The Feast (Gwledd) available on Hulu

[geardaddy]

https://ffilmcymruwales.com/our-work/gwledd-feast

When a wealthy family and their guests gather for a dinner party in the remote Welsh countryside, they have little idea of what awaits them. Hosted at their luxurious new house, the family have a valuable mining venture at stake and the atmosphere is tense. The arrival of a mysterious young woman who has been hired as a waitress brings a quiet, unsettling presence to the evening. And as the night progresses, she soon begins to challenge the family’s beliefs, unravelling the illusion they’ve created with slow, deliberate, and terrifying consequences…

I'm excited to see this film, as there are very few films in Welsh available outside of Wales!

[Ocelot II]

1. I've watched a few tv shows in Welsh; it sounds like Klingon.

Try Icelandic films sometime; that language sounds like a Norwegian trying to speak Klingon. The scenery of both countries is spectacular.

[geardaddy]

3. It's a lot less guttural than Klingon

But I'm biased.

Interestingly, Icelandic and Welsh share a similar sound that is rare in European languages - the double L sound in Welsh, or the Voiceless alveolar lateral fricative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_dental_and_alveolar_lateral_fricatives

[Ocelot II]

7. In Icelandic the double L is pronounced like tl; in Welsh it's more of a hissy sound.

But maybe the similarity arose as a result of Icelandic Vikings kidnapping Celtic slaves during the 10th-11th centuries - otherwise the languages are not very related aside from sounding like Klingon.

[geardaddy]

8. Yep, the Welsh sound is formed

by placing your tongue like you're going to say L, but blowing, instead. I once had a Welsh friend who joked about the percentage of people who blew on the right side, the left side, or both sides of their tongue.

Right, I know that they're not related. Welsh is a Celtic language and Icelandic is a Germanic language. And as far as I'm concerned, I don't think they sound a bit like Klingon.

I understand and speak Welsh. I don't understand and speak Klingon.

And don't start about how Welsh has no vowels. It has more vowels than English does.

[Ocelot II]

10. I understand and speak Norwegian, though not really fluently, and I can pick up some related words

in Icelandic (which hasn't changed much in a thousand years), but when I watch shows in Welsh I can't pick up any words at all, so I have to watch the subtitles every minute so I can't multitask at all or I lose the story.

What's cool about the Icelandic language is that it has a couple of letters nobody else except the Faroese uses any more: Þ, þ (thorn) and Ð, ð (eth). I know Welsh actually has vowels; the words when written just don't look like they have vowels.

[geardaddy]

11. Welsh doesn't have the thorn and eth

but does have digraphs that have those sounds - Th - voiceless th as in "thin" and Dd - voiced th as in "this"

You might actually pick up some words in Welsh, since there are some English borrowings, they're just pronounced in a very Welsh way.

And a lot of first language Welsh speakers often switch to English briefly, since they are truly bilingual.

Actually "car" is one of the words that the English borrowed. It is actually a Celtic word and we also see it's influence in "cart."

If you're listening for it, it will be pronounced with a heavily rolled R at the end.

[intrepidity]

2. Yes!

Also a fan of Welsh shows.

We need a thread in this group for lists of Welsh shows.

Maybe this will be it?

[geardaddy]

4. Yes, that would be great!

I actually watch some Welsh show via S4C, the Welsh-language TV station of the BBC. You can watch some of them without the need to mirror a UK ISP.

https://www.s4c.cymru/clic/

[intrepidity]

5. Oh!

but I can vpn...

[geardaddy]

6. Good!

I had a VPN a while ago, but have since just used the Clic page for S4C and view the internationally available stuff. There's loads in there to watch!

[geardaddy]

9. Well then there will be more available to you!