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Related: About this forum'Iconic' blue British passport to return after Brexit
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42443253Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)Brexit will continue to be an unfolding disaster for the Brits.
Vlad Putin has been astonishingly effective at tearing apart the US and England.
RelativelyJones
(898 posts)Denzil_DC
(8,012 posts)DetlefK
(16,482 posts)What exactly can the UK do after Brexit that they couldn't do while member of the EU?
They can protect their borders? They could before: The UK was not part of the Schengen open-borders-agreement.
They can make their own diplomatic decisions? They could before.
Please don't fall for that "Down with the EU"-crap russian internet-trolls are peddling.
RelativelyJones
(898 posts)How do you explain that? It can't be simply that they were all trolled into doing it.
LeftishBrit
(41,307 posts)Few of us here had that much knowledge about the EU; and the media is relentlessly anti.
In the past, I fell for some of it myself. The Blair-Bush collaboration, and the far more reasonable views of most EU countries about Iraq, turned me into a Remainer long before the referendum; and I have learned a lot more since about all the benefits that the EU has had for the economy.
DetlefK
(16,482 posts)They never liked being part of a bigger power-bloc.
RelativelyJones
(898 posts)Sometimes favoring the French, sometimes the German states, or others, depending on who was weaker.
LeftishBrit
(41,307 posts)Brexit could make us poorer and more dependent on Trump.
Personally I don't care what colour my passport is, so long as it's recognized wherever I need to go.
Denzil_DC
(8,012 posts)Ever feel like you've been cheated?
muriel_volestrangler
(102,646 posts)On a British forum, they're delirious - "important victory", "battle" ,"war", "one in the eye for Juncker and his unelected cronies", "potent symbol" ... it takes so little to please their parochial outlook. They really seem to think they'll be able to wave around a passport and, thanks to the blue colour, they'll get some form of special treatment they've been denied since 1988.
T_i_B
(14,805 posts)We'll get a much much worse time of things when we travel abroad, and very likely at greater cost to boot.
This is pure gesture politics from the government.
Denzil_DC
(8,012 posts)Theresa May described the decision to revert to the iconic colour as an expression of our independence and sovereignty away from the EU.
But the Home Office confirmed that the UK voluntarily adopted common passport criteria from the European Economic Community (EEC) and was not obliged to keep it.
The guidance states that the cover of member states passports should be burgundy red and stipulated features including the number of pages and information that must be included.
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A Government source told The Independent the agreement was not legally binding and that redesigns have been considered around every five years.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/blue-passports-brexit-colour-change-leave-eu-withdrawal-european-union-countries-travel-a8124526.html