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mahatmakanejeeves

(61,298 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 08:53 AM Monday

A Kid Made $50,000 Dumping Crypto He'd Created. Then Came the Backlash

Joel Khalili Business Dec 6, 2024 5:00 AM

A Kid Made $50,000 Dumping Crypto He’d Created. Then Came the Backlash

In less than 10 minutes, a US teen made a small fortune selling off a memecoin he’d made on a lark. Traders, feeling swindled, sought revenge.

On the evening of November 19, art adviser Adam Biesk was finishing work at his California home when he overheard a conversation between his wife and son, who had just come downstairs. The son, a kid in his early teens, was saying he had made a ton of money on a cryptocurrency that he himself had created. ... Initially, Biesk ignored it. He knew that his son played around with crypto, but to have turned a small fortune before bedtime was too far-fetched. “We didn’t really believe it,” says Biesk. But when the phone started to ring off the hook and his wife was flooded with angry messages on Instagram, Biesk realized that his son was telling the truth—if not quite the full story.

Earlier that evening, at 7:48 pm PT, Biesk’s son had released into the wild 1 billion units of a new crypto coin, which he named Gen Z Quant. Simultaneously, he spent about $350 to purchase 51 million tokens, about 5 percent of the total supply, for himself. ... Then he started to livestream himself on Pump.Fun, the website he had used to launch the coin. As people tuned in to see what he was doing, they started to buy into Gen Z Quant, leading the price to pitch sharply upwards.

By 7:56 pm PT, a whirlwind eight minutes later, Biesk's son’s tokens were worth almost $30,000—and he cashed out. “No way. Holy fuck! Holy fuck!” he said, flipping two middle fingers to the webcam, with tongue sticking out of his mouth. “Holy fuck! Thanks for the twenty bandos.” After he dumped the tokens, the price of the coin plummeted, so large was his single trade. ... To the normie ear, all this might sound impossible. But in the realm of memecoins, a type of cryptocurrency with no purpose or utility beyond financial speculation, it’s relatively routine. Although many people lose money, a few have been known to make a lot—and fast.

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A Kid Made $50,000 Dumping Crypto He'd Created. Then Came the Backlash (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Monday OP
And this currency is what they want to tie to our social security? Baitball Blogger Monday #1
Yes, your new payment is 1.7 Gen Z Quant monthly bucolic_frolic Monday #2
Careful. I wrote a post yesterday about that and it was deleted. erronis Monday #12
The whole 'Social Security will be paid in crypto' thing is ridiculous. Same for paying off the national debt with it. Celerity Monday #14
If a kid with no resources can do this, think what a narcistic billionaire could do. Midnight Writer Monday #3
Its the bigger idiot theory.... getagrip_already Monday #5
Good for him. I don't trust the bit coiners as far as I can spit. If they can get away with it, he should get away ... marble falls Monday #4
kid is a loser and scumbag (read also predator) stopdiggin Monday #15
Just hope he added all the right legal disclaimers.... getagrip_already Monday #6
key phrase "The "overwhelming majority" of new crypto tokens entering the market are scams of one form or another..." cynical_idealist Monday #7
Its definitely time..... 70sEraVet Monday #8
The big money return in crypto is::: keithbvadu2 Monday #9
College business schools are probably already recruiting him - TBF Monday #10
Yet another example of how far we have to go to remove the programming. OldBaldy1701E Monday #11
Crypto - the quintessential example of the Greater Fool Theory. NoMoreRepugs Monday #13
Crypto is perfect for scammer, gamblers, or those who have no faith in government issued currencies because Probatim Monday #16
Did he learn his lesson from all this?... OH, YEAH! keithbvadu2 Monday #17
Post removed Post removed Tuesday #18

bucolic_frolic

(47,309 posts)
2. Yes, your new payment is 1.7 Gen Z Quant monthly
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 09:19 AM
Monday

See your bank for approved conversion rules to $US. Remember to use a secure password.

erronis

(16,987 posts)
12. Careful. I wrote a post yesterday about that and it was deleted.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:20 AM
Monday
Dear erronis,

One of your posts has been removed:

Are you ready to have your Social Security payments in crypto-currencies?

It was judged to have broken this forum rule:

No kooky, extremist, or hate content

Don't worry -- other than the removal, there are rarely repercussions for a single rule violation (if we need to talk to you about this rule violation, we'll contact you again). We're sending you this notice simply to let you know that the removal occurred, and give you the opportunity to appeal if you believe the post did not break the rule.


I did get quite a few Recs and some interesting replies but it was ruled out-of-bounds.

Celerity

(46,541 posts)
14. The whole 'Social Security will be paid in crypto' thing is ridiculous. Same for paying off the national debt with it.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:46 AM
Monday

If the US government did actually obtain the crypto bros' target of 1 million bitcopin (BTC), and even IF BTC increased TEN-FOLD IN value, to one million USD per BTC, that yields only 1 trillion usd, which is fuckall compared to what SS payouts would be. In 2024 alone, the Social Security Administration will pay out $1.51 trillion combined between all its obligations.

Not only that, but the US could never sell the 1 million bitcoin without crushing the price (as that 1 million BTC is around 7 to 10 per cent of all actually available bitcoins that will ever exist and can actually be redeemed, as out of the 21 million BTC that can ever exist, 20 million have already been mined and between 4 or 5 on up to almost 8 million are already lost forever via lost wallets, damaged hardware, lost private keys, etc etc).

It is simply impossible to pay Social Security with BTC, same as it is impossible to pay off the US national debt with it.

It is all fantasyland silliness.

Midnight Writer

(23,062 posts)
3. If a kid with no resources can do this, think what a narcistic billionaire could do.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 09:25 AM
Monday

Cryptocurrency is an online computer game, and its only value is the faith of its investors.

getagrip_already

(17,498 posts)
5. Its the bigger idiot theory....
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 09:57 AM
Monday

The theory states that as long as there is a bigger idiot than you to buy back your shares, you will not lose your shirt and may make a small gain.

marble falls

(62,394 posts)
4. Good for him. I don't trust the bit coiners as far as I can spit. If they can get away with it, he should get away ...
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 09:55 AM
Monday

... it, too. Screw US law enforcement who seem interested in only low hanging fruit.

stopdiggin

(12,936 posts)
15. kid is a loser and scumbag (read also predator)
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:47 AM
Monday

the bigger problem here, by far - is in the fact that we are normalizing at least two things here. 1) the 'crypto' currency carnival - and 2) the grifters and scam artists that readily inhabit ... (as per Bankman-Fried and this 18 year old 'misguided youth' and wannabe con)

neither has anything of value to offer our society.

getagrip_already

(17,498 posts)
6. Just hope he added all the right legal disclaimers....
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 10:00 AM
Monday

About trading being for entertainment purposes only, blah, blah.

Chat gpt probably set up the coinop for him, and could have added the disclaimers.

cynical_idealist

(455 posts)
7. key phrase "The "overwhelming majority" of new crypto tokens entering the market are scams of one form or another..."
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 10:05 AM
Monday

from article

70sEraVet

(4,196 posts)
8. Its definitely time.....
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 10:10 AM
Monday

for an upgrade to our legal system.
You can't legally print money in your basement, but you can fabricate money on your computer? Kind of like creating shares of stock in a company, except that there is no company represented? How can this be legal?

keithbvadu2

(40,321 posts)
9. The big money return in crypto is:::
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 10:25 AM
Monday

The big money return in crypto is:::

1. Starting it, hyping it, selling it, and getting out, leaving the
suckers holding the bag.
2. Handling/storing it for others.
...a. Not your own money/crypto. Someone else's money/crypto.
...b. Lots of fraud/money manipulation/theft/lack of regulation.
3. Backed by trust/faith/great promises/optimism... but no
real assets.
4. It can literally disappear and good luck with lawsuits.
------------------
A few have profited by 'investing' but not the majority.

BTW... You're buying it with your 'real' money.
Will they let you buy it with your old broken crypto?

TBF

(34,550 posts)
10. College business schools are probably already recruiting him -
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:01 AM
Monday

although it looks like he will handle his future just fine on his own.

OldBaldy1701E

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11. Yet another example of how far we have to go to remove the programming.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:09 AM
Monday

We were taught for decades that the rich know best, and that the television (computers and phones nowadays) never lied. They spent trillions and trillions convincing us of this. It worked. Now, we have to deprogram those who cannot stop being Pavlovian when it comes to these and many other soundbites that have been burned into our brains until we believe it to be true and are willing to kill ourselves and everything around us to comply. (Of course, our delusional nature is going to kill us long before anything else will. I stand by this statement. It already got that orange gibbon re-elected when his fifteen minutes should have been LONG gone.)

Remember, elephants are not afraid of mice.

Probatim

(3,035 posts)
16. Crypto is perfect for scammer, gamblers, or those who have no faith in government issued currencies because
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:50 AM
Monday

they have no understanding of how government functions.

However, they'll turn over their fortunes to those who are operating algorithms and social media scams - of which they have no understanding of how it works. But it ain't the gubmint!

keithbvadu2

(40,321 posts)
17. Did he learn his lesson from all this?... OH, YEAH!
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 12:01 PM
Monday

(the last paragraph)

On December 1, after a two-week hiatus, Biesk’s son returned to Pump.Fun to launch five new memecoins, apparently undeterred by the abuse. Disregarding the warnings built into the very names of some of the new coins—one was named test and another dontbuy—people bought in. Biesk’s son made another $5,000.

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