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(48,977 posts)
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 11:21 PM Nov 2020

Two stories on 60 Minutes that got me thinking

The first, the lingering effects of Covid, they profiled a personal trainer, a marathon runner, healthy individuals.

And I was reminded that often young healthy people (men, mostly) die on the spot after a heart attack, One explanation has been that a strong young heart is struck more deadly than older one. So I was wondering whether the same could be for these healthy, active women who cannot shake the lingering effects of Covid.

Not sure how well I explain it. Vague to me, too.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-long-haulers-60-minutes-2020-11-22/

The last story was about "Project 90+" where researchers follow old people physically and mentally.

A lot about Alzheimer's and the amyloid clusters. Some who had dementia but their autopsied brains were clear of the clusters, others who did not appear to have dementia did.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/long-life-retirement-community-60-minutes-2020-11-22/

And, really, it made me mad. The presence of amyloid clusters was never proved to be the cause of Alzheimer's. At most there was a point of association, not causation. Not even that. As this report clearly (to me) demonstrated, there is no consistent connection between the amyloid plaques and Alzheimer's. Yet, pharmaceuticals have spent millions on study after study with agents that prevent the formation of amyloid plaques with nothing to show.

Or, if the treatment showed that it helped only, say, 10%, it stopped. Why, I have wondered. Why not look at these 10% as a subset and concentrate on this group. But, of course, this will mean no "blockbuster."

I have often thought that Alzheimer's is a symptom with several causes and pathophysiologal paths. And, indeed, one of the researchers hinted to this.

As an aside, who wants to live to 102 or 103? And what effect would this have on our society, on our economy?

(Well, I may change my mind when I am 99 years old..)

End of rant

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Two stories on 60 Minutes that got me thinking (Original Post) question everything Nov 2020 OP
Ask me in 26 years. Bob Munck Nov 2020 #1
i plan to live to be 100. mopinko Nov 2020 #2
some of those 90+ people NJCher Nov 2020 #3

mopinko

(71,911 posts)
2. i plan to live to be 100.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 11:37 PM
Nov 2020

i have my health challenges, but at 66, i'm pretty spry, and, honestly, function better than i did when i was younger. no kids to worry about. no hubs. no money worries. doin my own thing.
most of my family lived into their 80's and 90's.
my grandfather dropped dead in line for confession at 96.

and ya know, this is what i learned as a hospice volunteer- everybody thinks if they got a debilitating illness, say als or ms, or even stage 4 cancer, that they would check out.
but you know what? when you do get that news, only a tiny percentage of ppl actually do check out. most want every day they can get.

NJCher

(38,098 posts)
3. some of those 90+ people
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 12:25 AM
Nov 2020

amazed me. No way did they look that old.

What was the figure about the percentage of people who will live to be 100+? I think it was 40%. If that is true, it is certainly going to have to change Social Security.

It was interesting that the reporter asked the white-haired lady with the bob if it bothered her that she couldn't remember certain things and the woman responded that it did not. I have read there are studies that show that dementia does not lead to unhappiness or lower quality of life.

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