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Quixote1818

(30,410 posts)
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 10:40 PM Jul 2023

Here is something most New Mexican residents don't know about the Manhattan Project

Thought this was a good time to post this with the new Oppenheim movie coming out on the 21st of July.

By Larry Bleiberg
29th January 2020
Most visitors will walk past 109 E Palace in Santa Fe, New Mexico, and have no idea that they are passing the site that once served as Robert Oppenheimer’s office.


In the courtyard of a gift shop decorated with colorful ceramic frogs and dragonflies, it’s easy to overlook the historic marker.

Perhaps that’s fitting for a secret site.

In the early 1940s, the world’s top scientists and their families trudged through this patio, bedraggled from a cross-country train trip. Most didn’t know where they were headed. All they had were classified orders to report to the address "109 East Palace, Santa Fe, New Mexico”. When they opened the wrought iron gate, they entered what the National Historical Landmark plaque calls a “portal to their secret mission”, which was to build the atomic bomb.

“They came in through the courtyard,” said Marianne Kapoun, who with her husband owns The Rainbow Man gift shop, which occupies the formerly classified facility. Visitors now enter the shop through a front door; the historical entrance where scientists like Enrico Fermi and Richard Feynman once passed, is blocked, and the walkway cluttered with dangling ceramic chillies and hand-painted jack-o-lantern gourds.

The newcomers, which included a contingent of British scientists, were issued security passes and loaded from the facility onto a bus or a Jeep for the last leg of their journey. Their destination lay 35 miles away, up tortuous, unpaved mountain roads, in the hidden settlement of Los Alamos. And what they eventually accomplished, the plaque says, was “one of the greatest scientific achievements in human history”.

But few modern visitors to Santa Fe, a Spanish colonial city known for its adobe buildings and art galleries, realise they’re crossing paths with Nobel laureates – and a nest of spies.

During World War Two, the small city was on the frontlines of the race to build the atomic bomb. Over a period of 27 months, the US Army built the secret Los Alamos research laboratory in the Jemez Mountains and designed an unimaginably powerful weapon that eventually destroyed two Japanese cities, effectively ending the war and ushering in the atomic age.

More: https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200128-an-atomic-marker-hidden-in-plain-sight#:~:text=Most%20didn't%20know%20where,to%20build%20the%20atomic%20bomb.

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Here is something most New Mexican residents don't know about the Manhattan Project (Original Post) Quixote1818 Jul 2023 OP
109 East Palace: Robert Oppenheimer and the Secret City of Los Alamos by Jennet Conant BadgerMom Jul 2023 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Abolishinist Jul 2023 #2
I wish I had known this a month ago! Abolishinist Jul 2023 #4
Gee, we lived in NM for 22 years before involuntarily leaving and I Wonder Why Jul 2023 #3
Great book by Eleanor Jette - wife of one of the scientists womanofthehills Oct 2023 #5

BadgerMom

(2,960 posts)
1. 109 East Palace: Robert Oppenheimer and the Secret City of Los Alamos by Jennet Conant
Sun Jul 9, 2023, 11:03 PM
Jul 2023

I recommend this book. I read it when my daughter moved to Santa Fe, before my husband and I did. The book, non-fiction, tells the story of the Los Alamos lab’s establishment, development and the history of the Manhattan Project. It’s not a heavy read. I found it fascinating.


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Abolishinist

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4. I wish I had known this a month ago!
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 01:15 PM
Jul 2023

We had a wonderful time in Santa Fe, experiencing great dining, galleries, museums, walking to most places.

East Palace rang a bell, so I looked it up and we had a nice lunch, outdoors, at La Casa Sena, which is right next door. We stayed at the La Fonda, which is only a block or so from there.

You're living in a great place!

Wonder Why

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3. Gee, we lived in NM for 22 years before involuntarily leaving and I
Mon Jul 10, 2023, 09:27 AM
Jul 2023

never realized that fact.

NM should have an Atomic Bomb trail to tell the story of what happened. We visited Trinity Site with the kids back in the '80s and we were all sobered by the experience. The kids still remember it vividly to this day as we do.

We've also been to Los Alamos (with them back then), once by myself in the '70s on a classified project to talk to their people, and by ourselves a couple of times since then.

We live in the East but our hearts were left in NM.

womanofthehills

(9,311 posts)
5. Great book by Eleanor Jette - wife of one of the scientists
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 10:35 PM
Oct 2023

“Inside Box 2663” - written by a wife of one of the scientists - Eric Jette. It was published by the Los Alamos Historical Society in 1977. Her husband didn’t even tell her where they were going - it was so secretive. She wrote of arriving in Santa Fe with her husband and 10 yr old son and being taken to the lab. Tells the stories of the wives.

I actually live 50 miles north of the Trinity site and the missile range. Often hear explosions coming from there. At the range, they even have a desert ship to shoot missiles from. There is a lot going on down there.

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