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appalachiablue

(42,984 posts)
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 01:58 PM Sep 2023

Drugstore Downsizing: CVS, Walgreens, Rite Aid To Close Nearly 1,500 Stores

- Forbes, Sept. 27, 2023.

The nation’s largest drugstore chains are facing mounting pressure, and they’ve prescribed the same script to cure their ills: closing stores.

Already drowning in $3.3 billion in debt and facing pending opioid-related lawsuit settlements, Rite AidRAD -3.6%, the nation’s third-ranked pharmacy chain behind CVS and Walgreens, is preparing for bankruptcy.

As part of ongoing negotiations, it proposes to close 400 to 500 of its 2,100 stores, though its bondholders want even more to shutter. Its retail pharmacy segment generated $17.8 billion last year and $288 million in adjusted EBITDA. Earlier this year, number two CVS completed a strategic review and announced plans to shutter 900 stores between 2022 and 2024. It’s already pulled the plug on 300 of them.

GlobalData analyst Neil Saunders shared with CNN that too many of its stores have fallen into disrepair, with “bad lighting, depressing interiors, messy merchandising and a weak assortment of products. They are not destinations or places where people go out of anything other than necessity."...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/pamdanziger/2023/09/27/drugstore-downsizing-cvs-walgreens-and-rite-aid-to-close-nearly-1500-stores/

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Drugstore Downsizing: CVS, Walgreens, Rite Aid To Close Nearly 1,500 Stores (Original Post) appalachiablue Sep 2023 OP
They got away from being pharmacies bucolic_frolic Sep 2023 #1
In this process I hope the word gets out esp for people who don't appalachiablue Sep 2023 #2
So is mine Rebl2 Sep 2023 #12
Glad to hear that about your CVS, but the indy store, a bad scene, wow. So here's appalachiablue Sep 2023 #15
In our exurban "small town"... regnaD kciN Sep 2023 #3
IK, I'll check if one local indy RX is still open, yrs since I've been there. This is a huge no. appalachiablue Sep 2023 #5
Really? I have 3 CVS stores within a five mile radius, mercuryblues Sep 2023 #4
Yeah, it's crazy. In my area the stores aren't run down dumps. I think this appalachiablue Sep 2023 #6
👍 Joinfortmill Sep 2023 #7
Remember how Rebl2 Sep 2023 #14
Pharmacy Wars, and now many will disappearing. I still miss bookstores and more. appalachiablue Sep 2023 #16
I never Rebl2 Sep 2023 #18
Maybe 10 years ago Freddie Sep 2023 #8
Good pts, a lot of issues and what timing during a pandemic..I have an appalachiablue Sep 2023 #9
I think they might be hurting themselves with pricing. Mosby Sep 2023 #10
Yeah, Elessar Zappa Sep 2023 #11
I understand that sure, being cost conscious is impt. for many people esp in these times. appalachiablue Sep 2023 #17
CVS, Millburn, N.J., is a depressing place. 3Hotdogs Sep 2023 #13

bucolic_frolic

(47,313 posts)
1. They got away from being pharmacies
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 02:05 PM
Sep 2023

and tried to sell food like a convenience store, toys like Walmart, and general merchandise that wasn't popular. My local CVS has mid 1980s design with carpeting, wide shelves, and junk.

Looks like small town independent but affiliated pharmacies will be the place to find traditional product lines.

appalachiablue

(42,984 posts)
2. In this process I hope the word gets out esp for people who don't
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 02:09 PM
Sep 2023

have an independent pharmacy nearby/convenient to use. My CVS is very good, sorry if it goes.

Rebl2

(14,870 posts)
12. So is mine
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 04:54 PM
Sep 2023

They are nicer to me than the independent drugstore I used to go to-in fact they eventually closed. There were only three people that worked there and they were all right wingers. Quit them and went to CVS that was a little closer. Oddly in my town of 30,000 there are two CVS. I hope mine does not close because they are so kind to me and my husband.

appalachiablue

(42,984 posts)
15. Glad to hear that about your CVS, but the indy store, a bad scene, wow. So here's
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 05:53 PM
Sep 2023

to CVS retaining some stores. In fact, I may ask my CVS store mgr. what's up and let them know how our experiences have been very good and we really value them in the community. Who knows.

I read similar closure news about major BANKS recently, how many branches were expected to shut down in the coming months, Wells Fargo, BOA, etc. When I inquired at my main location, the manager said they would very likely remain open. Yay!

He said we could add our feedback to the survey in the email sent for that day's transaction. Good to know, and here's hoping.

regnaD kciN

(26,615 posts)
3. In our exurban "small town"...
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 02:17 PM
Sep 2023

…every “independent” pharmacy has been swallowed up by one of the “big three.” That’s also true for every community I know around here.

appalachiablue

(42,984 posts)
5. IK, I'll check if one local indy RX is still open, yrs since I've been there. This is a huge no.
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 02:32 PM
Sep 2023

of closures in a short period of time, by 2024. People will need to start looking for alternatves, or else wait and scramble.

There are people, esp older, and low income who aren't familiar with or able to order and pay online.

And will this deter people from getting preventive shots and more - Flu, Covid, RSV, Shingles.

appalachiablue

(42,984 posts)
6. Yeah, it's crazy. In my area the stores aren't run down dumps. I think this
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 02:44 PM
Sep 2023

massive change is related to chains going 'online retail.' It'll be interesting, a struggle for many who don't use the internet for purchasing and lack an independent pharmacy in their area.

How do you get a flu shot or vax online? Not so funny...

Rebl2

(14,870 posts)
14. Remember how
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 05:01 PM
Sep 2023

Walgreens used to try and build close to CVS’s. They built close to one in my town but it didn’t hurt CVS. The other CVS in my town there was nowhere for a Walgreens to build close by. That is the one I go to-less than five minutes away.

Rebl2

(14,870 posts)
18. I never
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 07:53 PM
Sep 2023

had any independent book stores near me only stores like Walden books (years ago), Barnes and Noble and another I can’t think of right now. They are long gone now. If I want to go to Barnes and Noble I have to drive half hour away and the traffic to get there not worth it.

Freddie

(9,725 posts)
8. Maybe 10 years ago
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 03:02 PM
Sep 2023

A car dealership at a busy intersection was torn down and replaced by a huge Rite-Aid, while they closed the one downtown that people could walk to. Now the “new” Rite-Aid is closing, leaving us with an ugly empty building.
Seems the trend in pharmacies is to locate within existing businesses, like Target, Walmart or supermarkets. Also I wonder how much business they’re losing to convenient mail-order prescriptions for ongoing issues.

appalachiablue

(42,984 posts)
9. Good pts, a lot of issues and what timing during a pandemic..I have an
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 03:09 PM
Sep 2023

aversion to big box stores, not my thing. Walmart for pharmacy stuff, same.

Mosby

(17,558 posts)
10. I think they might be hurting themselves with pricing.
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 04:21 PM
Sep 2023

CVS, walgreens have ridiculously high OTC/HABA prices and they don't seem to care, they know that some people don't pay attention to prices and others can't get around enough to shop at Target or Walmart. I'm not talking about a few cents, a small bottle of ibuprofen will be dollars higher at walgreens vs Target.

Elessar Zappa

(16,037 posts)
11. Yeah,
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 04:49 PM
Sep 2023

the generic CVS stuff will be much higher priced than name-brand equivalents at Walmart. They need to lower their prices.

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