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Eugene

(62,736 posts)
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 12:27 PM Dec 3

Afghan women 'banned from midwife courses' in latest blow to rights

Source: BBC

Afghan women 'banned from midwife courses' in latest blow to rights

3 December 2024

Flora Drury and Turpekai Gharanai
BBC News

Women training as midwives and nurses in Afghanistan have told the BBC they were ordered not to return to classes in the morning - effectively closing off their last route to further education in the country.

Five separate institutions across Afghanistan have also confirmed to the BBC that the Taliban had instructed them to close until further notice, with videos shared online showing students crying at the news.

The BBC has yet to confirm the order officially with the Taliban government's health ministry.

However, the closure appears to be in line with the group's wider policy on female education, which has seen teenage girls unable to access secondary and higher education since August 2021.

-snip-

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy3l1035nlo


Women leaving the education colleges on Tuesday (handout)

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Easterncedar

(3,617 posts)
1. It's The Screwfly Solution
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 12:42 PM
Dec 3

If they kill off the women, it brings on the end times. They are mad

VMA131Marine

(4,676 posts)
5. If all the women of child-bearing age just left Afghanistan that would solve the problem in a couple of generations.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 12:52 PM
Dec 3

Response to VMA131Marine (Reply #5)

Irish_Dem

(58,840 posts)
10. Marine's comment was a legitimate satirical one.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 01:22 PM
Dec 3

It was not meant as a practical piece of advice.

Of course the entire Afghan population of women cannot simply up and leave.

The Afghan males obviously hate and loathe women.
And punish and control them to the nth degree.
Torture them and place them under house arrest.
Blame women for all their own failures as human beings.

Marine is pointing out that if all the Afghan women left, the men's problems would be gone.

Irish_Dem

(58,840 posts)
13. You don't have to delete.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 01:29 PM
Dec 3

Your comments are also legitimate ones if Marine's comment was taken literally.

I myself never use the sarcasm thingy because I would wear it out and Earl G would
have to start charging me per use.

Shipwack

(2,333 posts)
6. I don't think Muslims believe in "End Times" theology.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 12:55 PM
Dec 3

At least, not in the cult-like way some Evangelicals here do.

CrispyQ

(38,454 posts)
7. We're a species currently at war with itself.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 01:07 PM
Dec 3

Seems like it started when humans discovered men's part in reproduction. Men wanted to control their offspring & therefore needed to control the women they were sleeping with. Pregnancy has always been our biggest disadvantage in the sex wars, & men have been glad to use it against us, to control us. Thanks to reliable birth control & credit, women are finally rebelling on a scale a lot of men are having difficulty with. There was a FB post right after the election of an image of an artificial womb with the text below, "Once we get these working we won't need you bitches." The pure hatred toward women as a class shocked me even more than other more violent memes.

Irish_Dem

(58,840 posts)
11. So men want a society with no women, because their hatred runs deep.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 01:26 PM
Dec 3

This is what Afghanistan has done in effect, women are relegated to their home under
house arrest.

Like the old days. Women stayed home, had babies, did all the child care and house work and
cooking.

This is what men want again it sounds like.

Reliable brith control gave women a chance to become educated, get jobs, earn money.
The men hate it apparently.

CrispyQ

(38,454 posts)
14. Oh yes, birth control was a game changer. Abortion, too.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 01:45 PM
Dec 3

Take away a woman's control over her reproductive process & you've taken away her control over her life.

Irish_Dem

(58,840 posts)
15. Exactly. We didn't quite realize it at the time when reliable birth control became available.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 02:18 PM
Dec 3

We knew it was some sort of revolution, but not the full impact down the road.

That women would eventually be allowed to be educated in all the professions,
earn good money, gain respect, get good jobs, get promoted, etc.

Women had never before had full equality so we could not quite wrap our heads around it.
I am sure men never thought it would happen either.

But it has happened and many men do not like it one bit.

Mister Ed

(6,366 posts)
3. At home and abroad, the bad guys in the Global War On Women continue their juggernaut.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 12:48 PM
Dec 3

Somewhere, somehow, this has to be turned around.

VMA131Marine

(4,676 posts)
4. Maternal mortality rate in Afghanistan is 620/100,000 live births.
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 12:51 PM
Dec 3

The global average is about 150 per 100,000
The EU average is 6 per 100,000
The U.S. average is 21.1 but there is a lot of disparity
No prizes for guessing which states are the worst.
Leading the way is Louisiana at 58.1/100,000 - that’s third world level maternal mortality
Then there’s Georgia at 48.4/100,000

The best state is California with a maternal mortality rate of 4/100,000; that’s the only state better than the EU average.
Massachusetts and Nevada follow at 8.4
Next is Connecticut at 10.5

One thing that’s not clear from these numbers is how much maternal age factors in. Women are waiting longer on average to have children which likely increases the incidence of complications in childbirth.

Irish_Dem

(58,840 posts)
8. So who will deliver babies and provide health care to women?
Tue Dec 3, 2024, 01:14 PM
Dec 3

I guess that doesn't matter to the men in Afghanistan.

Like the people in the US don't care about women who are dying blocked from routine care which could save their lives.

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