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cliffside

(1,855 posts)
Wed Jun 17, 2026, 10:42 PM Jun 17

Israel Set to Rapidly Expand West Bank Settlement

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https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/11/world/middleeast/israel-west-bank-settlements.html?unlocked_article_code=1.rFA.F2oS.Cmfbw_H7g-vC&smid=url-share


"Israel’s government is expected to allocate hundreds of millions of dollars in the coming days to rapidly expand Jewish settlement across the occupied West Bank ahead of national elections this fall.

... Mr. Netanyahu’s government has long focused on expanding West Bank settlement with the stated goal of preventing the rise of a Palestinian state on the territory. Most of the world views the settlements as a violation of international law.

Israel argues that the West Bank land is disputed territory and its fate should be determined in negotiations. But there have been no Israeli-Palestinian negotiations for more than a decade and none are on the horizon. Many in the government want Israel to declare sovereignty over at least part of the West Bank.

... The expansion push follows a surge in settler violence in the West Bank in recent years. With the world largely distracted by wars in the Middle East, extremist settlers have intensified their attacks on Palestinians and their property across the West Bank in a violent campaign of intimidation that has emptied out entire Palestinian villages...'

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cliffside

(1,855 posts)
2. Who will stop them? - Netanyahu Says Israel Will Control 70 Percent of Gaza, Squeezing Hamas
Thu Jun 18, 2026, 12:22 AM
Jun 18

Millions of people displaced, nobody seems to care about them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/28/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-hamas-70-percent.html?unlocked_article_code=1.rFA.WVtH.uaY2uQv5Mr52&smid=url-share

"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel said Thursday that he had directed the Israeli military to expand its control of the Gaza Strip to 70 percent of the Palestinian enclave, ratcheting up the pressure on Hamas, the militant group that rules the rest..."



AloeVera

(4,640 posts)
3. The Two-State-solution mantra of Western leaders was a lie. A charade.
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 10:27 PM
Friday

I hope that is clearer now.

If it had been real, we would have seen real, authentic outrage, sanctions and red lines holding - and Gaza would not have been allowed to be destroyed and its people slaughtered mercilessly. There would not have been 50+ years of creeping settlement expansion in the West Bank with no real push-back or consequences.

But ordinary people the world over do care. Just not those in power and those in thrall to the idea of Israel but willfully blind or not caring about the reality of its apartheid, its history of ethnic cleansing and its brutality and expansionist aims since its founding.

I don't know how this harm to morality and humanity can be reversed. There is too much power and pressure from the MIC (aside from the billions made, defense contractors loved Gaza for the real-life testing of their shiny new weapons, reducing the people of Gaza to guinea-pigs), the Israeli lobby embedded in Western politics, the Donor Class, Big Oil, Big Corporations (making big bucks off occupation and war), so-called Christians, oh and throw in some racism, fear-mongering and decades of narrative control - the list goes on and on.

No end in sight to the suffering though, that's the only thing for sure.


cliffside

(1,855 posts)
4. Those nice words have been "an out" for too many politicians for way too long, but I do think times are changing ...
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 11:30 PM
Saturday

way too slow for the tens of thousands killed in Gaza. Think the number of displaced people in Iraq was 25% of the population, in Gaza it is 100%, not sure about Lebanon but it is a significant amount.

Speaking of the MIC there was a documentary years ago about how contracts were divided up among different states, you get x number of jobs/money etc, keep the people happy/voting for a particular person.

The internet is both a remedy and a curse, people are learning more about other nationalities/religions but are also becoming more ingrained to their limited beliefs, so a bit of a quandary.

Hopeful and also frustrated at the lack of humanity with some individuals and also some in power.



"If you smile at me, I will understand
'Cause that is something everybody everywhere does
In the same language"



electric_blue68

(27,900 posts)
5. "those in thrall to the idea of Israel"....
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 01:29 AM
Yesterday

Oh give me relief... 🙄
Israel has a right to exist. Jews have lived there for thousands of years just like Palestinians. It possible it could have created with less difficulties for the Palestinians.

As for 2 States. You don't know for sure. It's very possible that Rabin's assassination ruined the chances for a 2 State solution. And Netanyahu was with the RW groups who were protesting Rabin. He was part of the atmosphere that brought that about. My distain for him started there.

The war should have been more surgical operations, than the extreme devastation of Gaza.

As for the West Bank they should stop grabbing more of it. The violent settlers (a bunch having emigrated from the US) ruining Palestinians homes, and olive treess should have been jailed, or stopped instead of looked the other way. Been hearing about this years.

There still are small groups of Jewish Israelis, Arabs, and Palestinians trying to work togther for peace.

AloeVera

(4,640 posts)
6. It was difficult to get past this:
Thu Jun 25, 2026, 03:05 AM
22 hrs ago

"It possible it could have created with less difficulties for the Palestinians."

I don't know what to say to that. "Difficulties"?? Please read Ilan Pappe, Benny Morris, Rashid Khalidi. Lots more. It was a massacre, destruction and burning of villages and the ethnic cleansing of three-quarters of a million people who were then shot if they tried to return home. May none of us ever have such "difficulties".

As for the West Bank...they never should have been allowed to settle it in the first place. Did you know Palestinians are now squeezed into less than 10% of what was once Palestine? Israel has the rest. My point was that if the West had been serious about its commitment to a Palestinian state, it would have taken action to stop the settler encroachment. Actions speak louder than words and if they don't match its usually because they were just words.

I won't debate Israel's "right" to exist. It simply exists now. And it is not going anywhere. Of course Jews have a history there. They were about 5% of the population of Palestine before the Zionist movement took off well over a hundred years ago. I suppose if you think people have a "right" to come back after a few thousand years and kick out the current inhabitants aka natives, then maybe Palestinians will be granted the right of return too finally. On or about 4026 A.D. And that will be just fine with Israel no doubt. Give me relief too please.

In thrall to the IDEA of Israel as opposed to facing Israel as it actually is. Fact vs fiction, reality vs fantasy and myth.

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