We've known microwaving food in PLASTICS is harmful

[Duppers]

More confirmation....

Plastics are bad for us and microwaving food in plastic containers is a "hell-no." Even if it says "microwave SAFE."

Microwaving 'Safe' Plastics Can Release Billions of Particles, Scientists Warn.

A team from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln in the US ran experiments using baby food containers made from polypropylene and polyethylene, which are both approved as safe to use by the regulators at the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

Microwaving water or dairy products inside polypropylene or polyethylene products is likely to deliver the highest relative concentrations of plastic, the researchers revealed. Particles were also released when food and drinks were refrigerated and stored at room temperature, but significantly fewer in number.
https://www.sciencealert.com/microwaving-safe-plastics-can-release-billions-of-particles-scientists-warn

I'm going to be more careful.

[Native]

1. Just think about all those plastic water bottles that so many people buy by the case!

That stuff has been in hot delivery trucks, hot storerooms, you name it.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

2. If microwaved, would be more concerning...water gets hot all the time!

[Native]

4. It's not just microwaving. Heating up the plastic is very bad.

They just don't run lots of tests on that because people know not to put plastic in the oven. But it will leach just as badly. The warmer the plastic gets, the more it is compromised and leaches chemicals. That's why they note in the article that just going from refrigeration to room temp releases particles, just not as much. And if you look up trucker reports, you'll see that it is hauled in hot trucks and stored in hot warehouses.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

6. Microwave scientific research I have read, not read any science articles on hot warehouses.

[magicarpet]

11. Drinking bottled water left in a hot car is not advisable.

Some researchers who study plastics recommend against drinking water from plastic bottles that have been sitting in hot places for a long time — such as a car sizzling in the sun — concerned that the heat could help chemicals from the plastic leach into the water.

https://www.today.com/health/bottled-water-hot-plastic-may-leach-chemicals-some-experts-say-t132687#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16937422574874&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.today.com%2Fhealth%2Fbottled-water-hot-plastic-may-leach-chemicals-some-experts-say-t132687

[Maraya1969]

16. When I see people with these bottles I try to tell them that they are putting plastics in their

bodies and in their family's bodies - especially dangerous for kids.

I try to make it personal.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

17. Wouldn't consume anything left sizzling in the sun...eggs maybe!

[Maraya1969]

18. When I see people with these bottles I try to tell them that they are putting plastics in their bod

and in their family's bodies - especially dangerous for kids.

I try to make it personal.

[Shermann]

3. The article may be gaslighting a bit using number of particles as the units

A "billion" plastic nanoparticles probably weigh around .00001 milligrams. If plastics demonstrate toxicity at those levels, we're all pretty much screwed anyway.

[Native]

5. They've now confirmed these particles pass the blood brain barrier.

It's everywhere, inside and outside of us.

[jimfields33]

8. Where were these studies in the 1970's?

That was the beginning of this mess starting in grocery stores that insist you use plastic bags over traditional brown bags. If you wanted to use paper, everyone in line would grown and be very upset you were destroying the environment. Amazing!

[Shermann]

10. In fairness, that's the scientific method at work

In the 1970s the available evidence supported that plastic over paper was better for the environment. Now there is more evidence available which requires moving to a different position.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

15. Haven't heard of any confirmation of that...

“The big question is what is happening in our body?” Vethaak said. “Are the particles retained in the body? Are they transported to certain organs, such as getting past the blood-brain barrier?” And are these levels sufficiently high to trigger disease? We urgently need to fund further research so we can find out.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/mar/24/microplastics-found-in-human-blood-for-first-time

March 2022

[Native]

19. That's one guy's comment. There have been quite a few articles and studies this year.

Google this stuff. You'll find them. The studies are pretty new. First it was plastic particles in breast milk, then they found it in our blood, then they found it in lungs and other organs, and most recently they confirmed it passed the blood-brain barrier. Think of it this way - they now know that there is no place on Earth where you can't find plastic. It's in the air, it's in the rain, it is on top of Mount Everest, it's at the bottom of the oceans. Why wouldn't it be in us?

[Alexander Of Assyria]

7. Yea. One research paper and then no scientific conclusion of harm..

…What's not clear right now is what these microscopic plastic particles are doing to us. Studies have shown they can potentially be harmful to the intestine and key biological processes, but it's an area scientists aren't sure about…

If it’s not clear no need to panic porn….not sure about…so neither am I.

What baby food product requires 3 minutes of heating in 1000w microwave for 3 minutes?? Baby steak?

P.s. to poster…it’s never personal, it’s a conflict with logic from the assembled and presented in a single article facts that bothers.

[Scrivener7]

12. Lol! Enjoy those plastic particles.

The rest of us will be over here avoiding heating food in plastic.

[Native]

20. True, they've only recently confirmed plastic is now in our bodies, and they have

yet to determine what it's doing to us. That said, it's pretty clear that plastic particles in our lungs is not beneficial. And as the use of plastic water bottles has risen so has colon cancer in younger people. Now that they know it's in our bodies, it's only a matter of time before they are able to determine how harmful it is.

[Shermann]

21. Correlation does not imply causation

One thing I will say is that the burden of proof is on the plastics industry to prove that these substances are safe in the environment in large quantities, not on others to prove they are unsafe.

This is similar to climate change. Why do environmental groups have to be the ones to build all these complicated Earth System Models while the deniers do nothing but just throw rocks? Let them build the models so we can throw rocks.

[Native]

22. Rely on the plastics industry to prove they are safe? IJBOL

We relied on the tobacco industry, and look where that got us. As to correlation versus causation, you are missing my point. I'm saying the scientific community has just now woken up to the dangers of plastic with regard to the human body. It's so early in the game that correlation and disease are all we have to go with right now. For your reading pleasure:

LUNGS: https://www.npr.org/2022/04/06/1091246691/microplastics-found-in-human-lungs
BLOOD BRAIN BARRIER:
https://www.technologynetworks.com/applied-sciences/news/bloodbrain-barrier-breached-by-microplastics-372463#:~:text=And%20now%20for%20the%20first,protect%20humans%20and%20the%20environment.
BREAST MILK:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/07/microplastics-human-breast-milk-first-time
HEART TISSUE AND BLOOD:
https://www.acs.org/pressroom/presspacs/2023/august/microplastics-found-in-human-heart-tissues-before-and-after-surgical-procedures.html#:~:text=A%20pilot%20study%20found%20microplastics,people%20who%20underwent%20cardiac%20surgery.&text=Everywhere%20scientists%20look%20for%20microplastics,parts%20of%20the%20human%20body.
LIVER:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ebiom/article/PIIS2352-3964(22)00328-0/fulltext

I'll let you play with Googling other organs.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

23. Lobbyists paid billions will buy politicians, no liability or responsibility...cheaper than doing the

right thing…the marketplace only wants short term profit. Long term is…not their thing.

Full stop.

[gab13by13]

9. Buy in glass,

70% of a bottle comes from a recycled bottle. Plastic is just more convenient.

Disclaimer: former glass worker. Only the Best Comes In Glass.

[Scrivener7]

13. I try, but it's really hard. Everything is in plastic.

[Blue Owl]

14. Let's make sure DeSantis knows that not microwaving plastic pudding cups is woke