The precious Brexit deal

[muriel_volestrangler]

Nassty Brexitsers ....

[beachbum bob]

1. sounds like its imploding is that right?

[muriel_volestrangler]

2. May's control over it certainly seems to be

see eg https://www.democraticunderground.com/108815004

or the Guardian's live politics blog: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/dec/10/brexit-deal-vote-latest-theresa-may-ecj-government-says-ecj-ruling-irrelevant-because-uk-leaving-eu-anyway-politics-live

[beachbum bob]

3. not much is covered in US on this I read bits and pieces but it seemd the Brits want a revote?

since they now see the negative impact it will have on all aspcts of their lives

[muriel_volestrangler]

4. There's no majority for any single course of action, among voters or MPs

which is the big problem. May's deal will get voted down both by hardline leavers who don't like the 'backstop' arrangement designed to prevent a hard customs border with Ireland, and by remainers, and the Labour leadership who have said they will exit the EU, but go for a customs union and single market deal which will involve some form of free movement of labour.

No-one can decide if a new referendum would help; if there was one, should it have just 2 options (in which case, which 2), or 3, with some form of 2nd preference voting.

It's a mess.

[beachbum bob]

5. of course, the ironic thing some of source for the push for Brexit is the same source to push trump

in the US. The same forces and the common goal was pretty much the destruction of our alliances from trade level to military level to the benefit of who?

We are entering a most dangerous moment in history that pales the cold war era.

[mitch96]

6. Giving their love of Britain

I would not be surprised if the Russians were behind it...
My other question would be, what if Northern Ireland and The Republic of Ireland joined to be a United country? Still in the EU, no hard borders but distinctly different.. Would that work?
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[muriel_volestrangler]

7. No, that wouldn't work

The unionists (ie for keeping NI part of the UK) are still a majority, and adamant that it will remain that way. They'd literally start a civil war if they were forced to join the Republic - the "loyalist" terrorists were very violent, and that was when their side was in charge.

[mitch96]

8. Interesting take from the Irish Times...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/some-unionists-are-thinking-the-unthinkable-about-living-in-a-united-ireland-1.3725241

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