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DetlefK

(16,479 posts)
Sat May 28, 2022, 06:08 AM May 2022

Hold on... Thinking that Amber Heard is guilty makes you a misogynist?

https://www.salon.com/2022/05/27/johnny-depp-amber-heard-television-exploitation/

Judging by its impact on the public and pop culture in the last couple months, the trial serves as a prime example of the way in which court-centric media needs to pathologize its subjects by design and maintains a fiduciary love of hating women.

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Over the span of this trial, the same combination of influence and celebrity appeal that once fueled the onset of the #MeToo movement has flipped its allegiances to now actively counter the provision of safe spaces for survivor testimony. Heard's op-ed was once a part of the #MeToo movement, whereas now it is figured as central to the movement's demolition.

As high-profile as the "Aquaman" star was before the trial opened, Heard is currently known by way of the mocking memes and clickbait takes that now flood every corner of the internet. They pick apart her overreactions, her underreactions and her choices of words. Outlets such as The Daily Wire have used her anguished face as a platform for ads discrediting her words and even makeup companies have tossed their opinions into the ring via TikTok smear videos.


Safe spaces for survivor testimony?

Amber Heard took a shit on Johnny Depp's bed.

Amber Heard threw a bottle at Johnny Depp so hard, it cut off the tip of his finger.

Amber Heard admitted on tape to punching Johnny Depp and mocked him on tape how nobody would believe him that he was absued.

Amber Heard took photos of Johnny Depp while he was napping/passed out in a chair and shared them with her friends.

Amber Heard notified TMZ about her filing for divorce before she informed Johnny Depp.

Amber Heard passed an edited video to TMZ, showing Johnny Depp punching kitchen cabinets in anger/frustration, but she cut out the part where she was looking in the camera in the end and was snickering.

During all of her testimony, Amber Heard displayed an abrasive and confrontational personality, unable to answer simple Yes-or-No-questions without picking a fight with the opposing attorney.





And most importantly: The trial is not about whether or not Amber Heard is a domestic violence survivor. The trial is about whether or not she is a domestic violence ABUSER.
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CurtEastPoint

(19,207 posts)
1. I know nothing about this except for what you just wrote. She sounds like a true asshole and abuser
Sat May 28, 2022, 06:31 AM
May 2022

jimfields33

(19,219 posts)
10. Me too.
Sat May 28, 2022, 07:45 AM
May 2022

I don’t get the interest in two super rich people. We put them on pedestals undeserved.

samplegirl

(12,121 posts)
2. I couldn't care less about either one
Sat May 28, 2022, 06:33 AM
May 2022

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of them! Media gave Buffalo shooting 3 days!
I could care less about how he penetrated his
girlfriend. What a waste of air time!

hlthe2b

(106,574 posts)
4. I've seen little of this disgusting spectacle. What little I've seen has set off some instinctive
Sat May 28, 2022, 06:44 AM
May 2022

body language impressions that while unfavorable to both, just do not convey sincerity or honesty when Ms. Heard was speaking. They are both actors. Perhaps Depp is just a better one, but he just strikes me as fed up and unwilling to care at this point. Maybe that makes him an a'hole, but it doesn't necessarily make his account less believable.

If Heard's account is largely untrue or severely aggrandized/exaggerated, she's done intense damage to victims of DV and those abused. I suppose I will never know for sure, but if that is the case, she can never reep what she's already sown. And THAT is the only reason I can find to care about this awful spectacle. If the scales lean more toward Depp being the less truthful of the two, well he's already taken a hit career-wise and I doubt this is likely to change soon. A failed relationship but an even bigger travesty, and not only for these two.

Princess Turandot

(4,826 posts)
9. It's a defamation civil suit...
Sat May 28, 2022, 07:42 AM
May 2022

Depp is suing Heard.

From the related Wikipedia article:

John C. Depp, II v. Amber Laura Heard (CL-2019-2911)[2] is an ongoing defamation trial in Fairfax County, Virginia, that began on April 11, 2022.[3] Plaintiff Johnny Depp is making claim for three counts of defamation for "$50,000,000 +" in damages from defendant Amber Heard,[4] who is counterclaiming $100 million. The parties are film actors who were married from 2015 to 2017.[5] Previously accused by Heard of intimate partner violence, Depp sued his ex-wife in February 2019 over an op-ed she wrote which was published by The Washington Post in December 2018.[6]

Depp blamed Heard's op-ed for extensive financial losses to his career and claimed it damaged his ability to profit from his vocation. In the op-ed, Heard had described becoming "a public figure representing domestic abuse" and "seeing, in real time, how institutions protect men accused of abuse."[7][8]

multigraincracker

(34,208 posts)
6. There are 3 sides to every story.
Sat May 28, 2022, 06:53 AM
May 2022

His, hers and then the truth.


Might have been Ann Landers that said that.

DarthDem

(5,368 posts)
7. "Guilty?"
Sat May 28, 2022, 06:58 AM
May 2022

No. This is a civil case. What's more, it's one where each party is a defendant.

LakeArenal

(29,845 posts)
12. Go Johnny. He's always taken a higher road than she.
Sat May 28, 2022, 10:43 AM
May 2022

I have watched some of the coverage.

For those who claim not watching yet have all types of judgement on both.

Lettuce Be

(2,339 posts)
13. Some things I've read certainly seem to suggest that
Sat May 28, 2022, 05:19 PM
May 2022

I think she's possibly a better actor than he is, but she was overacting quite a bit. I did not watch any of the trial, just saw video clips now and then. It appears they are both abusive and have managed to cancel each other out.

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