980s and 1990s that wasn't around earlier. I doubt we'll ever know the answer, though.

RFK Jr's blaming vaccinations is ridiculous nonsense and has been disproved.

ShazzieB

(20,308 posts)
40. "RFK Jr's blaming vaccinations is ridiculous nonsense and has been disproved."
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 05:16 PM
Mar 16

⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ THIS ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️

RFK Jr is a brain-damaged (from all the drugs he did) blithering idiot!

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ShazzieB

(20,308 posts)
53. Oh, I'll bet I know who that was! 😁
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 09:14 AM
Mar 17

Sorry I missed it, but that's what usually happens when someone trolls me that early in the morning.

 

RussellCattle

(1,928 posts)
35. Aristus - I should have guessed that you would be the one to come through with an anawer to my question. I've always...
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:50 PM
Mar 16

.......enjoyed your expertise on things medical, here on DU. Thanks.

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orleans

(35,922 posts)
39. cat allergy here. we had several cats (at different times) when i was a kid
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 05:16 PM
Mar 16

i coughed a lot (b/c i couldn't breathe properly), sneeze a lot, and would get asthma attacks.

finally a doctor determined, besides the fact that i had asthma, that i was allergic to cats.
our last cat had kittens and it broke my heart (and my mom's heart) that we had to take them to a shelter -- and back then there was no guarantee they wouldn't be killed.

doctors said i would "outgrow" the allergy. i'm in my sixties and still waiting to "outgrow" it.
still have asthma

so, my exposure to cats didn't work to quell that allergy i had/have. unfortunately.

mnhtnbb

(32,441 posts)
48. I have a cat allergy, too, discovered
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 06:54 AM
Mar 17

when I was about 6 or 7 and we got a new cat. Asthma.
Fast forward to my 30's and we ( my 2nd husband and I) started having cats as pets. Still allergic, but I learned to wash my hands after petting the kitty. Had cats for pets with both boys as they were growing up. Still allergic! Went to the allergist in my 40's after we moved to NC and my allergies were the worst they'd ever been. The day I was tested they told me I won the award for most allergies. My back was one large bump! Allergic to everything, weeds and grasses and trees. Put me on Advair and said get rid of the cat. I didn't!

Now that I live alone I no longer have a cat because it wouldn't be fair not to love on it and I'd be constantly washing my hands to prevent an allergic reaction. And I'm still taking the generic of Advair for my asthma, at 74.

orleans

(35,922 posts)
57. i was eight yrs old when we took our cata and her two kittens to a shelter
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 10:49 AM
Mar 17

and didn't have any pets/animals in the house until i was 14 or 15 and my mom brought home a little dog. since then i've lived with dogs all my life - never allergic to them.


mnhtnbb

(32,441 posts)
63. I was never allergic to dogs, either.
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 05:54 PM
Mar 17

My last dog went across the Rainbow Bridge in 2020. I just don't want another one.

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AllyCat

(17,835 posts)
49. Newborns? We still recommend nothing but breastmilk or formula
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 07:03 AM
Mar 17

For 4-6 months. We don’t even recommend water until 4-6 months.

MotownPgh

(441 posts)
55. My sister didnt breast feed,
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 09:37 AM
Mar 17

Last edited Mon Mar 17, 2025, 03:29 PM - Edit history (1)

but we gave her baby boy peanut butter everyday. I think her doc told her to do it and he has no allergies but probably wouldn't have anyway. There's no way to know!

Aristus

(69,710 posts)
56. Since the prevalence of peanut allergies in the pediatric community before the study was published was 0.6%,
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 09:42 AM
Mar 17

those are betting odds. It's restricting kids from peanuts that leads to hypersensitivity reactions.

Silent Type

(9,017 posts)
2. Interesting question. Quick look seems to indicate a big increase in peanut allergies in 1990s.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 07:11 PM
Mar 15

Don’t know whether it’s due to more exposure of issue or actual changes in food, environment, immunity, etc.

I’m sure RFKJr will figure it out.

 

RussellCattle

(1,928 posts)
6. Oh my God! RFKjr !!! He might ban any mention of peanuts in schools and take down the posters.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 07:32 PM
Mar 15

True Dough

(22,756 posts)
50. I'm more concerned
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 08:04 AM
Mar 17

that they'll ban schools! You know how our ding-dong "dear leader" loves the uneducated, and the uneducated love him!

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unblock

(55,017 posts)
3. Peanut allergies tripled during the 80s and 90s, leading to much more awareness
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 07:24 PM
Mar 15

I think a lot of parents get their kids tested first or are otherwise cautious with peanuts now, especially if there's a family history of allergies.

For our daughter's first experience with peanuts, we drove to the emergency room pull-through and gave her a taste. Good thing, too. Had we done it at home, she would have died before the ambulance could reach our home or we could get her to the hospital.

Prior to all this awareness, I think a lot of kids simply died from their first exposure. So it was even rarer in schools.

 

RussellCattle

(1,928 posts)
7. Please understand that I mean this with respect, but that bit about the "emergency room pull-through".....
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 07:35 PM
Mar 15

......really does take parenting to a new level.

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defacto7

(14,044 posts)
32. We have a similar experience.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 10:34 AM
Mar 16

While my wife was holding our 18 mo daughter at home, I gave her one bite of a peanut butter sandwich I was eating. She immediately projectile vomited, got a rash and began wheezing. We went to the ER and her peanut allergy was suspected and later confirmed. It was a completely new phenomenon to us. She is my 4th child and there has never been such an allergy in ether my wife's or my family history. She's 21 and is at U of P studying nursing and has carried an epipen everywhere from the time she was able to administer it to herself. It has always been categorized as life-threatening.
It is puzzling to me to this day. I grew up eating and exposed to peanuts throughout my childhood and don't remember any other kid having such a reaction. I've always wondered if it's something environmental that's changed or if a suppressed gene is surfacing in populations.

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FirstLight

(14,977 posts)
8. Change in pesticides...?
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 07:36 PM
Mar 15

That seems to also be what's behind the "new" celiac issues, they found it was RoundUp...

ProfessorGAC

(72,378 posts)
12. A Reasonable Theory
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 09:30 PM
Mar 15

But, the most common compound, flumioxazin, wasn't approved for use until 2002.
2,4-D is also used, but that goes back to WW2.
As other posts here stated, the explosion of peanut allergies occurred in the 80s & 90s.
Kind of late for it to be 2,4-D; too soon for flumioxazin.
So, I don't think that's the culprit.
That is, however, just an educated guess.

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XanaDUer2

(15,726 posts)
9. In the 70s one of our lunch choices
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 07:54 PM
Mar 15

Was PB&J. never heard a word about anyone dying or being ill.

I do wonder sometimes why they're are so many food allergies

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marble falls

(64,813 posts)
21. Did you buy your peanuts from the vending machine by the watwr fountain in the library? ...
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 09:30 AM
Mar 16

... in the seventies there lawn darts, too. Asbestos was everywhere, lead paint was on your walls, some cars were unsafe at any speed. I worry for you, I really do.

Phoenix61

(18,283 posts)
10. Peanut allergies have tripled.
Sat Mar 15, 2025, 08:07 PM
Mar 15

“For example, one theory, called the hygiene hypothesis, highlights how the way people who live in developed countries may have an impact on childhood allergies, including peanut allergies. Babies born in developing countries have lower incidence of allergies than those in developed countries. But if a family moves to a more developed country, their children’s incidence of childhood allergies increases. So simply being in the environment of a developed country seems to change things.

The hygiene hypothesis suggests that children who have more exposure to germs and certain infections at a very early age develop immune systems that are better suited to differentiating harmless substances from harmful substances. In this theory, exposure to certain germs teaches the immune system not to overreact. It would also explain why children who grow up on farms or those who have certain types of pets are less likely to develop allergies than other children. But much more research is needed to understand exactly how childhood germ exposure might help prevent allergies”.

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-q-and-a-number-of-children-with-peanut-allergies-has-increased-significantly/

Guess drinking out of the garden hose and kissing the family pets was a good thing.

defacto7

(14,044 posts)
33. My kids have always lived a down and dirty life.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 10:42 AM
Mar 16

My daughter has a life-threatening peanut allergy but not my other kids nor in our history. This is anecdotal of course but it's our experience.
I just read that the incidences of child allergies in Great Britain is now falling for some reason.

 

RussellCattle

(1,928 posts)
37. When my kids were little, late seventies, there were parents that would pick up the pacifier from the floor and.....
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 04:59 PM
Mar 16

......go sterilize it in boiling water before giving back to their child. We would just plug it back in to kid and figure it was no dirtier than the thumb it was replacing.

bucolic_frolic

(49,920 posts)
29. Inflammation level is high now from sugar, toxins, frankenstein foods, pollutants
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 10:04 AM
Mar 16

When the dam is full, the least little shower causes overflow or breakage. Our inflammation response is near that level. So therefore more susceptible to peanuts. Explained to me by allergy doctor, 1990s.

Maybe it's passed from parents to kids in vitro, worsening each successive generation.

Few bee allergies way back too. Rarely heard of it.

Hekate

(97,318 posts)
41. One product for malnourished babies is called "Plumpy Nut. " When asked by an American about...
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 05:28 PM
Mar 16

…peanut allergies, the African nurse caring for the babies & toddlers said she had never heard of such a thing. And since the little ones in question were dying of starvation right there, the point was moot.

It just makes me wonder what have we done to our food supply in this country.

As for the numerous posts from Message Removed — personally I don’t think it’s vaccinations. There were some children even in past eras who were severely allergic to things like bees and peanuts. They just died quietly at home or in some ER and never made it to school.

Weird stories abound. I’ve been told that “nobody” got breast cancer in Ye Olden Days, but anyone who reads books (!) can name women both fictional and real who died of this terrible disease — and die they did.

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Maninacan

(119 posts)
51. Allergies
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 08:49 AM
Mar 17

At camp a boy was forced to eat bread after stating he could not eat bread. Don't remember the result. The only thing i cannot eat is beets. no allergies.
I guess camp commanders have to keep discipline.

Voltaire2

(15,367 posts)
52. Not just peanuts.
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 08:52 AM
Mar 17

Allergies in general have been increasing in the population of developed regions for a long time.
Asthma is now epidemic, it used to be fairly rare.
Here is an article about the history of the allergy epidemic.


Asthma in children did not start to increase until 1960, but by 1990 it had clearly increased to epidemic numbers in all countries where children had adopted an indoor lifestyle.



https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4617537/
 
58. I wonder if giving kids
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 11:58 AM
Mar 17

4X the vaxxes they used to get in the '60s would have any adverse effect on the immune system...

Voltaire2

(15,367 posts)
60. in fairness moving on from autism induced by vaccines took enormous intellectual effort. nt.
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 12:31 PM
Mar 17
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