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appalachiablue

(42,984 posts)
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:49 PM May 2023

Disinfectant Wipes, Sprays w 'Quats' Chemicals Linked to Serious Health Problems: Use Soap & Water

Common disinfectant wipes expose people to dangerous chemicals, research reveals. The Guardian, May 11, 2023. Ed.

- Researchers say wipes contain chemical group called ‘quats’, which are linked to serious health problems.

Since the pandemic’s outset, the global use of disinfectants has gone through the roof. Clorox dramatically boosted production of its wipe packs to 1.5m a day by mid-2021, & an industry trade group said 83% of consumers surveyed around the same time reported they had used a disinfectant wipe in the last week. But as schools reopened, a group of toxic chemical researchers grew concerned as they heard reports of kids regularly using disinfectant wipes on their classroom desks, or teachers running disinfectant foggers. The researchers knew the disinfectants did little to protect consumers from Covid, & were instead exposing kids at alarming levels to what they say are a dangerous chemical group – quaternary ammonium compounds, also known as QACs, or “quats”.

Quats are common components in popular disinfectant wipes & sprays, especially those that claim to “kill 99.9% of germs”.

But in a new peer-reviewed paper, the researchers assembled the conclusions from a fast-growing body of quat studies that point to several main issues: the chemicals are linked to serious health problems, they contribute to antimicrobial resistance, they pollute the environment & they are not particularly effective. The chemicals “might not be efficacious, but also might be harmful”, said Courtney Carignan, a co-author on the paper & toxicologist at Michigan State Univ. “We did the review to answer the question of ‘What do we really know?’ & what was most surprising was there was a lack of health hazard data in the majority of QACs, & the few that have been studied have red flags,” she added. The paper – developed by a group of toxics researchers from academia, govt. agencies & non-governmental organizations – highlights quats’ risks & calls on regulators to eliminate the chemicals for non-essential uses.

QACs are a class of hundreds of chemicals also used in paints, pesticides, hand sanitizers, personal care products & more. Among other health issues, recent research has linked them to infertility, birth defects, metabolic disruption, asthma, skin disorders & other diseases.The main exposure is through disinfectants, & most Americans are thought to have some level of the chemicals in their blood. Recent research that checked the serum of more than 200 Indiana residents before & after the pandemic started found quat levels roughly doubled, & while about 83% had detectable levels before the pandemic, 97% did after. Humans can end up with quats in their bodies through several routes. The chemicals can be dermally absorbed or orally ingested after one touches a disinfectant wipe, or when they stick around on surfaces after the use of disinfectants. Inhalation is also a risk, especially with spray disinfectants, & the chemicals are also known to attach to dust & go airborne.

Among the groups most at risk are small children because the wipes are so frequently used in daycares or schools, elderly folks in supervised care, healthcare workers, cleaning professionals & others who frequently use disinfectants. The chemicals are persistent & thought to be bioaccumulative, meaning they accumulate in human bodies & the environment.. Disinfection with quats often has only a small benefit over plain soap & water when it comes to killing germs, research suggests, and neither is thought to be needed to stop the transmission of Covid, which happens through the air.. Soap & water is safest for general cleaning purposes, she added, and some resources offer alternatives to harsh cleaners.

Disinfectants should generally be reserved for when someone has the stomach flu or other illnesses for which disinfectants are effective, and even then they should “not be used in a cavalier way”...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/11/concern-over-increase-in-disinfectant-wipes-linked-to-health-problems

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Disinfectant Wipes, Sprays w 'Quats' Chemicals Linked to Serious Health Problems: Use Soap & Water (Original Post) appalachiablue May 2023 OP
Starbucks uses quat in the disinfectant sink. Mosby May 2023 #1
I believe it, hopefully they will cease using it. appalachiablue May 2023 #2
It's weird, because almost every restaurant uses bleach Mosby May 2023 #4
JFC! hippywife May 2023 #3
Yep. Of course after the pandemic they tell us. jimfields33 May 2023 #5
Check! appalachiablue May 2023 #7
It's everything - personal care products too - lotion, shampoo & more filled with chems! appalachiablue May 2023 #6
Yeah, I know. hippywife May 2023 #8
Not all chemicals are created equally Warpy May 2023 #10
Thanks for posting this! Desert grandma May 2023 #9

Mosby

(17,558 posts)
4. It's weird, because almost every restaurant uses bleach
Thu May 11, 2023, 01:06 PM
May 2023

So much easier, and the concentrations are really low, like pool water.

hippywife

(22,767 posts)
8. Yeah, I know.
Thu May 11, 2023, 01:29 PM
May 2023

But at this point in my life, for myself personally, I'm just gonna have to say fuck it. I'm too old and tired to keep dealing with this shit.

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
10. Not all chemicals are created equally
Thu May 11, 2023, 02:53 PM
May 2023

and the words on the label you need to be aware of are "disinfectant" and "antibacterial," the latter being especially silly because plain soap made with a fat and an alkali is antibacterial. However, those two labels signify things in the soap you might not want for everyday use.

Most people who are concerned about chemicals in soap are concerned about parabens, which are used as preservatives, especially important in high oil soaps. While a few people get contact dermatitis from them (it's rare), there are no data about long term exposure. That work is being done now. If you're concerned about those, search "paraben free soap/shampoo." Amazon alone has several pages of them.

These products also don't contain sodium laureth ether sulfate, a scary looking chemical detergent derived mostly from coconut oil. That one is in all large commercial brands of soap, shampoo, body wash, toothpaste, and many cosmetics. The research is in on that one, it is safe. There was a scandal a couple of decades ago about contamination with dioxane, a byproduct of its manufacture, but a level of 300ppm or less is considered safe.

My own bugaboo is fragrance, it breaks me out like crazy and "natural lavender" is one of the worst. I cling to Dr. Bronner's peppermint and fragrance free laundry soap. I can cope with the scary sounding chemicals, but nix on the hearts and flowers, thanks.

Desert grandma

(1,055 posts)
9. Thanks for posting this!
Thu May 11, 2023, 02:39 PM
May 2023

There are other safer disinfectant products to use. No more Clorox or Lysol wipes for me!

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