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AStern

(138 posts)
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 05:31 PM Mar 23

Brian Eno perfectly explains selfishness of the super rich

'If they want to leave the UK, then... off'
This week we met the musician and record producer Brian Eno who told us that super rich people should be happy to pay a bit more tax to make sure many, many more people aren't struggling in poverty. He dismisses the idea that some might leave the country if the government brought in a wealth tax and said most would not even notice it. Mean rich people think more about numbers on a bank balance rather than how they could use it, he suggests.
The Roxy Music co-founder is part of the Patriotic Millionaires group – high profile rich people in support of an extra super tax rich..
Do you agree?

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Brian Eno perfectly explains selfishness of the super rich (Original Post) AStern Mar 23 OP
Love his music and his position on wealth tax... An Ending (Ascent) is one of his best... bsiebs Mar 23 #1
I put it this way: Auggie Mar 23 #2
Oh, that last part is something they've forgotten. ChazInAz Mar 23 #3
Henry Ford was sued for paying his workers too much Farmer-Rick Mar 23 #5
And Ford was no saint. soldierant Mar 23 #6
He was also rabidly antisemitic. MLWR Mar 23 #7
He was indeed. And I expect equally bigoted on skin tone. soldierant Mar 23 #14
Not really management OrangeJoe Mar 23 #10
Well, there are different levels of management. soldierant Mar 23 #15
The "classic" Henry Ford story is only part of the story....... DENVERPOPS Mar 23 #9
What do they call those things that drain you for nothing but their own benefit? Grokenstein Mar 23 #4
Or Vampires!!! slightlv Mar 24 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 23 #8
Warren Buffet DENVERPOPS Mar 23 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 23 #12
Sorry DENVERPOPS Mar 23 #13
It is a form of hoarding. tblue37 Mar 24 #20
I have been around DENVERPOPS Mar 24 #21
Yikes. What did I miss? AStern Mar 23 #18
So what Brian Eno has MILLIONS of Dollars?! It's what Cha Mar 23 #16
Still a hero of mine. They_Live Mar 23 #17
Eno is truly a Renaissance Man bif Yesterday #22

Auggie

(32,166 posts)
2. I put it this way:
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 07:07 PM
Mar 23

Last edited Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:41 PM - Edit history (1)

The rich got rich on the backs of the poor.

Pay it forward. It’s morally right, assholes.

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Oh, and BTW ... Henry Ford paid his workers more so they could afford to buy the very automobiles they were building.

Get it?

ChazInAz

(2,871 posts)
3. Oh, that last part is something they've forgotten.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 07:34 PM
Mar 23

I used to work in a major department store in Tucson. Even with their laughable "employee discount", employees couldn't afford to shop there.

Farmer-Rick

(11,708 posts)
5. Henry Ford was sued for paying his workers too much
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 07:55 PM
Mar 23

Ford lost the case and he had to go to back to paying his employees the least amount he could get away with.

"Ford Motor Co. Dodge v. Ford Motor Co., 204 Mich 459; 170 NW 668 (1919), is a case in which the Michigan Supreme Court held that Henry Ford had to operate the Ford Motor Company in the interests of its shareholders, rather than in a manner for the benefit of his employees or customers."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co.#:~:text=Ford%20Motor%20Co.,-Article&text=Article-,Dodge%20v.,of%20his%20employees%20or%20customers.

US Capitalism is the cause for most of the inequality in the country and the destruction of democracy.

soldierant

(8,299 posts)
6. And Ford was no saint.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 07:55 PM
Mar 23

He was a practical businessman who was smart enough to make the observations which led him to adopt that policy.

Those in management who don't get it are either too lazy to pay attention to reality, or too impressed with their own BS for it to occur to them that they might be wrong, or just dumb as rocks (and some are all three.)

OrangeJoe

(482 posts)
10. Not really management
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:26 PM
Mar 23

Rather than point the finger at management I blame the big shareholders, the hedge funds, banks and venture capitalists. Most in management are just victims who are paid slightly more.

soldierant

(8,299 posts)
15. Well, there are different levels of management.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:58 PM
Mar 23

I was thinking of the highest of the high. If owners are telling CEOs what to do, they are managing them. Baddly, but they are.

DENVERPOPS

(11,572 posts)
9. The "classic" Henry Ford story is only part of the story.......
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:25 PM
Mar 23

evidently the stockholders came after him because the job he was hired to do was purely to create maximum stock holder value and not reward the workers any more than absolutely necessary, like the other car manufacturers at that time were doing....

Not at all unlike it is today.......

Grokenstein

(5,941 posts)
4. What do they call those things that drain you for nothing but their own benefit?
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 07:41 PM
Mar 23

..Oh, that's right!

PARASITES.

Response to AStern (Original post)

DENVERPOPS

(11,572 posts)
11. Warren Buffet
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:27 PM
Mar 23

with 160? Billion has openly stated that his housekeeper pays more in taxes than he does.

There are countless Corporations, with Billions in Revenue, that pay absolutely ZERO in taxes, and some that actually get money from the Feds........

Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #11)

DENVERPOPS

(11,572 posts)
13. Sorry
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:48 PM
Mar 23

but I think that is indirectly the point with all of them........At what point is enough, enough?

DENVERPOPS

(11,572 posts)
21. I have been around
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 04:18 PM
Mar 24

many wealthy, and a few UBER wealthy, and I feel them never feeling enough is enough, comes from their very deep insecurities.

Most of them have been rich most of their lives, if not just their adult lives due to an inheritance or as a trust fund kid who grew up with the riches.

They have absolutely no way of coping with out their money..............If they were to lose their money, deep down inside they know they would be screwed with out it. They have never had to face adversity, never been denied anything they wanted, never had a job, etc etc etc. They are soooo afraid of losing it, that they must be obsessed with collecting more and more, at any cost.

Obviously, it doesn't apply to all the UBER rich, but many I have been around.

Many who are just obsessed with money, also came from poor backgrounds, and will also make their entire focus of life with making money.........

Cha

(309,098 posts)
16. So what Brian Eno has MILLIONS of Dollars?! It's what
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 09:18 PM
Mar 23

they do with their money that counts.

Not like Mump with their fucking Billions that are Trying to Destroy America & the Planet.

bif

(25,012 posts)
22. Eno is truly a Renaissance Man
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 01:33 PM
Yesterday

Such a genius. I've loved his music for ever. "Music for Airports" is still one of my favorite pieces of music.

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