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Related: About this forumLet Trump Handle Brexit: Explosive Leak Reveals Johnson's Private Views About Foreign Policy
Let Trump Handle Brexit: An Explosive Leaked Recording Reveals Boris Johnsons Private Views About Britains Foreign Policy
I am increasingly admiring of Donald Trump. I have become more and more convinced that there is method in his madness.
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BuzzFeed News has obtained an audio recording of a closed-door gathering at the Institute of Directors in London, where Johnson treated about 20 Tories to an extraordinarily unguarded and wide-ranging assessment of the UKs foreign policy strategy and his private thoughts about Brexit, Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.
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Speaking about Brexit, Johnson gave a remarkably candid rundown of the arguments that have bitterly divided Mays cabinet.
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Johnson insisted he wont compromise on the final terms of Britains future economic relationship, but said the Brexiteers were at risk of getting a deal far worse than theyd hoped for. The government is so terrified of short-term economic disruption that its at risk of throwing away the opportunities presented by Brexit. He ridiculed the concerns about disruption at the borders as pure millennium bug stuff and said its beyond belief that the Northern Ireland border has become an obstacle in the negotiations.
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He said the debate about solutions to the Northern Irish border had been blown completely out of proportion. Its so small and there are so few firms that actually use that border regularly, its just beyond belief that were allowing the tail to wag the dog in this way. Were allowing the whole of our agenda to be dictated by this folly.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexspence/boris-johnson-trump-brexit-leaked-recording
More at the link, including audio excerpts.
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Let Trump Handle Brexit: Explosive Leak Reveals Johnson's Private Views About Foreign Policy (Original Post)
Denzil_DC
Jun 2018
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riverbendviewgal
(4,324 posts)1. Boris johnson was born in NYC
Surprise.
Girard442
(6,419 posts)2. The secret to traversing an ice field on a moonless night...
...is to drive hard forward. True, there might be some breakage and chaos, but you might actually get somewhere.
Or not.
Denzil_DC
(8,012 posts)3. I'll never apologize for reminding people who was behind the UK media's long-running anti-EU frenzy:
The road to Brexit was paved with Boris Johnsons Euromyths
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For many in EU circles the former London mayors reputation for mendacity pre-dates the referendum campaign. Nobody has forgotten his activities as a journalist in Brussels, where he was correspondent for the Daily Telegraph between 1989 and 1994. The French tend to mythologise Anglo-Saxon journalism as the pinnacle of ethics and rigour, but Johnson was the incarnation of the gutter-press dictum: never let the facts get in the way of a good story. Indeed, this is what a grinning Johnson often remarked to his foreign counterparts when they protested about his exaggerated stories.
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He had grasped the fact that some of his compatriots had a taste for conspiracy theories, and he could provide them with a political scapegoat that was incapable of defending itself. The EU, unlike its member states, lacks an unquestionable political authority, so any reaction from the Brussels commission could immediately be dismissed as interference in the internal affairs of the nation state. Attempts to rebut the myths could be easily batted away as a case of no smoke without fire.
Even worse, Johnson created a school of EU reporting: the entire British press, to varying degrees, began peddling Euromyths, fuelling the kind of Europhobia that no UK politician dared to stand up to, and which ultimately has now led to Brexit.
Johnson as politician applied similar methods: so despite a previous ambiguity about the wisdom of Britain leaving the EU, he became head of the leave campaign, never hesitating to lie or insult Britains EU partners if it furthered the cause. And, just as when he was a journalist, he had no problem admitting his own lies the day after the referendum victory.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/15/brexit-boris-johnson-euromyths-telegraph-brussels
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For many in EU circles the former London mayors reputation for mendacity pre-dates the referendum campaign. Nobody has forgotten his activities as a journalist in Brussels, where he was correspondent for the Daily Telegraph between 1989 and 1994. The French tend to mythologise Anglo-Saxon journalism as the pinnacle of ethics and rigour, but Johnson was the incarnation of the gutter-press dictum: never let the facts get in the way of a good story. Indeed, this is what a grinning Johnson often remarked to his foreign counterparts when they protested about his exaggerated stories.
...
He had grasped the fact that some of his compatriots had a taste for conspiracy theories, and he could provide them with a political scapegoat that was incapable of defending itself. The EU, unlike its member states, lacks an unquestionable political authority, so any reaction from the Brussels commission could immediately be dismissed as interference in the internal affairs of the nation state. Attempts to rebut the myths could be easily batted away as a case of no smoke without fire.
Even worse, Johnson created a school of EU reporting: the entire British press, to varying degrees, began peddling Euromyths, fuelling the kind of Europhobia that no UK politician dared to stand up to, and which ultimately has now led to Brexit.
Johnson as politician applied similar methods: so despite a previous ambiguity about the wisdom of Britain leaving the EU, he became head of the leave campaign, never hesitating to lie or insult Britains EU partners if it furthered the cause. And, just as when he was a journalist, he had no problem admitting his own lies the day after the referendum victory.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/15/brexit-boris-johnson-euromyths-telegraph-brussels
2naSalit
(93,153 posts)4. And now that
his fantasy is not going as intended...
T_i_B
(14,805 posts)5. The first rule of Brexshitters.......
......is that they never ever take responsibility for their own f**k ups. No matter how obvious it is that they are making a total pigs ear of everything.
The movement to leave the EU can be quite cultish at times, and the attempts by Leave supporters to blame anything and everything but themselves are only getting ever more desperate over time.