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Why did this guy store thousands of rounds of ammunition in his house? (Original Post) El Supremo Jul 2013 OP
Holy crap. Mr. David Jul 2013 #1
because he's a stupid survivalist who doesn't give a shit about the safety of his neighbors. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #2
Duh. +1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #10
2000 rounds isn't much for survivalist Hangingon Jul 2013 #13
so buy it at the range.. or the day you go. That's what I do. mountain grammy Jul 2013 #16
I was a little concerned about that neighbor lady Cirque du So-What Jul 2013 #3
I didn't see any firefighters in the video. Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #4
Too much television and movie nonsense in this culture. People believe what they geckosfeet Jul 2013 #5
A fire department tweet reported that shell casings were found 200 feet from the house. curlyred Jul 2013 #17
depends on the kind of rounds Duckhunter935 Jul 2013 #6
Agreed. Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #11
The rest of the story is here: El Supremo Jul 2013 #7
I think the firefigers did a great job Travis_0004 Jul 2013 #8
Because of the greatest marketing scheme evah! TexasProgresive Jul 2013 #9
Bingo! Some of the guys I work with are convinced that thetr Arkansas Granny Jul 2013 #14
More: El Supremo Jul 2013 #12
2000 rounds isn't a large quantity for a hobbyist SlipperySlope Jul 2013 #15
The fire fighters held back not because of the 2,000 rounnds he reported, but more likely .... marble falls Jul 2013 #18

Cirque du So-What

(27,562 posts)
3. I was a little concerned about that neighbor lady
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:18 PM
Jul 2013

getting too close to the fire and exploding ammo. When the fire has progressed to that point, a garden hose is of no benefit. Is everyone alright? As for motive, I would guess he's an ammo hoarder - all a'feared that the big, bad gummint is gonna curtail retail sales...or something.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
4. I didn't see any firefighters in the video.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:18 PM
Jul 2013

It looked like some neighbors trying to help out until the firefighters arrive.

Either way, ammo cooking off poses no significant danger to firefighters. Its recommended that if there is ammo, they should wear a thick coat (which they do anyway), and put their face mask down. I could see how the noise of ammo cooking off would scare somebody, and maybe hurt somebody who isn't even wearing a shirt, but shouldn't affect a fire fighters ability to put out a fire.

Here is my proof;



Go to 21:30. They take a semi truck with pallets of ammo, set it on fire. A firefighter stands about 10' away, and isn't harmed by the ammo going off. Later a team of firefighters walks up to the truck and puts it out.

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
5. Too much television and movie nonsense in this culture. People believe what they
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:21 PM
Jul 2013

see on tv - they actually think it's real. And we wonder why our laws don't work - they are based on a fanatasy world.

curlyred

(1,879 posts)
17. A fire department tweet reported that shell casings were found 200 feet from the house.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 09:15 PM
Jul 2013

Does this not sound dangerous?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
6. depends on the kind of rounds
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:23 PM
Jul 2013

22 or 5.56, 1000 rounds is not very much. Sounds bad but it is not very dangerous as the rounds are cooking off and do not fire the round with any velocity. I buy in bulk to save money. 500 rounds at a time is really nothing. I just went to the range yesterday and fired about 200 at paper.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
11. Agreed.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:34 PM
Jul 2013

I bought 1000 rounds of .22 for less than 60 bucks a year ago. I easily picked the box up and carried it with one hand.

I also keep about 1000 rounds of 9mm on hand. When all my friends complain about no ammo available I grab 100 rounds from the safe and head out the door.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
8. I think the firefigers did a great job
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:31 PM
Jul 2013

Based on how big it was before they showed up, I would guess they showed up quickly, and put it out just as quickly, which would also seem to show that the ammo didn't slow them down, and there are no reports of the ammo causing any injuries.

So it seems like you just want to use this story to push an anti gun agenda. As I have already pointed out, ammo in a fire isn't dangerous if you are wearing the proper equipment. I'm sure is scary as hell the first time a firefighter encounters it, and to bystanders, but that doesn't make it dangerous.

TexasProgresive

(12,313 posts)
9. Because of the greatest marketing scheme evah!
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:31 PM
Jul 2013

Obamas gonna take our guns and ammo so we gotta stock up, doncha know?

These fools have been buying up ammo hand over fist ever since Obama was elected. And because of the run on ammo creates a shortage in the stores they are sure it's the President's fault- and so they buy more as soon as it is available.

Somebody is making a fortune over these gullible idiots.

Arkansas Granny

(31,855 posts)
14. Bingo! Some of the guys I work with are convinced that thetr
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:27 PM
Jul 2013

are such strict gun control measures on the way that they are hoarding guns and ammo. I asked them where they got their info and it seems that somebody heard someone else say that a guy told him and on and on and on.

The gun shops can't keep ammo in stock and limit sales to so many boxes per customer and that just reinforces their anxiety that they're going to run out of bullets.

It's ignorance feeding on gullibility.

El Supremo

(20,382 posts)
12. More:
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:38 PM
Jul 2013

A person was hospitalized with burns after a fire broke out Saturday morning in the homeowner's Aurora garage containing 2,000 rounds of ammunition, officials said.

At one point, firefighters backed out of the house when the homeowner said there was a large amount of ammunition stored in the basement as well, said Capt. Wendy Lippman of the Aurora Fire Department.

A fire department tweet reported that shell casings were found 200 feet from the house.

(snip)

When firefighters arrived they entered the home to begin extinguishing the blaze but were ordered to leave the house when the homeowner warned about the ammo, she said.

Firefighters then battled the fire with hoses outside the home and it took about an hour to extinguish it — longer than it would have otherwise, Lippman said.

Read more: Homeowner burned in Aurora blaze; firefighters warned of ammo - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23655260/homeowner-burned-aurora-blaze-firefighters-warned-ammo#ixzz2YxaNEjBg
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SlipperySlope

(2,751 posts)
15. 2000 rounds isn't a large quantity for a hobbyist
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:33 PM
Jul 2013

I could easily go through 200 rounds of ammunition myself during an afternoon at the range. If I'm taking other people shooting the bump that up to 500 rounds or more. Many shooters buy in bulk to save money, so having several thousand rounds isn't really a large number.

This is particularly true if the ammo was .22LR. That is frequently sold in 525 round boxes, which themselves are frequently sold in cartons of 4. That is 2100 rounds in a commonly purchased quantity.

marble falls

(62,394 posts)
18. The fire fighters held back not because of the 2,000 rounnds he reported, but more likely ....
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 09:52 AM
Jul 2013

over concerns of the rounds, black powder, re-loading powder he might not have reported. 2,000 rounds is not necessarily a lot of ammo. But then I don't keep my ammo 'out' in my home. Its in the fire rated gun safe or in an ammo storage cabinet in my work shed.

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