Phillips continues to make the rounds. Earlier with Chuck Todd

[question everything]

He was not in politics in 2012 therefore one cannot ask him whether he would have similar ideas when Obama ran for re-election. I know that one of my objections to Sanders is that he wished then for someone to primary challenge Obama.

Todd did show him that when a sitting president is challenged within his party the party loses. Reagan to Ford, Kennedy to Carter.. Phillips did not respond to this.

I think that after they return to their offices, after Labor Day? I will call his office. After all, at some point they did call me to thank me for my support and modest contribution.

[marble falls]

1. Like someone said a long time ago - hang together or hang separately.

[Ocelot II]

2. He's getting a fair amount of pushback locally and from the state party.

He's a very capable Congressman, but I wish he'd back off on this and just do his regular job which he's good at.

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3. More info pls. Didn't catch the Todd show. Who is he, what's the issue?

[dflprincess]

4. Dean Phillips represents Minnesota's 3rd Congressional District

he is in his 3rd term & when first elected in 2018 was the first Democrat to represent that area in nearly 60 years.

His district is made up of Minneapolis suburbs and would be considered "purple" - for those of us who live there, that's an improvement over what it was. Dean is more moderate and makes a deal out of being part of the "problem solvers caucus". There are those of us who wish he'd lay off some of the kumbaya stuff but, over all, he is a good fit for the district.

He has recently announced that he is thinking of running for the Democratic nomination in 2024. Not only would he be challenging any incumbent Democrat, he really is delusional if he thinks he's ready to be president.

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5. Thank you. He's delusional and nutty if he thinks there's any chance...

of his unknown behind unending Biden. The self-importance is clouding his thinking.

[dflprincess]

11. It came as something of a surprise to those us who've supported him since he started his first

campaign in early 2017. People who know him better than I do never saw the ego going crazy like this.

He also annoyed and disappointed me when he came out publicly saying Diane Feinstein should resign. I believe Senator Feinstein has served her constituents, the country, and the Democratic party well. She deserves the respect and consideration that any discussion of her health and ability to continue in her job be done privately - not discussed publicly by a rep (not even from the same state) who thinks it makes him look "bipartisan".

[question everything]

9. On this program, linked below, he no longer suggests his own candidacy - he is improving,

I suppose - but of Democratic governors, preferably from the Midwest: Walz, Whitmer, Evers, Illinois Pritzker

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12. I recognize Whitmer and Pritzker have national profiles from...

good work they've accomplished, the other three not so much. But come on, neither is about to go along with primarying a sitting Democratic president as they've got more sense than that.

Too bad Phillips dosn't. Wonder what kind of drug is he on to even suggest something like that out loud?

[question everything]

7. He is from the "class of 2018" flipped suburbs of Minnepolis that were R for ever

Last week he was on the CBS program.

Here is the program

Starting at the 23 min mark

And the mentioning of other spoiler at the 29 min.

the transcript is

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-august-13-2023-n1307028

CHUCK TODD:

The case against what you're talking about is basically the history of our lifetimes, okay? You go back, the last four sitting presidents who had serious primary challengers, that party lost the White House.

REP. DEAN PHILLIPS:

But Chuck, why did they--

CHUCK TODD:

We can go back to LBJ, but also Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush.

REP. DEAN PHILLIPS:

But why were they primaried? Because people recognized they were weakened. The country was ready to turn the page

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The main objection really is, the first primary, if we will have one, is five months away. One cannot mount a presidential campaign on such a short time.

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8. He should be embarrassed he did that. 5 months out and he...

thinks it's time begin a presidential campaign...and not just and ordinary one...ONE TO PRIMARY A SITTING PRESIDENT.

The self-importance just shines through.

[chowmama]

6. I'm from Minnesota. And I'm really tired of rich people thinking the presidency is a starter job.

He's in his second term as representative, so I suppose it's not quite 'starter'. But I get no feeling that he's able to understand the job. Negotiation, compromise, never getting 100% of your way no matter how right it is, are not CEO experiences. It's not a skill in his toolbox yet. And it's crucial for a president.

There are others more qualified, if Dark Brandon can't or won't run. And I've seen no sign that that's the case.

My first choice - Biden. Second, Harris. Third, Raskin. I'll vote for Phillips only if he's the nominee, and that's only because I'd vote for Fast Eddie (my crazed and slightly feral cat) before I'd vote for a republican. And I vote. Every time. I research and vote for School Board. I show up even if School Board is the only thing on the ballot.

People not voting is how we got Michelle Bachman.

[question everything]

10. Third time, but does not change much

He was elected on 2018, 2020 and 2022.

[LNM]

13. Any idea if he'll be at the Minnesota State Fair?

I'd like to talk to him about this.

[dflprincess]

14. He may be

I haven't been to the fair since 2019 but at that time his booth was just down the street from the DFL's.

Odds are it's still there. It seems once an office holder has a booth it stays in the same location forever.

[geardaddy]

15. I mentioned this in late July

https://www.democraticunderground.com/105912829

I'm not happy about this. Seems like an ego move.

[question everything]

16. I know. And he keeps digging himself deeper and deeper

[geardaddy]

17. Yep.

I half expect him to go "No Labels" ugh.