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sprinkleeninow

(20,560 posts)
Fri Jun 16, 2023, 12:46 PM Jun 2023

Yahoo Finance: Fed's Barkin willing to raise rates if inflation doesn't fall soon

Excerpt: "Barkin said he realizes that raising rates higher creates the risk of a more significant slowdown. But he also wants to avoid the experience of the 1970s, when the Fed backed off rate hikes too soon only to see inflation ignite again. That pushed the Fed to jack up rates higher."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/feds-barkin-willing-to-raise-rates-if-inflation-doesnt-fall-soon-140137938.html
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bucolic_frolic

(47,342 posts)
1. People don't want to believe it but that is the choice
Fri Jun 16, 2023, 01:05 PM
Jun 2023

Rates will be 10% before inflation is defeated.

BootinUp

(49,169 posts)
2. This is nothing like the 70's
Fri Jun 16, 2023, 01:41 PM
Jun 2023

Inflation has been falling. like a rock relatively speaking. Someone needs to remove head from arse.

progree

(11,463 posts)
4. Core inflation is stuck at near 5%, more than 2X the Fed target
Sat Jun 17, 2023, 04:22 AM
Jun 2023


Rolling 3 month averages thru May, latest 7 values (annualized)
CPI: . . . . 4.5% 3.3% 3.5% 4.1% 3.8% 3.2% 2.2%
Core CPI: 5.0% 4.3% 4.6% 5.2% 5.1% 5.1% 5.0%

It looks like the Core CPI has flatlined for several months. (The Fed uses the Core measures for projecting future inflation because energy prices (which are in the regular CPI but not the core CPI) swing so widely from month to month).

Yes, yes, the regular CPI looks nice right now, but it bounces up and down with energy prices. So it can turn into the hotter measure rather quickly when energy prices again bounce back upwards.

More: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143087481#post2

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The core PCE is much the same picture as the core CPI --
https://www.democraticunderground.com/111695982

Core PCE - 3 month rolling average and 6 month rolling average



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Both core measures (core CPI and core PCE) look stubbornly stuck at more than double the Fed's 2% target. In case people who just look at the year-over-year (12 months) numbers are wondering why the Fed is being such a meanie. Actually, the Fed has been kind of soft at the last 4 meetings because of the banking situation.

Even at a "modest" 5% inflation rate, the purchasing power of the dollar is cut in half in just over 14 years, and into a quarter in just over 28. Wages have not been keeping up, which is typical of high inflation periods. And the purchasing power of nest eggs are being eviscerated.

Considered the most reliable gauge of wages and salaries:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143067288#post4

So real wages and salaries have finally turned up, slightly, in the last 2 quarters.

But the last reading is still 3.7% below the peak, and 3.4% below the Q1.2021 value.

The Fed has had a 2% inflation target for many decades. It's not some secret or something they suddenly came up with. So why some people are mad that they are actually striving towards that goal -- from where we are at now which is about 5% inflation (more than double that target) -- is completely and totally beyond me. And invoking all kinds of right-wing conspiracy theories about it. Sigh

If it was a Republican administration fighting inflation, and the Fed did just three milqeutoast quarter point interest raises and a pause over the past 6 months when inflation was more than double their long- long-anounced target, people would be screaming about how they were going easy on the repuke administraton and only going through the motions (the last more-than-quarter-point rate hike was December 14 )

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The next PCE report (thru May) will be released June 30.

sprinkleeninow

(20,560 posts)
5. I can do some of my barnyard imitations concerning my sentiments re: the Feds?
Sat Jun 17, 2023, 05:30 AM
Jun 2023

Plock! Plock!
Oink! Oink!
Moooo!
Hee-haw!
Slurp! Slurp! [Goats drinking water.]

I appreciate your extensive expertise. Imma not good with numbers mainly. In most situations. I go by audio/visual more better. 🫡

roamer65

(37,222 posts)
6. The Fed is going to overshoot and pop the housing bubble.
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 07:52 PM
Jun 2023

Just like 2007-2008.

Get your debts paid down, folks. BOHICA.

sprinkleeninow

(20,560 posts)
8. Read earlier where one Fed (mb Delaware?) says they should leave the rate be
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 09:25 PM
Jun 2023
to the end of '23, no hikes.

Perhaps this thinking could prevail.

roamer65

(37,222 posts)
9. Knowing the Fed, I doubt they will.
Wed Jun 21, 2023, 10:13 PM
Jun 2023

I think at least 2, maybe 3, more .25 pt hikes coupled with their shrinking of the money supply will be what definitely bursts the bubble.

Home prices are already dropping significantly. The bubble may have popped already, but we just don’t quite notice it yet.

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